I'm gonna die - Silk.NET

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Perksey•5/27/24, 3:16 AM

we’d be giving ourselves maintainer burden in benefit exclusively of those who have the means to support the project but don’t.

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Maxine•5/27/24, 3:16 AM

fair cop

AAryzen I'm gonna die

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Lyris the Kitori•5/27/24, 3:16 AM

yeah its just button combo simulator

PPerksey we’d be giving ourselves maintainer burden in benefit exclusively of those who h...

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Maxine•5/27/24, 3:17 AM

how does it feel, being this guy?

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ChickenSystems•5/27/24, 3:18 AM

That is curl.

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Perksey•5/27/24, 3:18 AM

I haven’t been maintaining silk since I was in utero though

CChickenSystems That is curl.

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Perksey•5/27/24, 3:18 AM

or xz utils apparently

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ChickenSystems•5/27/24, 3:20 AM

Yeah. :/

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Maxine•5/27/24, 3:21 AM

if big tech doesn't want to be broken into, they should be replying to the "i need a new maintainer" threads

PPerksey we’d be giving ourselves maintainer burden in benefit exclusively of those who h...

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ChickenSystems•5/27/24, 3:25 AM

There is little/no money in this space. You use your work to get hired or do it because you enjoy it. Until that changes I doubt anyone is going to sponsor development in any meaningful way. Not to devalue your (or my own) work but once people get a window/graphics binding standing they forget about the lib until it breaks or they need documentation or help.

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ChickenSystems•5/27/24, 3:25 AM

The space Silk and OTK occupy is to be transparent. And sadly that means to the wallet too.

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ChickenSystems•5/27/24, 3:28 AM

I am not saying to do the work for consoles obviously. Just that the funding model is cursed imo.

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Perksey•5/27/24, 3:29 AM

yeah I’ve known this since I’ve started the project, but we’re catering to mostly hobbyists. If people have console access that means they’re actively going to market and we’re a dependency of that, doing work that permanently adds to the project without return to the project to ensure that burden can be taken seems nuts.

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ChickenSystems•5/27/24, 3:34 AM

Seeing a handful of libraries publicly support consoles leads me to believe they tried and were unable to squeeze any money out of devs so they just went with it. The build targets for at least the Xbox are not too insane. I guess it might be a bit more complex considering the wider API space Silk supports though. At the end of the day the demand is not too high it is just something neat to put on the github and once in a while someone will use it maybe.

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Gandalf Le Dev•5/27/24, 10:11 AM

Have any of you managed to setup serilog and output json file that is correctly formatted ? My output is this :

{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:47.1172670Z","@mt":"Logging system initialized","@l":"Debug"}
{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:50.3756520Z","@mt":"This is a fatal message","@l":"Fatal"}
{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:50.5357310Z","@mt":"This is a fatal message","@l":"Fatal"}

{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:47.1172670Z","@mt":"Logging system initialized","@l":"Debug"}
{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:50.3756520Z","@mt":"This is a fatal message","@l":"Fatal"}
{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:50.5357310Z","@mt":"This is a fatal message","@l":"Fatal"}

{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:47.1172670Z","@mt":"Logging system initialized","@l":"Debug"}
{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:50.3756520Z","@mt":"This is a fatal message","@l":"Fatal"}
{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:50.5357310Z","@mt":"This is a fatal message","@l":"Fatal"}

{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:47.1172670Z","@mt":"Logging system initialized","@l":"Debug"}
{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:50.3756520Z","@mt":"This is a fatal message","@l":"Fatal"}
{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:50.5357310Z","@mt":"This is a fatal message","@l":"Fatal"}

and I initialize it like this:

    public override void _Ready()
    {
        Log.Logger = new LoggerConfiguration()
#if DEBUG
            .MinimumLevel.Verbose()
#endif
            .WriteTo.File(new CompactJsonFormatter(), "./.bin/logs/log_.json", rollingInterval: RollingInterval.Day,
                rollOnFileSizeLimit: true)
            // .WriteTo.Godot()
            // .WriteTo.InMemory(_events)
            .CreateLogger();

        Log.Debug("Logging system initialized");
    }

    public override void _ExitTree()
    {
        Log.CloseAndFlush();
    }

    public override void _Ready()
    {
        Log.Logger = new LoggerConfiguration()
#if DEBUG
            .MinimumLevel.Verbose()
#endif
            .WriteTo.File(new CompactJsonFormatter(), "./.bin/logs/log_.json", rollingInterval: RollingInterval.Day,
                rollOnFileSizeLimit: true)
            // .WriteTo.Godot()
            // .WriteTo.InMemory(_events)
            .CreateLogger();

        Log.Debug("Logging system initialized");
    }

    public override void _ExitTree()
    {
        Log.CloseAndFlush();
    }

    public override void _Ready()
    {
        Log.Logger = new LoggerConfiguration()
#if DEBUG
            .MinimumLevel.Verbose()
#endif
            .WriteTo.File(new CompactJsonFormatter(), "./.bin/logs/log_.json", rollingInterval: RollingInterval.Day,
                rollOnFileSizeLimit: true)
            // .WriteTo.Godot()
            // .WriteTo.InMemory(_events)
            .CreateLogger();

        Log.Debug("Logging system initialized");
    }

    public override void _ExitTree()
    {
        Log.CloseAndFlush();
    }

    public override void _Ready()
    {
        Log.Logger = new LoggerConfiguration()
#if DEBUG
            .MinimumLevel.Verbose()
#endif
            .WriteTo.File(new CompactJsonFormatter(), "./.bin/logs/log_.json", rollingInterval: RollingInterval.Day,
                rollOnFileSizeLimit: true)
            // .WriteTo.Godot()
            // .WriteTo.InMemory(_events)
            .CreateLogger();

        Log.Debug("Logging system initialized");
    }

    public override void _ExitTree()
    {
        Log.CloseAndFlush();
    }

The output is missing array [] enclosure and commas, it should look like this

[
{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:47.1172670Z","@mt":"Logging system initialized","@l":"Debug"},
{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:50.3756520Z","@mt":"This is a fatal message","@l":"Fatal"},
{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:50.5357310Z","@mt":"This is a fatal message","@l":"Fatal"}
]

[
{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:47.1172670Z","@mt":"Logging system initialized","@l":"Debug"},
{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:50.3756520Z","@mt":"This is a fatal message","@l":"Fatal"},
{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:50.5357310Z","@mt":"This is a fatal message","@l":"Fatal"}
]

[
{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:47.1172670Z","@mt":"Logging system initialized","@l":"Debug"},
{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:50.3756520Z","@mt":"This is a fatal message","@l":"Fatal"},
{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:50.5357310Z","@mt":"This is a fatal message","@l":"Fatal"}
]

[
{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:47.1172670Z","@mt":"Logging system initialized","@l":"Debug"},
{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:50.3756520Z","@mt":"This is a fatal message","@l":"Fatal"},
{"@t":"2024-05-26T21:02:50.5357310Z","@mt":"This is a fatal message","@l":"Fatal"}
]

(this example uses godot logic but I have the same problem with silk.net)

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queenvicky•5/27/24, 9:53 PM

anybody still have the several-year old "Vulkan Book" repository lying around? I know I'm piling on projects again, but would like to look into some kind of project of that kind maybe...

Qqueenvicky anybody still have the several-year old "Vulkan Book" repository lying around? I...

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Perksey•5/27/24, 10:14 PM

#vulkan-book https://github.com/Ultz/VulkanBook

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sowa705•5/28/24, 6:01 PM

ok so lenovo has no laptops at launch here

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sowa705•5/28/24, 6:01 PM

so I'm getting the asus but it's a bit suspect because it's supposedely full metal

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sowa705•5/28/24, 6:02 PM

I don't really believe that asus would actually full CNC machine a laptop but idk

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sowa705•5/28/24, 6:05 PM

also that cooler is very big for a supposedely power efficient chip

PPerksey #vulkan-book https://github.com/Ultz/VulkanBook

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queenvicky•5/28/24, 9:50 PM

Thanks, and another project "on the heap"...

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Maxine•5/29/24, 2:38 AM

all my projects get allocated but never garbage collected

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AryzenOP•5/29/24, 3:36 AM

gen 2 projects

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Linx145•5/29/24, 5:14 AM

coming from vulkan, my experience with opengl is horrific

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Linx145•5/29/24, 5:14 AM

why do random things have side effects with random storing of currently bound data

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Linx145•5/29/24, 5:15 AM

at least i hope by the end of this the game/engine can run on that weird guy's laptop with 2 gpus where 1 renders and the other presents like some kinda screwed up bridge keeper riddle or something

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Lyris the Kitori•5/29/24, 8:43 AM

would you guys rather have a penny that doubles in size every day with no limits
or a million dollars

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alexrp•5/29/24, 8:43 AM

is the value of the penny going to increase with its size

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Lyris the Kitori•5/29/24, 8:44 AM

depends

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Lyris the Kitori•5/29/24, 8:44 AM

it might lose its purchasing power since its not a standard penny anymore and does not fit the specifications

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Lyris the Kitori•5/29/24, 8:44 AM

but pennies are already worth more in their weight in copper than their purchasing power

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Lyris the Kitori•5/29/24, 8:44 AM

so

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alexrp•5/29/24, 8:50 AM

assuming i don't have to crash the copper market by selling the penny all in one go, i guess i'd take the penny

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Lyris the Kitori•5/29/24, 8:50 AM

but like does that stop the penny from growing

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Lyris the Kitori•5/29/24, 8:51 AM

by the time its big enough to be worth more than a million dollars, its gotta be pretty big

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Lyris the Kitori•5/29/24, 8:51 AM

thats like 250k pounds of copper for a million dollars

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Lyris the Kitori•5/29/24, 8:53 AM

at what point does the penny destroy the earth

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alexrp•5/29/24, 8:53 AM

maybe i can convince someone to lend me enough money to send it into space before it grows too big

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Lyris the Kitori•5/29/24, 8:54 AM

hmmm i dont think itd be possible to send it into space fast enough to save us, since its exponentially growing, no matter how fast you shoot it into space ittl catch up

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Lyris the Kitori•5/29/24, 8:54 AM

wait what happens when it grows faster than the speed of light

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alexrp•5/29/24, 8:55 AM

how long would it take for it to consume the universe

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Lyris the Kitori•5/29/24, 8:55 AM

hmmmmm

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Lyris the Kitori•5/29/24, 8:55 AM

im going to run the math

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Lyris the Kitori•5/29/24, 8:55 AM

0.75inches per in diameter

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Lyris the Kitori•5/29/24, 8:56 AM

so the math for "size after x days" is

0.75 x 2^t

0.75 x 2^t

0.75 x 2^t

0.75 x 2^t where

t

t is days

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Lyris the Kitori•5/29/24, 8:56 AM

since we dont know the size of the full universe, lets take the observable universe

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Lyris the Kitori•5/29/24, 8:56 AM

93 billion light years

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Lyris the Kitori•5/29/24, 8:58 AM

96 days

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Lyris the Kitori•5/29/24, 8:58 AM

until the diameter is bigger than the size of the observable universe