Families beta in desktop and game mode steam beta keep telling me I have updates when switching betw

Families beta in desktop and game mode steam beta keep telling me I have updates when switching between desktop and game mode, I saw one message on here about it a few days ago with no solution, is this occuring to anyone else?

Llune5 Families beta in desktop and game mode steam beta keep telling me I have updates...

HikariKnight•4/30/24, 7:55 PM

system update in most cases

tryhardsoccermomswag•4/30/24, 7:56 PM

steam gaming mode changelogs are never accurate

tryhardsoccermomswag•4/30/24, 7:56 PM

open the system update application

tryhardsoccermomswag•4/30/24, 7:56 PM

see if you actually have an update, at least there will be a log provided

tryhardsoccermomswag•4/30/24, 7:56 PM

keep in mind applications and containers also update during this

tryhardsoccermomswag•4/30/24, 7:56 PM

and anything upstream (ublue/fedora)

lune5OP•4/30/24, 7:57 PM

Naw no update under the desktop system update app. But when steam launches on desktop it'll say I need to join families beta so I do and when in game mode it'll bring me back into stable and then the cycle occurs whenever going back to desktop

KKyle Gospo Would love to hear your use case and what tools you're reliant on

Crono•4/30/24, 7:57 PM

Well - nothing fancy as I'm only now starting proper, you could say; I'm just worried about GPU acceleration in rolling up containers and things of that sort, as I hear it's a bit of a sticking point. Only things I need that I already don't use sandboxed are Godot and Reaper.

Crono•4/30/24, 7:59 PM

That last one is important because I use yabridge for Windows VST compatiblity, and the current versions of Wine have broken compatibility with that. Wasn't too difficult to downgrade and ignore the packages here in Nobara, but I've never really messed with immutable distros.

Llune5 Naw no update under the desktop system update app. But when steam launches on de...

HikariKnight•4/30/24, 8:00 PM

steam being weird

Crono•4/30/24, 8:00 PM

Given my current status, I'd be more than happy to use Bazzite to brave those waters, honestly.

CCrono Well - nothing fancy as I'm only now starting proper, you could say; I'm just wo...

Kyle Gospo•4/30/24, 8:01 PM

good news is Distrobox is fully GPU accelerated, it's running on your active kernel and not a VM

Kyle Gospo•4/30/24, 8:01 PM

Kyle Gospo•4/30/24, 8:01 PM

Here's blender in a fedora distrobox, exported to the desktop

Kyle Gospo•4/30/24, 8:01 PM

Kyle Gospo•4/30/24, 8:01 PM

and here it is picking up ROCM HIP

Crono•4/30/24, 8:01 PM

Very cool!

CCrono That last one is important because I use yabridge for Windows VST compatiblity, ...

tryhardsoccermomswag•4/30/24, 8:01 PM

also good news here

tryhardsoccermomswag•4/30/24, 8:01 PM

no need to downgrade packages

tryhardsoccermomswag•4/30/24, 8:01 PM

can always rollback to a pinned deployment

tryhardsoccermomswag•4/30/24, 8:02 PM

also rollback to any bazzite build within the last 90 days

tryhardsoccermomswag•4/30/24, 8:02 PM

so if something at a system-level broke, this will take you back keeping your userdata intact

Crono•4/30/24, 8:03 PM

Now that I think about it, I could just spin up a Reaper + yabridge box with the proper Wine version

Crono•4/30/24, 8:04 PM

Sounds like an even more robust solution.

Crono•4/30/24, 8:04 PM

There's been talks about a yabridge Flatpak too, so it could be even easier in the future

CCrono Now that I think about it, I could just spin up a Reaper + yabridge box with the...

Kyle Gospo•4/30/24, 8:04 PM

100%

Kyle Gospo•4/30/24, 8:05 PM

we ship BoxBuddy to make it easier, too

Kyle Gospo•4/30/24, 8:05 PM

button press to export stuff you've installed

Kyle Gospo•4/30/24, 8:05 PM

so it just shows up as a native app

Kyle Gospo•4/30/24, 8:05 PM

Crono•4/30/24, 8:06 PM

Such cool technology

Crono•4/30/24, 8:07 PM

What of kernel versions, though? - either to test regressions in isolation, or just some custom patches

tryhardsoccermomswag•4/30/24, 8:08 PM

rollbacks/rebasing

Crono•4/30/24, 8:08 PM

There's a lot of niche controller patches that aren't merged upstream, for instance

tryhardsoccermomswag•4/30/24, 8:08 PM

you can't change the kernel individually without building your own version of bazzite

tryhardsoccermomswag•4/30/24, 8:08 PM

it's all in the image as is

Crono•4/30/24, 8:08 PM

Not even layering?

tryhardsoccermomswag•4/30/24, 8:08 PM

i don't think you can layer and replace a kernel like that but maybe someone has better information about that

tryhardsoccermomswag•4/30/24, 8:08 PM

i don't think anyone has tried that lol

Crono•4/30/24, 8:08 PM

Interesting

tryhardsoccermomswag•4/30/24, 8:09 PM

you usually can't touch system-level stuff like that

tryhardsoccermomswag•4/30/24, 8:09 PM

at most

tryhardsoccermomswag•4/30/24, 8:09 PM

you can use mesa-gitmesa-git in a distrobox container and every application in that container will use the bleeding edge mesa driver

tryhardsoccermomswag•4/30/24, 8:09 PM

only in that container though

tryhardsoccermomswag•4/30/24, 8:09 PM

don't think you can do that with kernels either

CCrono There's a lot of niche controller patches that aren't merged upstream, for insta...

Kyle Gospo•4/30/24, 8:11 PM

if you need stuff like this you can open an issue in ublue-os/akmods

Kyle Gospo•4/30/24, 8:11 PM

we're pretty receptive to things that add functionality and don't break other hardware

Crono•4/30/24, 8:13 PM

Sounds great!

Crono•4/30/24, 8:15 PM

I guess the very last system-level thing I might want to do is enabling full preemption and realtime-setup, don't imagine that's too difficult to do?

CCrono I guess the very last system-level thing I might want to do is enabling full pre...

Kyle Gospo•4/30/24, 8:17 PM

Can you show me how you set that up currently?

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