it doesn't literally stop the filesystem from being copy-on-write anyway
it doesn't literally stop the filesystem from being copy-on-write anyway
Pit just prevents deduplication using those factors
RIt reduces the impact at least.
RI never been a fan of btrfs TBC
RLost data twice on it XD
Pyeah it is still fundamentally an issue with the FS and certain forms of storage
Pdepending on how shit your drive is you are making a big tradeoff by not using a journaled fs
RBut it's the best CoW FS we have that works decently.
Pyeah unless you completely defer cow to the hv and use basically raw block storage in a VM it's kinda shit
K(open)ZFS, APFS, BtrFS 
RAPFS? XD
Plmfao
Kbache...
RI love ZFS, but too much issues being OOT.
RIf you have a recent kernel.
Panyway if you notice steam DoSing your SSD while downloading larger games and it annoys you, it's BTRFS problem
Pthanks for coming to my TED talk
RI know what it is, but WHY would you touch Apple stuff? /s
RI know 
Dall my handhelds go standby when i press power button, only gpdwin3 is shutting down, how can i change that?
KI thought it's also copy on write
R(After being burned with memory issues on ZFS with VMs)
Papple probably uses both COW and journaling depending on the disk type etc.
RYeah, it is, but why would you risk data on a FS which is not meant for anything other than Apple stuff?
Pyeah i wouldn't do that for the same reason i wouldn't use NTFS
KJust wanted to mention it, I'd also not use ZFS on loonix
PZFS is uhhh
Pout of my paygrade
P:)
RWell, NTFS has far more issues than a UNIX FS XD
Phmmmm
KJust use btrfs on Windows :P
Pidk it works fine UNTIL you mount an NTFS drive with linux
RShockly enough, it works XD
Kwinbtrfs
RI never would have guessed that it would.
Ksame
RBut it does XD
Pdon't rely too heavily on it but yes
Pwindows is pretty flexible with storage drivers nowadays but they can be buggy
R(You should never trust BTRFS with important data at all anyway XD)
Plol that's so overblown
Pbuy a UPS if you're paranoid
RZFS is amazing for storage management, but being OOT still makes it impracticable.
RUnless you run a server when you can afford old kernels in general.
KI really enjoy BtrFS, I don't know anything ... but since I used openSUSE for the first time with BtrFS and Snapper by default ... I never wanted to use ext4 again.
And I was so mad that default Fedora doesn't come with a Snapper layout or Timeshift layout by default ... why do they even use BtrFS on Workstation? Even RHEL uses XFS iirc. But at least the atomic spins make use out of it..
And I was so mad that default Fedora doesn't come with a Snapper layout or Timeshift layout by default ... why do they even use BtrFS on Workstation? Even RHEL uses XFS iirc. But at least the atomic spins make use out of it..
Plike honestly the only time it's an issue is if you're irresponsible or your pc loses power at random
Pdon't be irresponsible
Kand how can you rollback to generations with NixOS on ext4... I thought only CoW fuckery can do it . . . .
