I don't believe I touched such a setting, but it's possible. I had spent the past 1.5 hours trying t

CCraftidore I don't believe I touched such a setting, but it's possible. I had spent the pas...

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amelia•6/10/24, 1:27 PM

fast startup is enabled by default and to my understanding, when you shut down your computer, it doesn't actually shut it down

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CraftidoreOP•6/10/24, 1:28 PM

That... is very frusterating.

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CraftidoreOP•6/10/24, 1:28 PM

But good to know, thank you

Aamelia fast startup is enabled by default and to my understanding, when you shut down y...

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halva•6/10/24, 2:37 PM

yeah it's basically a hybrid form of actual shutdown and hibernation

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halva•6/10/24, 2:37 PM

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/distinguishing-fast-startup-from-wake-from-hibernation

Distinguishing Fast Startup from Wake-from-Hibernation - Windows dr...

Starting with Windows 8, a fast startup mode is available to start a computer in less time than is typically required for a traditional, cold startup.

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halva•6/10/24, 2:38 PM

technically it's faster than regular shutdown/bootup but it leads to so many random issues that i really struggle to understand why do they have it enabled by default

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ChaiQi•6/10/24, 2:59 PM

Marketing..
A lot of people care a lot about how fast their computer boots up

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legally defined as sound•6/10/24, 3:03 PM

is there a bind for Y2 for the llgo on bazzite?

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Zelaf•6/10/24, 3:19 PM

Is there a fix for the Bazzite installer being too big for the screen?

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Zelaf•6/10/24, 3:20 PM

External monitors won't work on the install screen either

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halva•6/10/24, 3:21 PM

??

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halva•6/10/24, 3:21 PM

unless whatever you're using constantly hits the seccomp filter, it's practically immeasurable

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halva•6/10/24, 3:22 PM

like, there is no performance difference aside from that

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halva•6/10/24, 3:22 PM

have you benchmarked it?

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halva•6/10/24, 3:24 PM

i mean
you can use xfce4term just fine xd

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Kyle Gospo•6/10/24, 3:24 PM

Ptyxis isn't a flatpak

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halva•6/10/24, 3:25 PM

i myself reverted to konsole because i don't like Vte based terminal

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Kyle Gospo•6/10/24, 3:28 PM

Never happening

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Kyle Gospo•6/10/24, 3:29 PM

You can always use Nobara if you want bazzite without the atomic design

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halva•6/10/24, 3:29 PM

it's installed natively

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Kyle Gospo•6/10/24, 3:31 PM

ptyxis doesn't do anything with containers at start

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Kyle Gospo•6/10/24, 3:31 PM

it touches containers via CLI only

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wolfyreload•6/10/24, 3:31 PM

ptyxis opens in under a second for me and this is not good laptop, not seeing the 5 seconds you are seeing

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Kyle Gospo•6/10/24, 3:32 PM

same here, even on my $350 steam deck

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Kyle Gospo•6/10/24, 3:32 PM

kylegospo@daedalus:~$ rpm -qR ptyxis
libadwaita-1.so.0()(64bit)
libadwaita-1.so.0(LIBADWAITA_1_0)(64bit)
libc.so.6()(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.34)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.7)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_ABI_DT_RELR)(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1()(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.3.1)(64bit)
libgio-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libglib-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libgobject-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libgtk-4.so.1()(64bit)
libjson-glib-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
libjson-glib-1.0.so.0(libjson-glib-1.0.so.0)(64bit)
libm.so.6()(64bit)
libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
libpango-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
libportal-gtk4.so.1()(64bit)
libportal.so.1()(64bit)
libvte-2.91-gtk4.so.0()(64bit)
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
rpmlib(FileDigests) <= 4.6.0-1
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
rpmlib(PayloadIsZstd) <= 5.4.18-1
rtld(GNU_HASH)

kylegospo@daedalus:~$ rpm -qR ptyxis
libadwaita-1.so.0()(64bit)
libadwaita-1.so.0(LIBADWAITA_1_0)(64bit)
libc.so.6()(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.34)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.7)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_ABI_DT_RELR)(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1()(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.3.1)(64bit)
libgio-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libglib-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libgobject-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libgtk-4.so.1()(64bit)
libjson-glib-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
libjson-glib-1.0.so.0(libjson-glib-1.0.so.0)(64bit)
libm.so.6()(64bit)
libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
libpango-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
libportal-gtk4.so.1()(64bit)
libportal.so.1()(64bit)
libvte-2.91-gtk4.so.0()(64bit)
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
rpmlib(FileDigests) <= 4.6.0-1
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
rpmlib(PayloadIsZstd) <= 5.4.18-1
rtld(GNU_HASH)

kylegospo@daedalus:~$ rpm -qR ptyxis
libadwaita-1.so.0()(64bit)
libadwaita-1.so.0(LIBADWAITA_1_0)(64bit)
libc.so.6()(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.34)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.7)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_ABI_DT_RELR)(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1()(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.3.1)(64bit)
libgio-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libglib-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libgobject-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libgtk-4.so.1()(64bit)
libjson-glib-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
libjson-glib-1.0.so.0(libjson-glib-1.0.so.0)(64bit)
libm.so.6()(64bit)
libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
libpango-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
libportal-gtk4.so.1()(64bit)
libportal.so.1()(64bit)
libvte-2.91-gtk4.so.0()(64bit)
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
rpmlib(FileDigests) <= 4.6.0-1
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
rpmlib(PayloadIsZstd) <= 5.4.18-1
rtld(GNU_HASH)

kylegospo@daedalus:~$ rpm -qR ptyxis
libadwaita-1.so.0()(64bit)
libadwaita-1.so.0(LIBADWAITA_1_0)(64bit)
libc.so.6()(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.34)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.7)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_ABI_DT_RELR)(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1()(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.3.1)(64bit)
libgio-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libglib-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libgobject-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libgtk-4.so.1()(64bit)
libjson-glib-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
libjson-glib-1.0.so.0(libjson-glib-1.0.so.0)(64bit)
libm.so.6()(64bit)
libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
libpango-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
libportal-gtk4.so.1()(64bit)
libportal.so.1()(64bit)
libvte-2.91-gtk4.so.0()(64bit)
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
rpmlib(FileDigests) <= 4.6.0-1
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
rpmlib(PayloadIsZstd) <= 5.4.18-1
rtld(GNU_HASH)

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Kyle Gospo•6/10/24, 3:32 PM

kylegospo@daedalus:~$ rpm -qR gnome-terminal
dbus
glib2(x86-64) >= 2.52.0
gsettings-desktop-schemas
gtk3(x86-64) >= 3.24.0
libX11.so.6()(64bit)
libc.so.6()(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.28)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3.2)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3.4)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.34)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_ABI_DT_RELR)(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1()(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)(64bit)
libgdk-3.so.0()(64bit)
libgio-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libglib-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libgobject-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libgtk-3.so.0()(64bit)
libhandy(x86-64) >= 1.6.0
libhandy-1.so.0()(64bit)
libhandy-1.so.0(LIBHANDY_1_0)(64bit)
libpango-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
libstdc++.so.6()(64bit)
libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3)(64bit)
libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.15)(64bit)
libuuid.so.1()(64bit)
libuuid.so.1(UUID_1.0)(64bit)
libvte-2.91.so.0()(64bit)
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
rpmlib(FileDigests) <= 4.6.0-1
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
rpmlib(PayloadIsZstd) <= 5.4.18-1
rtld(GNU_HASH)
vte291(x86-64) >= 0.74.0

kylegospo@daedalus:~$ rpm -qR gnome-terminal
dbus
glib2(x86-64) >= 2.52.0
gsettings-desktop-schemas
gtk3(x86-64) >= 3.24.0
libX11.so.6()(64bit)
libc.so.6()(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.28)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3.2)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3.4)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.34)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_ABI_DT_RELR)(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1()(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)(64bit)
libgdk-3.so.0()(64bit)
libgio-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libglib-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libgobject-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libgtk-3.so.0()(64bit)
libhandy(x86-64) >= 1.6.0
libhandy-1.so.0()(64bit)
libhandy-1.so.0(LIBHANDY_1_0)(64bit)
libpango-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
libstdc++.so.6()(64bit)
libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3)(64bit)
libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.15)(64bit)
libuuid.so.1()(64bit)
libuuid.so.1(UUID_1.0)(64bit)
libvte-2.91.so.0()(64bit)
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
rpmlib(FileDigests) <= 4.6.0-1
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
rpmlib(PayloadIsZstd) <= 5.4.18-1
rtld(GNU_HASH)
vte291(x86-64) >= 0.74.0

kylegospo@daedalus:~$ rpm -qR gnome-terminal
dbus
glib2(x86-64) >= 2.52.0
gsettings-desktop-schemas
gtk3(x86-64) >= 3.24.0
libX11.so.6()(64bit)
libc.so.6()(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.28)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3.2)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3.4)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.34)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_ABI_DT_RELR)(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1()(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)(64bit)
libgdk-3.so.0()(64bit)
libgio-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libglib-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libgobject-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libgtk-3.so.0()(64bit)
libhandy(x86-64) >= 1.6.0
libhandy-1.so.0()(64bit)
libhandy-1.so.0(LIBHANDY_1_0)(64bit)
libpango-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
libstdc++.so.6()(64bit)
libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3)(64bit)
libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.15)(64bit)
libuuid.so.1()(64bit)
libuuid.so.1(UUID_1.0)(64bit)
libvte-2.91.so.0()(64bit)
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
rpmlib(FileDigests) <= 4.6.0-1
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
rpmlib(PayloadIsZstd) <= 5.4.18-1
rtld(GNU_HASH)
vte291(x86-64) >= 0.74.0

kylegospo@daedalus:~$ rpm -qR gnome-terminal
dbus
glib2(x86-64) >= 2.52.0
gsettings-desktop-schemas
gtk3(x86-64) >= 3.24.0
libX11.so.6()(64bit)
libc.so.6()(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.28)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3.2)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3.4)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.34)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4)(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_ABI_DT_RELR)(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1()(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)(64bit)
libgdk-3.so.0()(64bit)
libgio-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libglib-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libgobject-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
libgtk-3.so.0()(64bit)
libhandy(x86-64) >= 1.6.0
libhandy-1.so.0()(64bit)
libhandy-1.so.0(LIBHANDY_1_0)(64bit)
libpango-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
libstdc++.so.6()(64bit)
libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3)(64bit)
libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.15)(64bit)
libuuid.so.1()(64bit)
libuuid.so.1(UUID_1.0)(64bit)
libvte-2.91.so.0()(64bit)
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
rpmlib(FileDigests) <= 4.6.0-1
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
rpmlib(PayloadIsZstd) <= 5.4.18-1
rtld(GNU_HASH)
vte291(x86-64) >= 0.74.0

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Kyle Gospo•6/10/24, 3:32 PM

less dependencies than gnome terminal

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Kyle Gospo•6/10/24, 3:34 PM

oh holy shit, Mission Center has services now

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Kyle Gospo•6/10/24, 3:34 PM

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Kyle Gospo•6/10/24, 3:34 PM

awesome

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ChaiQi•6/10/24, 3:34 PM

Nice

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halva•6/10/24, 3:35 PM

they're not lmao

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halva•6/10/24, 3:35 PM

the entire internet infrastructure is containerized these days

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halva•6/10/24, 3:35 PM

like if you think they're somehow slow, tell that to literally every tech company in existence at this poy

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ChaiQi•6/10/24, 3:36 PM

Specifically the opposite of how containers work. You are indicating that you lied when you said you work with them every day professionally

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Kyle Gospo•6/10/24, 3:36 PM

the reason for using it on the desktop is I can run any distro's software I want. I can create environments for development and delete them without care or concern, and I can test new software (including newer versions of Mesa) in seconds

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Kyle Gospo•6/10/24, 3:37 PM

The entire universal blue project is about this

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Kyle Gospo•6/10/24, 3:37 PM

coming here to ask us to change into a traditional distro is pointless

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Kyle Gospo•6/10/24, 3:37 PM

it's like asking a fish to breathe air

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halva•6/10/24, 3:37 PM

getting around dependency issues? sandboxing apps so they can't access what they shouldn't? xd

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Kyle Gospo•6/10/24, 3:38 PM

Ok, here's how this works

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Kyle Gospo•6/10/24, 3:38 PM

one more claim like this without a benchmark and I issue a permanent ban

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ChaiQi•6/10/24, 3:38 PM

This is the 54th time you have mentioned Arch by name in two weeks on this non-Arch-related server. I have seen the exact same messages with baseless claims against Bazzite multiple times now

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halva•6/10/24, 3:38 PM

if the costs for these actual real life improvements is "there's a barely measurable performance difference", this is a very practical tradeoff

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halva•6/10/24, 3:38 PM

xd

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wolfyreload•6/10/24, 3:40 PM

Looks like they improved rpm-ostree I can now see that it's doing something

Wwolfyreload Looks like they improved rpm-ostree I can now see that it's doing something 🙂

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Kyle Gospo•6/10/24, 3:40 PM

yeah, very recent change

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Kyle Gospo•6/10/24, 3:40 PM

some more incoming too

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wolfyreload•6/10/24, 3:41 PM

Hopefully better deltas support, that would be amazing

Wwolfyreload Hopefully better deltas support, that would be amazing

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Kyle Gospo•6/10/24, 3:41 PM

that's coming

I don't believe I touched such a setting, but it's possible. I had spent the past 1.5 hours trying t

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