I can confirm it's actually a thing, had to make an investigation for a ticket. Combed through EXIF

I can confirm it's actually a thing, had to make an investigation for a ticket. Combed through EXIF for documents and web apps (including teams) strips some data out when saving documents which are normally present when editing them in the desktop versions of the apps (namely comments and such collaboration features). When externals edited documents in web apps (because the E1 license doesn't provide them with a desktop version of the app) and sent them beack there were differences in the document and truthfully there's nothing you can do apart fom agreeing on using one version and sticking to it if you want consistency

antheas•6/1/24, 1:24 PM

In general android has state of the art security

Aantheas In general android has state of the art security

Crono•6/1/24, 1:25 PM

Bluetooth

antheas•6/1/24, 1:25 PM

I think it's very likely recall won't blindly record the screen but work per windoe

Hunanbean•6/1/24, 1:25 PM

basically, it will be how it always is. Pro version users can use GPEDIT to control it. Home version users will not be able to disable it. remember, with windows, You/Your Information are the payment.

CCrono Bluetooth

Crono•6/1/24, 1:26 PM

Also remember reading something about its VPN implementation being very vulnerable sometime ago

CCrono Bluetooth

antheas•6/1/24, 1:26 PM

At least it's protected by selinux

Ppotemkinhr I can confirm it's actually a thing, had to make an investigation for a ticket. ...

59smoke•6/1/24, 1:26 PM

Which I have to tell people and they don't like it cause it makes them have to do more editing work

antheas•6/1/24, 1:26 PM

So even if it's compromised you don't takeover the device

antheas•6/1/24, 1:26 PM

VPN implementation had a couple issues with dns leakage but that's not that much of a biggie

antheas•6/1/24, 1:27 PM

VPNs are a pain

potemkinhrOP•6/1/24, 1:28 PM

Will see what we'll get at work for new machines but don't think it'll fly wery well with our new CIO

Aantheas I think it's very likely recall won't blindly record the screen but work per win...

59smoke•6/1/24, 1:28 PM

I used to work for astrazenica. Their computer systems ran like dogshit cause all of their severs were located at their head quarters in Liverpool. They didnt want it to run off the azur cloud or something which would have worked better for people in other countries cause then all their proprietary data would be on MS servers

Its the hypocrisy of it

Mervius•6/1/24, 1:29 PM

wasn't there a post about vpns kinda just not working in general if your system supports DHCP option 121 ubder some circumstances

Mervius•6/1/24, 1:29 PM

Which Android seems to ignore that option

559smoke I used to work for astrazenica. Their computer systems ran like dogshit cause al...

potemkinhrOP•6/1/24, 1:31 PM

Most of the health providers host in Azure or Oracle, some on AWS and it's always jank. This will raise some big flags for them as it's out of their control and some data will leak this way inevitably, it's the reason why they pushed for cloud workspace in the first place and this negates it completely.

Hunanbean•6/1/24, 1:32 PM

if i try to user nvidia-settings to render higher res, then output to 1080 viewport, is that the same as DSR?

559smoke I used to work for astrazenica. Their computer systems ran like dogshit cause al...

antheas•6/1/24, 1:32 PM

Where's the hypocrisy

antheas•6/1/24, 1:32 PM

Data governance is what it is

59smoke•6/1/24, 1:32 PM

We trust ms on the desktop but not the server

Mervius•6/1/24, 1:33 PM

If you actually cared about your data you probably wouldn't be using windows

antheas•6/1/24, 1:33 PM

It has to do with where the servers are located

Aantheas Where's the hypocrisy

59smoke•6/1/24, 1:33 PM

I guess your right that's its different. Its just seems weird to not use a more secure os at scale

Mervius•6/1/24, 1:33 PM

not if you don't trust them for other things, at least

MMervius If you actually cared about your data you probably wouldn't be using windows

potemkinhrOP•6/1/24, 1:33 PM

Aaaand that's why we are here in essence

antheas•6/1/24, 1:33 PM

Now cloud providers like azure are doing per country and dedicated deployments

antheas•6/1/24, 1:33 PM

GDPR is no joke as well

Hunanbean•6/1/24, 1:33 PM

MS uses Linux servers. that should say everything that needs to be said (This is from an old conversation and information, but i think still mostly valid)

59smoke•6/1/24, 1:34 PM

we also mostly use web apps anymore. We could stop using windows and still use office

Mervius•6/1/24, 1:34 PM

You can setup windows servers with azure afaik

559smoke we also mostly use web apps anymore. We could stop using windows and still use o...

potemkinhrOP•6/1/24, 1:34 PM

no you can't because broken formatting

antheas•6/1/24, 1:34 PM

Linux desktop implementations lack in security compared to win

antheas•6/1/24, 1:34 PM

You might not believe it

59smoke•6/1/24, 1:35 PM

I guess I have to

antheas•6/1/24, 1:35 PM

Linux can be more secure than win but rn is not

Mervius•6/1/24, 1:35 PM

i mean the os security itself doesn't matter much when you can just social engineer

antheas•6/1/24, 1:35 PM

Nobody sets it up correctly because users don't care

Mervius•6/1/24, 1:35 PM

antheas•6/1/24, 1:36 PM

Standard windows deployments have locked business VPNs, and dual layer data encryption with tpm + passkey

antheas•6/1/24, 1:36 PM

Then the OS itself sandboxes stuff and has things like core isolation and no sudo priciledges

59smoke•6/1/24, 1:36 PM

Someone's going to forget to turn off copilot and it will be a scandal

Hunanbean•6/1/24, 1:36 PM

I have to point out that Encryption means nothing if someone can remotely access your data

antheas•6/1/24, 1:36 PM

Only your IT can do that

antheas•6/1/24, 1:37 PM

Which is also a business feature

antheas•6/1/24, 1:37 PM

Like it or not lmao

antheas•6/1/24, 1:37 PM

It can also remotely wipe and lock the device

Hunanbean•6/1/24, 1:37 PM

well, that is all windows should have ever been, a business OS. the fact that they got into gaming really crossed lines that screwed everything up

antheas•6/1/24, 1:38 PM

There's not a solid Linux IT deployment tool but Linux supports all these features too

59smoke•6/1/24, 1:38 PM

I'm having a hard time reconciling recall cause its advertised as a feature to help tech illiterate people use a computer but a lot of companies would turn it off

antheas•6/1/24, 1:38 PM

There's just no way for IT to cleanly deploy them

antheas•6/1/24, 1:38 PM

I think it would be disabled by default on enterprise deployments

I can confirm it's actually a thing, had to make an investigation for a ticket. Combed through EXIF

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