Remind me again why one would want to use Hono instead of the built-in thing?

Zzensin Remind me again why one would want to use Hono instead of the built-in thing?

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I know. Its an old codebase. We have plans to shift it. But its weird that stuff stopped working today as we didnt update hono version

BBallisticSwami I know. Its an old codebase. We have plans to shift it. But its weird that stuff...

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zensinOP•5/22/24, 7:11 AM

oh, I wasn't referring to any specific thing. I meant generally

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zensinOP•5/22/24, 7:12 AM

anybody know how much average latency is added by this AI gateway thing?

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zensinOP•5/22/24, 7:12 AM

im not inclined to messs with it without knowing

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Alejandro Mery•5/22/24, 9:41 AM

hi, I'm trying to

wrangler login

wrangler login

but....

Access to manifest at 'https://consent.dash.cloudflare.com/manifest.json' from origin 'https://dash.cloudflare.com' has been blocked by CORS policy: No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource.
consent.dash.cloudflare.com/manifest.json:1 
       Failed to load resource: net::ERR_FAILED
consent-form:1 Access to internal resource at 'https://consent.dash.cloudflare.com/manifest.json' from origin 'https://dash.cloudflare.com' has been blocked by CORS policy: No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource.

Access to manifest at 'https://consent.dash.cloudflare.com/manifest.json' from origin 'https://dash.cloudflare.com' has been blocked by CORS policy: No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource.
consent.dash.cloudflare.com/manifest.json:1 
       Failed to load resource: net::ERR_FAILED
consent-form:1 Access to internal resource at 'https://consent.dash.cloudflare.com/manifest.json' from origin 'https://dash.cloudflare.com' has been blocked by CORS policy: No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource.

Access to manifest at 'https://consent.dash.cloudflare.com/manifest.json' from origin 'https://dash.cloudflare.com' has been blocked by CORS policy: No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource.
consent.dash.cloudflare.com/manifest.json:1 
       Failed to load resource: net::ERR_FAILED
consent-form:1 Access to internal resource at 'https://consent.dash.cloudflare.com/manifest.json' from origin 'https://dash.cloudflare.com' has been blocked by CORS policy: No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource.

Access to manifest at 'https://consent.dash.cloudflare.com/manifest.json' from origin 'https://dash.cloudflare.com' has been blocked by CORS policy: No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource.
consent.dash.cloudflare.com/manifest.json:1 
       Failed to load resource: net::ERR_FAILED
consent-form:1 Access to internal resource at 'https://consent.dash.cloudflare.com/manifest.json' from origin 'https://dash.cloudflare.com' has been blocked by CORS policy: No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource.

any chance this is a problem on my side?

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Alejandro Mery•5/22/24, 9:55 AM

leading to

✘ [ERROR] Timed out waiting for authorization code, please try again.

✘ [ERROR] Timed out waiting for authorization code, please try again.

✘ [ERROR] Timed out waiting for authorization code, please try again.

✘ [ERROR] Timed out waiting for authorization code, please try again. as

[Allow]

[Allow]

[Allow]

[Allow] never succeeds

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zensinOP•5/22/24, 10:11 AM

Do ts workers startup faster than js workers?

Zzensin Do ts workers startup faster than js workers?

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Alejandro Mery•5/22/24, 10:12 AM

for

wrangler deploy

wrangler deploy

wrangler deploy

wrangler deploy via token api, what permissions are needed? I enabled

Cloudflare Pages:Edit, Workers KV Storage:Edit

Cloudflare Pages:Edit, Workers KV Storage:Edit

Cloudflare Pages:Edit, Workers KV Storage:Edit

Cloudflare Pages:Edit, Workers KV Storage:Edit

```
User Details:Read
```
User Details:Read
```
User Details:Read
```
User Details:Read
but it's still saying a very useful "Please ensure it has the correct permissions for this operation".

Zzensin Do ts workers startup faster than js workers?

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Alejandro Mery•5/22/24, 10:13 AM

unlikely considering ts is a layer on top of plain js

AAlejandro Mery unlikely considering ts is a layer on top of plain js

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zensinOP•5/22/24, 10:13 AM

unless there's some wasm magic happening

Zzensin unless there's some wasm magic happening

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Alejandro Mery•5/22/24, 10:13 AM

wouldn't that also affect js? in which case they would be the same, isn't it?

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zensinOP•5/22/24, 10:16 AM

I ask because I got

[WARNING] Your Worker failed validation because it exceeded startup limits.

[WARNING] Your Worker failed validation because it exceeded startup limits.

[WARNING] Your Worker failed validation because it exceeded startup limits.

[WARNING] Your Worker failed validation because it exceeded startup limits. for what seems like nearly the same script. The only diff is the js one (The one throwing deploy error) logic is inside a class method and the ts version (which does deploy) has biz logic inside fetch

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zensinOP•5/22/24, 10:16 AM

bc I want to do fancy rpc things with streams

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Alejandro Mery•5/22/24, 10:16 AM

I can't even deploy the example worker created by c3

Zzensin I ask because I got `[WARNING] Your Worker failed validation because it exceeded...

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Alejandro Mery•5/22/24, 10:17 AM

ouch

JJoeDoe What's the best way to cache data from D1 used by a api request via workers? I n...

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JoeDoe•5/22/24, 10:27 AM

if anyone could point me in right direction please, would be much appreciated

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zensinOP•5/22/24, 10:35 AM

oh wait

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zensinOP•5/22/24, 10:35 AM

I can import stuff in the method probably right?

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zensinOP•5/22/24, 10:39 AM

it worked

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zensinOP•5/22/24, 10:39 AM

const { Something} = await import("someGiantPackage");

const { Something} = await import("someGiantPackage");

const { Something} = await import("someGiantPackage");

const { Something} = await import("someGiantPackage");

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zensinOP•5/22/24, 10:41 AM

I wish I could decide what is acceptible startup time

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zensinOP•5/22/24, 10:41 AM

we are the demigods

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zensinOP•5/22/24, 10:43 AM

unless we're the heroes of renown

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zensinOP•5/22/24, 11:14 AM

in js how to get env in an rpc worker like:

export default class extends WorkerEntrypoint {
  async fetch() { return new Response("Hello from Worker B"); }

  async chat(messages) {
     // need env here
  }

export default class extends WorkerEntrypoint {
  async fetch() { return new Response("Hello from Worker B"); }

  async chat(messages) {
     // need env here
  }

export default class extends WorkerEntrypoint {
  async fetch() { return new Response("Hello from Worker B"); }

  async chat(messages) {
     // need env here
  }

export default class extends WorkerEntrypoint {
  async fetch() { return new Response("Hello from Worker B"); }

  async chat(messages) {
     // need env here
  }

pretty sure I saw it before but I forget. Do I have to pass it from the calling worker?

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zensinOP•5/22/24, 11:16 AM

can't just pass it. it doesn't serialize

Zzensin in js how to get env in an rpc worker like: ```js export default class extends ...

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Hello, I’m Allie!•5/22/24, 11:18 AM

export default class extends WorkerEntrypoint<Environment> {
  async fetch() { return new Response("Hello from Worker B"); }

  async chat(messages) {
    this.env // Do something
  }
}

export default class extends WorkerEntrypoint<Environment> {
  async fetch() { return new Response("Hello from Worker B"); }

  async chat(messages) {
    this.env // Do something
  }
}

export default class extends WorkerEntrypoint<Environment> {
  async fetch() { return new Response("Hello from Worker B"); }

  async chat(messages) {
    this.env // Do something
  }
}

export default class extends WorkerEntrypoint<Environment> {
  async fetch() { return new Response("Hello from Worker B"); }

  async chat(messages) {
    this.env // Do something
  }
}

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zensinOP•5/22/24, 11:22 AM

of course I didn't try the obvious thing. thx

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zensinOP•5/22/24, 12:56 PM

durable objects + rpc are great. Must keep mining this vein

Zzensin durable objects + rpc are great. Must keep mining this vein

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Alejandro Mery•5/22/24, 1:09 PM

itty-durable

itty-durable

itty-durable

itty-durable is amazing

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zensinOP•5/22/24, 1:40 PM

https://tenor.com/view/zoolander-will-ferrell-beautiful-its-beautiful-wonderful-gif-3547414

Tenor

Dear god, it's beautiful! - Will Ferrell in Zoolander

AAlejandro Mery `itty-durable` is amazing

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Hello, I’m Allie!•5/22/24, 1:44 PM

I'm wondering, what does

itty-durable

itty-durable

itty-durable

itty-durable do that RPC doesn't?

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zensinOP•5/22/24, 1:47 PM

if it's not using rpc I wouldn't use it

Z

zensinOP•5/22/24, 1:50 PM

a thin abstraction over rpc, do, streams, etc. could be fun if it made some super clever pattern easy

Z

zensinOP•5/22/24, 1:50 PM

there are many ways to do actors and events

Z

zensinOP•5/22/24, 1:54 PM

we could call it Streaming Hashable Interface TTY

HHello, I’m Allie!I'm wondering, what does `itty-durable` do that RPC doesn't?

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Alejandro Mery•5/22/24, 2:00 PM

I haven't tried the official, to me it's a fully typed magic store like Pinia for Vue but for workers

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Omar Khatib•5/22/24, 2:08 PM

Hello everyone, Any one is using cloudflare workers as a there full serverless backend, like workers as a microserverless and the rest of services and would like to share his experiance, I'm thinking about it but I couldn't fine a clear answers about the pros and cons

OOmar Khatib Hello everyone, Any one is using cloudflare workers as a there full serverless b...

K

kap•5/22/24, 3:45 PM

Hit me up

OOmar Khatib Hello everyone, Any one is using cloudflare workers as a there full serverless b...

K

kap•5/22/24, 3:46 PM

I like it for the most part. Would recommend.

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Marius B.•5/22/24, 4:16 PM

Hello! I am building a proxy on Workers. If the proxied api is slow, will this cost me GB-s? So optimizing my api will save me money on workers? Or is only real computing power billed, like heavy calculations?

MMarius B.Hello! I am building a proxy on Workers. If the proxied api is slow, will this c...

C

Chaika•5/22/24, 4:59 PM

If you're using Workers Standard (which everyone should be outside of Enterprises, and Durable Objects), you're only billed for CPU time (the time the worker is actively doing work) and not duration (GB-s), so the api being slower shouldn't cost you anymore, as the cpu is idle while waiting

C

Cyb3r-Jak3•5/23/24, 3:30 AM

Correct, there was no need for a seperate channel for it

Jjai_s What is the level of typescript support on workers?

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Ian•5/23/24, 5:44 AM

fully supported. Nearly every example in the docs shows both JS and TS.

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ehrenmann•5/23/24, 7:21 AM

Can someone explain the difference between workers for platforms and standard? I couldnt unterstand it pretty well on internet. Thanks

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advaith•5/23/24, 7:34 AM

I have a worker that runs every minute, checks if there are posts newer than the last post saved in KV, and forwards them if so. On the past few days, I've noticed posts being forwarded twice, which indicates that KV is returning outdated info a minute later. I've never seen this happen before; was there a recent change that would make KV take longer to update? Is there anything I can do to avoid this happening, other than changing the interval the worker runs on? (please ping with response)

Eehrenmann Can someone explain the difference between workers for platforms and standard? I...

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Walshy•5/23/24, 8:52 AM

Workers for platforms is so you can turn workers into a SaaS product.
Docs give a good explanation: https://developers.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-for-platforms/workers-for-platforms/

Remind me again why one would want to use Hono instead of the built-in thing?

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