a lot more on the managed C++ side than C#, but still managed
a lot more on the managed C++ side than C#, but still managed
AThat means a whole lot to me
Mi'm sure there's a solution for ps5 if you pay sony some money
AI was worried I made a mistake
Pthat’s not to say C# slots in easily, the game dev ecosystem is still built for C++ wherever you look
Pbut there’s a lot of work done to cater with C#
Myou would probably have some trouble using sony's proprietary graphics API
Pthe FNA guys ported NativeAOT to consoles and make it available for free to any licensed developer
AI mean, as long as I'm not hard locked out of using the language at all, the rest maybe I can deal with
Mthere is no silk.net.libgnm yet
Ahaha
Ano
Lyet
Mmaybe for 3.x :^)
PIf any licensed developer wants to sponsor us to introduce things like that we’d be all ears
Ais that a hint or a joke XD
Mthat is a joke
Munless someone pays us
Amaybe wgpu would get some gnm love
Mid tech 7 uses vulkan, so i figure id has some sort of wrapper there
Pmost licensed devs either:
- Use an engine that uses the proprietary APIs
- Follows the happy path for a given ecosystem which would be C++
Asince I don't have access to internal forums, and can only see hearsay, people've been saying vulkan works on ps5, but something tells me this is a lie
PSony is a promoter member of Khronos
Pthey have a seat on the board and invest at least ~$80k per annum
Li mean maybe?
how even is rust on game consoles
how even is rust on game consoles
Lits LLVM so i dont imagine its bad
CWhen even the devkits are free lmao. 
SDL already works on Xbox. Just have decent SDL bindings and you are most of the way there assuming you got AOT working.
SDL already works on Xbox. Just have decent SDL bindings and you are most of the way there assuming you got AOT working.Psome work needs to be put into making a GDKX deployment model sane
CFrom your end/on the github or did you mean something else?
CAs it is not too hard to use with VS.
Mi was talking about playstation
Mif sony wants to ship me some of those for free i wouldn't mind
CEven so. Sony has a loan program.
Aooh nice, interest on dev kit
Amaybe I forget about ps for a while then 
CMy actual point was asking for money for it to be done. I get work has value but eh it is easy enough to stand up something on its own without needing to resort to paying other devs.
CIf you can get an Xbox/PS dev kit you can stand up or just your own abstraction and be done with it.
CYou have to mutilate the thing but it works.
Aopentk on ps? Isn't it opengl?
CYou would have to tear down most of it yeah.
Pwhy do you put OpenTK in spoilers
Pit’s not a forbidden word haha
CJust for fun.
Pin any case most of the issue with console support is one of tooling, not feasibility
Astripping down opentk to get a different backend sounds similar to just using silk.net anyways...?
CYup.
Pyes we could get silk.net running on consoles given the access and the time, but wrapping it up in a nice “dotnet build”/“dotnet run” experience is hard
CAssuming you paid to get it added.
Aif I got far enough in skill to get a dev kit, I think I could sort out getting tooling to work
AI just thought there was no way for dotnet to work on consoles
Pagain we implore anyone looking to port their silk apps to consoles to get in touch, we’ve had engagements with the Xbox middleware team and they said they’re happy to support us provided a licensed developer expressed intent in using silk’s support