GNOME's approach has always been more "spending more time adding these features but the overall leve

GNOME's approach has always been more "spending more time adding these features but the overall level of polish of these features when they do get added is quite high"

AAstral GNOME's approach has always been more "spending more time adding these features ...

Geechan•4/28/24, 5:34 AM

That's basically it. They go at their own pace and prefer to implement the "best possible" solution to things, which causes a lot of conflict with those outside the gnome circle

GGeechan That's basically it. They go at their own pace and prefer to implement the "best...

AstralOP•4/28/24, 5:35 AM

mainly because it's a very different approach to how a lot of other linux projects do things with their more "bleeding edge" focus

AstralOP•4/28/24, 5:35 AM

but I think when your DE is designed to be the general face of modern desktop linux and is present at the front of most flagship distros atm that people new to linux will see when they look up "linux" that that's not inherently a bad approach

AAstral but I think when your DE is designed to be the general face of modern desktop li...

Geechan•4/28/24, 5:37 AM

I would have to agree. Gnome also has by far the most sponsorship money guided towards it, so that would also have influence on how structured they have to be. KDE has always been able to be more experimental

GGeechan I would have to agree. Gnome also has by far the most sponsorship money guided t...

AstralOP•4/28/24, 5:38 AM

mmm. And that's not a bad thing either. I think it's actually healthy that you have two big DE's tackling these two different major angles to things

Geechan•4/28/24, 5:38 AM

It's definitely two different approaches to a modern desktop

Geechan•4/28/24, 5:39 AM

Good thing we have the ability to choose what we prefer with Linux

AstralOP•4/28/24, 5:39 AM

exactly

Hex•4/28/24, 5:48 AM

lol alpine alone is using 300MB wtf

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AstralOP•4/28/24, 5:54 AM

pretty much

AstralOP•4/28/24, 5:55 AM

and I mean, GNOME has a lot of tinkering potential as well so it has some appeal in that area too

AstralOP•4/28/24, 5:55 AM

what with shell extensions and all

AstralOP•4/28/24, 5:57 AM

true

AstralOP•4/28/24, 5:58 AM

there isn't AS much tinker potential

AstralOP•4/28/24, 5:58 AM

but shell extensions offer a degree of tinkerability that is satisfying to many

Hex•4/28/24, 6:02 AM

ryan•4/28/24, 6:07 AM

that's ly right

Hex•4/28/24, 6:07 AM

yep

ryan•4/28/24, 6:08 AM

used to run that on my arch install, love the clean look

Kid•4/28/24, 6:08 AM

Hey, how do you trigger initramfs rebuild now?
I tried this
sudo touch /etc/bazzite/initramfs/rebuild sudo touch /etc/bazzite/initramfs/rebuild

Kyle Gospo•4/28/24, 6:09 AM

rpm-ostree initramfs --enable

Kyle Gospo•4/28/24, 6:09 AM

If you need it

Kyle Gospo•4/28/24, 6:09 AM

Note that your updates will take longer to install with that on

Kyle Gospo•4/28/24, 6:09 AM

We no longer enable it at all because we're able to rebuild it in the image

Kid•4/28/24, 6:10 AM

Oh okay thanks, yea I need it for my Keyboard.
I did this:
sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/hid_apple.confsudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/hid_apple.conf

options hid_apple fnmode=2

options hid_apple fnmode=2

and wanted to rebuild initramfs

Kid•4/28/24, 6:12 AM

and I also typed this now:
sudo nano /etc/dracut.conf.d/hid_apple.confsudo nano /etc/dracut.conf.d/hid_apple.conf

install_items+=" /etc/modprobe.d/hid_apple.conf "

install_items+=" /etc/modprobe.d/hid_apple.conf "

I hope that doesn't conflict with anything, I did it like this on bazzite last time and the last step was to trigger initramfs to rebuild

FFennecTECH 45 mb is possible. I got it down to arround 60 in my normal use case

Hex•4/28/24, 6:13 AM

Hex•4/28/24, 6:13 AM

I wonder if I can go lower

HHex I wonder if I can go lower

Gerblesh•4/28/24, 6:24 AM

window managers are bloat, just use the tty

Kyle Gospo•4/28/24, 6:24 AM

Real

Gerblesh•4/28/24, 6:25 AM

you'll also probably want to reboot to refresh the memory cache since linux likes actually use the memory you have on your system

Gerblesh•4/28/24, 6:26 AM

i'm sure there's also a karg or something to disable memory caching so you can have lower number

KKyle Gospo Note that your updates will take longer to install with that on

Kid•4/28/24, 6:31 AM

Or can I just enable it once, rebuild the initramfs so that my f keys are working normal and then disable it?

KKid Or can I just enable it once, rebuild the initramfs so that my f keys are workin...

Kyle Gospo•4/28/24, 6:32 AM

Must be left enabled to do anything

sectorfive•4/28/24, 6:37 AM

Okay, so here's a problem I'm encountering, it's a stock Bazzite with gnome install, I didn't change much but I noticed now, waydroid doesn't work, it opens a black window for a few seconds and closes.

Ssectorfive Okay, so here's a problem I'm encountering, it's a stock Bazzite with gnome inst...

Kyle Gospo•4/28/24, 6:37 AM

did you follow our setup guide?

KKyle Gospo did you follow our setup guide?

sectorfive•4/28/24, 6:38 AM

I don't think I found any

sectorfive•4/28/24, 6:38 AM

I just downloaded bazzite, used dd on my flash drive installed it and used it.

Ssectorfive I don't think I found any

Kyle Gospo•4/28/24, 6:38 AM

https://universal-blue.discourse.group/docs?topic=32

Universal Blue

Bazzite Waydroid Setup Guide

[Waydroid] NOTE: There is no GPU acceleration when using Nvidia’s proprietary drivers. Waydroid gives users access to an Android container. First-time Setup Open a host terminal and enter this command to setup Waydroid: ujust setup-waydroid Initialize Waydroid Waydroid requires users to initialize it for the first time which can be done by ...