✅ How to work with Python A.I.'s

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Angius•4/23/24, 1:47 AM

It will be much easier to keep everything in the same language tbh

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Angius•4/23/24, 1:47 AM

So I'd recommend you write the UI in Python as well. Tkinkter or whatever other Python UI library

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MekOP•4/23/24, 1:53 AM

oh ok. that makes sense

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The Fog from Human Resources•4/23/24, 1:53 AM

You could try to setup your python Ai handler as a FLASK app and then make api to it from your GUI
However, if you plan on shipping this to anyone prepare for a ton of issues cause python never "just runs" on a client machine

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MekOP•4/23/24, 1:59 AM

no no no shipping lol it's being made specifically to me. The end goal is to have a UI that I can put what I want into a text box with specific keywords in my statement so like

create a new avalonia desktop application named MyApp using the CommunityToolkit.Mvvm package instead of the Avalonia.ReactiveUI package and use the file structure for a multi-app editor setup

create a new avalonia desktop application named MyApp using the CommunityToolkit.Mvvm package instead of the Avalonia.ReactiveUI package and use the file structure for a multi-app editor setup

create a new avalonia desktop application named MyApp using the CommunityToolkit.Mvvm package instead of the Avalonia.ReactiveUI package and use the file structure for a multi-app editor setup

create a new avalonia desktop application named MyApp using the CommunityToolkit.Mvvm package instead of the Avalonia.ReactiveUI package and use the file structure for a multi-app editor setup

create a new avalonia desktop application

dotnet new avalonia.mvvm -n MyApp -o MyApp

dotnet new avalonia.mvvm -n MyApp -o MyApp

dotnet new avalonia.mvvm -n MyApp -o MyApp

dotnet new avalonia.mvvm -n MyApp -o MyApp

using the CommunityToolkit.Mvvm package instead of the Avalonia.ReactiveUI package

after everything else is done

cd MyApp && dotnet remove package Avalonia.ReactiveUI && dotnet add package CommunityToolkit.Mvvm

cd MyApp && dotnet remove package Avalonia.ReactiveUI && dotnet add package CommunityToolkit.Mvvm

cd MyApp && dotnet remove package Avalonia.ReactiveUI && dotnet add package CommunityToolkit.Mvvm

cd MyApp && dotnet remove package Avalonia.ReactiveUI && dotnet add package CommunityToolkit.Mvvm

and use the file structure for a multi-app editor setup

this is where it would build the file structure that another user here gave me. Name escapes me

Cross-Platform App File Structure

.
├── MyProj.sln
├── .gitignore
├── .editorconfig
└── src/
    ├── MyProj.Common/
    │   ├── MyProj.Common.csproj
    │   └── Models/
    │       └── Stuff.cs
    ├── MyProj.Desktop/
    │   ├── MyProj.Desktop.csproj
    │   └── Program.cs
    └── MyProj.Infrastructure/
        ├── MyProj.Infrastructure.csproj
        └── Database.cs

Cross-Platform App File Structure

.
├── MyProj.sln
├── .gitignore
├── .editorconfig
└── src/
    ├── MyProj.Common/
    │   ├── MyProj.Common.csproj
    │   └── Models/
    │       └── Stuff.cs
    ├── MyProj.Desktop/
    │   ├── MyProj.Desktop.csproj
    │   └── Program.cs
    └── MyProj.Infrastructure/
        ├── MyProj.Infrastructure.csproj
        └── Database.cs

Cross-Platform App File Structure

.
├── MyProj.sln
├── .gitignore
├── .editorconfig
└── src/
    ├── MyProj.Common/
    │   ├── MyProj.Common.csproj
    │   └── Models/
    │       └── Stuff.cs
    ├── MyProj.Desktop/
    │   ├── MyProj.Desktop.csproj
    │   └── Program.cs
    └── MyProj.Infrastructure/
        ├── MyProj.Infrastructure.csproj
        └── Database.cs

Cross-Platform App File Structure

.
├── MyProj.sln
├── .gitignore
├── .editorconfig
└── src/
    ├── MyProj.Common/
    │   ├── MyProj.Common.csproj
    │   └── Models/
    │       └── Stuff.cs
    ├── MyProj.Desktop/
    │   ├── MyProj.Desktop.csproj
    │   └── Program.cs
    └── MyProj.Infrastructure/
        ├── MyProj.Infrastructure.csproj
        └── Database.cs

and then it would cd into the Desktop application project under

./src

./src

./src

./src and add/remove the packages. I'll likely set it up too to prompt me if there are anymore packages with hints like databases and api's so that I don't forget them

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The Fog from Human Resources•4/23/24, 2:01 AM

If you really do want to go with 2 seperate languages I'd recommend the REST approach as it's the simplest to connect things that aren't directly related

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MekOP•4/23/24, 2:16 AM

as in java script? that would be a nice approach for the mobile app version of this little guy. the desktop version, I'm going to use the same language to build the AI. I just don't know how I'm going to get a flat line across the ui page and then make that line dance around all erratic when the ai speaks a respnose lol

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MekOP•4/23/24, 2:16 AM

which to be fair, I don't know how to do that in any language

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Angius•4/23/24, 2:22 AM

Why Javascript?

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MekOP•4/23/24, 2:25 AM

that was the language that came to mind

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Lex Li•4/23/24, 2:47 AM

There are quite a few mistakes showing in your statements. 1) Mixing multiple languages won't give you any real benefits, as you won't be able to master all of them quickly. 2) What's the AI you referred to? AI models like GPT have so many wrappers, so you can easily use a wrapper for .NET, such as Semantic Kernel from Microsoft. 3) Avalonia UI can take you anywhere, desktop, mobile and web, so focus on one thing like desktop first, and stop bothering yourself with mobile/web at this stage.

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Jimmacle•4/23/24, 5:03 AM

also, expecting a LLM to give you any serious code is a mistake to begin with

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Jimmacle•4/23/24, 5:04 AM

it would be faster to follow your instructions as you wrote them here than try and goad a LLM into producing the same output

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Jimmacle•4/23/24, 5:05 AM

"multi-app editor setup" is ambiguous even for a human person, i certainly wouldn't know exactly what you meant by that without an example

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Jimmacle•4/23/24, 5:07 AM

the most use i get out of LLMs in terms of codegen is repeating existing patterns in my code, and even then it gets it wrong too often to trust

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MekOP•4/23/24, 5:26 PM

ok so after a lengthy conversation with my friend last night, I used the wrong term. apologies. I'm techincally just creating a bunch of functions that make the different types of projects that I create and work with on my personal computer, so, not an a.i., but a small assistant program, and I've negated the use case for it on mobile so it's just going to be a desktop app

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MekOP•4/23/24, 5:27 PM

so basically it'll just be a private piece of software that I made that will have buttons and inputs that I'll nagivate to create the project I'm wanting instead of having to do all of the manual stuff

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MekOP•4/23/24, 5:27 PM

thanks for the help though you guys!

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Jimmacle•4/23/24, 5:29 PM

can you not already do this with custom .NET project templates?

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Jimmacle•4/23/24, 5:30 PM

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/tools/custom-templates

Custom templates for dotnet new - .NET CLI

Learn about custom templates for any type of .NET project or files.

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MekOP•4/23/24, 5:33 PM

ok so I know nothing about templates. Templates aren't a bad idea, however, I'm making the program more personal as it's just being built for me. I did try and go the node.js route with doing it so that I could just run

npm create_project

npm create_project

npm create_project

npm create_project in the terminal, however, I wasn't as successful at it as I thought I would be lol

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Jimmacle•4/23/24, 5:34 PM

my point is mostly don't reinvent the wheel, if the environment you're in has a project template feature it would be better to use that than to start from scratch

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Jimmacle•4/23/24, 5:35 PM

afaik IDEs pull these templates in as well so you'll see them in the relevant options when creating projects there

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MekOP•4/23/24, 5:38 PM

I got you. On a separate note of the assistant that I'm building, I want it to be able to speak it's responses to me like alexa does. I know how to make python speak using

pyttsx3

pyttsx3

pyttsx3

pyttsx3, however, I've never done that in C#. Is it possible?

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Jimmacle•4/23/24, 5:40 PM

probably, find an API that does that and use a C# library to talk to it

JJimmacle probably, find an API that does that and use a C# library to talk to it

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MekOP•4/23/24, 5:43 PM

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.speech.synthesis.speechsynthesizer.speak?view=dotnet-plat-ext-8.0 what about this?

SpeechSynthesizer.Speak Method (System.Speech.Synthesis)

Generates speech output synchronously from a string, a Prompt object, or a PromptBuilder object.

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MekOP•4/23/24, 5:45 PM

I'm just doing research on it for now, however, my end goal is to have a small image of my favorite seven deadly sins character be in the corner of the desktop app, and when they speak, it'll speak their responses outloud, and write them into a chat box icon

TThe Fog from Human Resources You could try to setup your python Ai handler as a FLASK app and then make api t...

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blueberriesiftheywerecats•4/24/24, 9:40 PM

but how does client run both gui and api?

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blueberriesiftheywerecats•4/24/24, 9:41 PM

running 2 separate app sounds like it would work weird

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The Fog from Human Resources•4/24/24, 9:41 PM

Your GUI runs the api on a hidden CLI task

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The Fog from Human Resources•4/24/24, 9:42 PM