ZDo you need a link to tiobe or something?
KS&box will also be heavy on C#
Pjesus i forgot about that
PS&box will release in the year 2055
ZThis is just false. While Unity is a driver but most software is not games
KAnd Unreal has great C# support
ZUnreal uses C# to drive in packaging system
Pagain you are trying to conflate what you see with a handful of games to the enntire software industry
Hwhat
Pmost developers are NOT writing C#
Pit's not been particularly nice to developers until recently
H^ this
Pthe only reason people care about it now is because microsoft finally let the CLR team spread their wings
Pwhich was NOT a thing 10, 20, 30 years ago when most standard practice evolved.
Hsame happened on the automation side of things
Hpowershell was extremely limited
Peven still
Hnow it's extremely extensible
ZActually its been pretty nice for 20 years. People just didn't like there were two runtimes & compilers. Yet we have far more with other langs.
Pthe only reason powershell is cross platform now is because we embarrassed MS into admitting they don't run azure stack on windows
HAzure runs mostly, well, linux.
HDo you have any suggestions to have an experience closer to a console?
KOn Nvidia? No
Padorable how they tried to keep that under wraps too
Hcof cof cbr mariner
ZThey were very open about this
Hat first? no they weren't
Pthey absolutely were not open about this back when azure first started getting marketing
Htechnically you can do some bizarre stuff and use pegasus frontend somehow
ZYou mean because the product wasn't ready? Windows servers and toolset is very old. The Linux toolset managed under them was not.
Pyeah for nvidia i'd focus more on using it for game streaming
Hbut it will not be as smooth
Pif you care about the console experience
Pthat's the best you will get atm with NV
HX11 is a pain fr
Pwhat
Hanyways I'm out of this convo
Pyeah im gonna go make my coffee
ZBig corps don't just share things dude. Its like advertising something you're not yet sure if its the direction you will be taking yet (ppl complain endlessly if you promise something but decide you need to change later, so what seems like hiding is sometimes just not ready yet or hasn't gotten approval yet)
ZThis is nothing new
ZThere is a lot about MS I do not like as a company. But there are some things they have done pretty well at times. Being open about what they're thinking or developing has always been something they are more reserved about. They have a lot of executive channels that make things less than ideal at times.
ZYet Unity is the most used game-engine. Being anti MS is one thing (which I'm with you on in many ways) but applying that bias to override all other forms of reasoning is a bit silly. C# is objectively good for many technical reasons in the game world and many other worlds as well. Is it perfect, No. Do I like the VM, not really. Is it flawed, yes. But so are many other langs, particularly on their compiler sides. Its just MS didn't make them I'm hearing is the issue. Doesn't make them better though. I emphasize Roslyn here because outside all the flaws in the .NET world this isn't one of them and something far to many lang lack completely or in elegance.
Pbrother what
Pgod damn you are trying really hard to feel validated here but i will not do it for you
Pyou started off here by saying you're trying to reinvent the CLR yourself (the runtime that modern dotnet IR already runs under that targets c for native c speeds)
HWhen I had the Steam deck I used the NVidia PC for streaming, now it has been sitting idle for a while so I wanted to put it in the living room and use it as a console
Pplease do not reply to me again if you are still looking to argue about C#
ZI started off saying I'm reinventing the CLR? Dude did you smoke a joint before getting online?
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