Can someone break down how telemFFB talks to the VPforce motors? Is it possible to have telemFFB gen

Can someone break down how telemFFB talks to the VPforce motors? Is it possible to have telemFFB generate FFB effects based on game telemetry and send them to a DirextX FFB device such as the Open FFboard?

Vvoidkitty Can someone break down how telemFFB talks to the VPforce motors? Is it possible ...

Col. Sanders•4/20/24, 2:57 AM

voidkittyOP•4/20/24, 3:06 AM

I suppose that information is classified

is there a chance that telemFFB will support other motor-drivers in the future?

Vvoidkitty I suppose that information is classified 🤐 is there a chance that telemFFB will...

Number481•4/20/24, 3:31 AM

Its open source, no secrets. This is the custom driver here: https://github.com/walmis/VPforce-TelemFFB/blob/wip/ffb_rhino.py

From that file...

"""
This File implements USB HID direct access to FFB system on the VPforce Rhino using hidapi
This bypasses directinput and other layers which allows to augment directInput 
with additional FFB effects.

"""
This File implements USB HID direct access to FFB system on the VPforce Rhino using hidapi
This bypasses directinput and other layers which allows to augment directInput 
with additional FFB effects.

Carmel•4/20/24, 2:27 PM

Carmel•4/20/24, 2:27 PM

Arrived in Brasil!

Stryker990•4/20/24, 8:55 PM

dumb question will the rhino turn itself off or go into a low power mode if it gets too hot?

Stryker990•4/20/24, 8:55 PM

and 2. question what is a temp thats to hot for it?

SStryker990 dumb question will the rhino turn itself off or go into a low power mode if it g...

Fierce_Fire•4/20/24, 9:05 PM

im sure it has overcurrent protection for certain and i heard it does do one of those things, forgot which

Fierce_Fire•4/20/24, 9:05 PM

i think max temp is somewhere between 60 and 80c but not sure

Bob Bushman•4/20/24, 9:33 PM

The motors should be able to handle 100 degrees celcius, granted not finding specific winding temperatures for this model, but the magnets hold til about 110-120 degrees. you should have to work the motors pretty hard to get there, and they shouldn't de magnetize at those temps either, just go weak until they cool down so even if it goes there you shouldn't cause permanent damage.

AndyHill•4/20/24, 10:49 PM

the rhino will reduce the forces gradually until it can cope with the heat load

WhereNoLarkFlew•4/21/24, 6:59 PM

If you’re running the Rhino at lower force settings, will it overheat often?

HazardRisk•4/21/24, 7:08 PM

just wanna personally thank @walmis and @Subsonic (Protomaker) for this amazing Project, you made many simmers -including me- happy!

AndyHill•4/21/24, 7:18 PM

if you go low enough it won't overheat pretty much ever

Fr4Ged•4/21/24, 8:08 PM

mine never went above 35°C yet. lol

HHazardRisk just wanna personally thank @walmis and @Subsonic (Protomaker) for this amazing ...

Subsonic•4/21/24, 8:11 PM

All the credit goes to @walmis
It is his genius invention, I just put together the instructions for how to built one.
We all love this hobby. Happy to help smooth the process for all the DIY folks.

WWhereNoLarkFlew If you’re running the Rhino at lower force settings, will it overheat often?

MashedPotato•4/21/24, 8:34 PM

I've run mine reasonably high for going on a year now, and I haven't even heard the fan turn on, let alone have any overheat issues

Piola•4/21/24, 9:23 PM

Hey guys, I pre-ordered the Rhino and from what I understand, when the time comes to purchase I will be able to add the various optional components that I haven't selected yet, is that correct?

Fierce_Fire•4/21/24, 9:30 PM

Yes

Fierce_Fire•4/21/24, 9:30 PM

Stuff like adapters should come then

Piola•4/21/24, 9:39 PM

Thank you !

Zarro•4/21/24, 11:09 PM

Looking at this again, the desire to start building one of these myself is growing once again. I‘m sure I will today, once again dream of flying the apache with proper force trim.

VPforceBot•4/22/24, 7:17 AM

:package:

RHINO #0498 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•4/22/24, 7:42 AM

:package:

RHINO #0499 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•4/22/24, 9:48 AM

:package:

RHINO #0500 Has Shipped!

PiNKSH!T•4/22/24, 11:01 AM

Hey what's the price on the pre order for the mfg ffb kit?

Fr4Ged•4/22/24, 11:08 AM

Damn! 500 units!

that is quite the milestone! happy anniversary @walmis !

PiNKSH!T•4/22/24, 11:24 AM

⃣ 0

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PiNKSH!T•4/22/24, 11:28 AM

Congratulations @walmis SN#.500 that's a really awesome achievement. I hope to be here to celebrate SN#.500,000 & beyond!

PPiNKSH!T Hey what's the price on the pre order for the mfg ffb kit?

GarrafaBr•4/22/24, 11:33 AM

Hi there, there are 2 kits: 399 and 150. Check this form with the information about them: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScJy9f571afga-yYYOE5eqiEacWpqE3UigkC1hfQy6szQnN3g/viewform

Google Docs

VPforce MFG FFB Kit Preorder

Enter your details here, so you can enter the queue for the VPforce MFG FFB Kit.
Once the queue progresses I will get in touch with further details.

The kit contains:
86BLF03 or 86BLF04 FFB motor
Large gear + 14T motor pulley
Belt HTD5M 400
Motor mount + fasteners
Assembled wiring
Toe brake connectors to VPforce board
Power supply - 19V 9.5A 18...

GGarrafaBr Hi there, there are 2 kits: 399 and 150. Check this form with the information ab...

PiNKSH!T•4/22/24, 11:34 AM

oh thanks m8, where was that in the faq?

PPiNKSH!T oh thanks m8, where was that in the faq?

GarrafaBr•4/22/24, 11:54 AM

I didn't see it in the faq, only published here in General by Walmis.

GGarrafaBr I didn't see it in the faq, only published here in General by Walmis.

PiNKSH!T•4/22/24, 11:55 AM

ahh cool, is it pinned? might be handy

PPiNKSH!T ahh cool, is it pinned? might be handy

GarrafaBr•4/22/24, 12:12 PM

True, I looked in the Pins but also couldn't find it there.

Asger•4/22/24, 2:24 PM

So beautiful!!!

PPiNKSH!T 🦏 #️⃣ 5️⃣ 0️⃣ 0️⃣ 🎆 🎇 🎆 🎇 🥳 🍻

Booker•4/22/24, 2:33 PM

I'm happy to say I got #500!!!

I asked Walmis to sign it...

Bob Bushman•4/22/24, 2:58 PM

Will have to mount it in a display case, and order another one then

BBob Bushman Will have to mount it in a display case, and order another one then

HornetDRIVER•4/22/24, 3:03 PM

HHornetDRIVER Click to see attachment

Bob Bushman•4/22/24, 3:04 PM

and he immediately stashes it in a warehouse to never be seen again

Stryker990•4/22/24, 4:30 PM

Inb4 its slips out of his hands the moment he gets his hands on it and it just shatters into a million pieces :gigakekw:

j9murphy•4/22/24, 5:13 PM

is there any problem/conflict in using the vpforce ffb stick with motion platforms (sending telemetry to more than one place at a time in DCS/xplane/msfs)?

Fierce_Fire•4/22/24, 5:14 PM

ive seen a few ppl use it with motion rig so id assume no

Jj9murphy is there any problem/conflict in using the vpforce ffb stick with motion platfor...

smitty•4/22/24, 6:43 PM

works fine in msfs. telemetry goes to vpforce, flypt, simhaptic, SPAD, littlenavmap, and probably a few others i cant remember, without issue

Booker•4/22/24, 7:34 PM

BBooker Empty message

HazardRisk•4/22/24, 8:15 PM

preference

III_Nick_III•4/22/24, 8:45 PM

What sort of wait-times are we at-at the moment?

III_Nick_III•4/22/24, 8:45 PM

as in, if I ordered now would I get it before the end of 2024?

Fr4Ged•4/22/24, 8:49 PM

I have waited basically exactly 6 months so end of 2024 might be possible

III_Nick_III•4/22/24, 8:49 PM

alright that's an insane wait time

III_Nick_III•4/22/24, 8:49 PM

still tempted

""" This File implements USB HID direct access to FFB system on the VPforce Rhino using hidapi This bypasses directinput and other layers which allows to augment directInput with additional FFB effects.

Can someone break down how telemFFB talks to the VPforce motors? Is it possible to have telemFFB gen

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