there's things we could be doing but don't have time/cycles for that would be really useful for them

there's things we could be doing but don't have time/cycles for that would be really useful for them upstream - I'm thinking things like powerwash, etc. and the thing bsherman fixed, that kind of stuff

j0rgeOP•4/20/24, 12:01 AM

lots of the the things that are useful, like local layering etc. bring along a ton of tech debt, all the rpm stuff, etc. Moving to a pure bootc thing will take time, but I'm keen on helping push this more by leveraging systexts and brew so that users don't need to rely on local layering.

j0rgeOP•4/20/24, 12:04 AM

other than that, the same things as discussions with others, silverblue/kinoite needs more help upstream, lack of resources and developers all around for everyone

j0rgeOP•4/20/24, 12:06 AM

he wasn't aware about all the stuff ucore is doing, so I put it on his radar.

j0rgeOP•4/20/24, 12:07 AM

also found out that I'm copresenting with him at rh summit, so we're going to meet a few more times and get some slides going

RRobert Tomorrow I'll pick on you to help generate an array of images built by the reusa...

bsherman•4/20/24, 12:17 AM

just put it in the SBOM thread and we can discuss

j0rgeOP•4/20/24, 12:17 AM

ooh can someone tldr me on the sbom stuff?

j0rgeOP•4/20/24, 12:17 AM

j0rgeOP•4/20/24, 12:17 AM

lol THREE YEARS AGO

Dylan•4/20/24, 12:18 AM

Bazzite should probably add plasma-workspace-x11 to kde images until the nvidia issues are fixed.

Dylan•4/20/24, 12:19 AM

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of wayland and want it to succeed. But the issues are still numerous on Nvidia hardware

DDylan Bazzite should probably add plasma-workspace-x11 to kde images until the nvidi...

bsherman•4/20/24, 12:19 AM

you have an opinion that...

Dylan•4/20/24, 12:19 AM

DDylan Bazzite should probably add plasma-workspace-x11 to kde images until the nvidi...

Kyle Gospo•4/20/24, 12:20 AM

Is this still an issue with the flicker patches in place?

Kyle Gospo•4/20/24, 12:20 AM

actually hold on, can't answer that

Kyle Gospo•4/20/24, 12:20 AM

they're coming with KDE 6.1

Kyle Gospo•4/20/24, 12:20 AM

which is in testing for F40 right now

Kyle Gospo•4/20/24, 12:20 AM

I will only add that package if the flickering still occurs on 6.1

Kyle Gospo•4/20/24, 12:20 AM

if it does not, I'd rather let the 1980s remain in the 1980s

Dylan•4/20/24, 12:22 AM

I have issues with steam flickering like crazy and discord as well, displaying the characters I type out of order

bsherman•4/20/24, 12:23 AM

need an approval here: https://github.com/ublue-os/akmods/pull/179

GitHub

chore(deps): bump Wandalen/wretry.action from 2.1.0 to 3.4.0 by dep...

Bumps Wandalen/wretry.action from 2.1.0 to 3.4.0.

Commits

0dd1d5d version 3.4.0
8e449ec Merge pull request #156 from dmvict/master
050710d Update action files, add option steps_context, update fi...

Dylan•4/20/24, 12:23 AM

I really want X11 to die and Wayland to be successful, I just have issues on Wayland on my desktop still

j0rgeOP•4/20/24, 12:23 AM

with 40 and nvk?

Dylan•4/20/24, 12:24 AM

Not nvk

Dylan•4/20/24, 12:24 AM

Nvidia proprietary driver

Dylan•4/20/24, 12:24 AM

I tried to switch to nvk once and my system didn't boot

Dylan•4/20/24, 12:25 AM

The discord issue completely disappears in X11.
● ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-nvidia:testing
Digest: sha256:7abdc682980cd850a6dd6653ad4cae3daf85cf4dd350e4d98e509db7748563e5

Version: 40.20240419.0 (2024-04-19T23:01:15Z)
LayeredPackages: plasma-workspace-x11

Bbsherman need an approval here: https://github.com/ublue-os/akmods/pull/179

bsherman•4/20/24, 12:25 AM

@j0rge you merge these instead of using merge queue?

j0rgeOP•4/20/24, 12:25 AM

@bsherman the minder thing from stacklok will let us do sha pins and upgrades instead of version numbers

Bbsherman @j0rge you merge these instead of using merge queue?

j0rgeOP•4/20/24, 12:25 AM

queue doesn't work right with dependabot

Jj0rge @bsherman the minder thing from stacklok will let us do sha pins and upgrades in...

bsherman•4/20/24, 12:25 AM

will be interesting to start working with that

Dylan•4/20/24, 12:26 AM

Don't get me wrong, I'm on team Wayland here, and want to switch to it 100%. It works amazing on my laptop with hybrid graphics, and on my steam deck, and on my other laptop with Intel graphics...

Dylan•4/20/24, 12:26 AM

Nvidia when you don't have hybrid graphics is frankly awful right now

j0rgeOP•4/20/24, 12:26 AM

did you layer what you needed?

Dylan•4/20/24, 12:26 AM

I layered the X11 package to see if that fixes my issues, and it does

Dylan•4/20/24, 12:27 AM

My suggestion is to layer plasma-workspace-x11 by default in the bazzite nvidia images

Dylan•4/20/24, 12:27 AM

Because the experience right now is regrettably so much better

j0rgeOP•4/20/24, 12:28 AM

if the layer works for you then that seems like a fine workaround?

Dylan•4/20/24, 12:30 AM

For me, sure.

bsherman•4/20/24, 12:30 AM

I'd like to see bazzite specific requests (and likewise aurora/bluefin specific ones) sent to their respective discord channels... there seems to be a decent number of help question asked here... and I know this is more of a feature suggestion than "help" but I tend to see them as the same given the specific target image.

@j0rge if we don't intend the current channels to support the respective dev chatter, we could add some> just my thoughts...

Dylan•4/20/24, 12:32 AM

Maybe do bazzite-dev

Dylan•4/20/24, 12:32 AM

bluefin-dev

j0rgeOP•4/20/24, 12:32 AM

sgtm

Dylan•4/20/24, 12:32 AM

etc

j0rgeOP•4/20/24, 12:32 AM

I'm not doing bluefin dev, I'm fine with the content in there like it is.

Dylan•4/20/24, 12:33 AM

fair enough

DDylan My suggestion is to layer plasma-workspace-x11 by default in the bazzite nvidia ...

bsherman•4/20/24, 12:33 AM

so see my general comment above... it does relate to your suggestion, but there are many suggestions in this channel i would see similarly.

this suggestion specifically though, it's not up to me or jorge, etc... it's pretty much up to Kyle and those he works with to make those decisions

j0rgeOP•4/20/24, 12:33 AM

but bazzite-dev seems necessary since that will be the majority of the users here pretty soon so we should split that before release

Jj0rge but bazzite-dev seems necessary since that will be the majority of the users her...

bsherman•4/20/24, 12:33 AM

seems reasonable

j0rgeOP•4/20/24, 12:34 AM

but IMO posting a thread in the forum with the workaround seems fine

j0rgeOP•4/20/24, 12:34 AM

It's not our fault a company with a 2 trillion dollar valuation can't get it together.

there's things we could be doing but don't have time/cycles for that would be really useful for them

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