Gnome fails both last ones

Swizzler•6/18/24, 5:49 AM

what situation do you need multiple DEs? a work/home thingy? that's the only thing I can think of that would warrant something like that, and at that point just dual boot or something

KKasher_CS Gnome fails both last ones

Kyle Gospo•6/18/24, 5:50 AM

GNOME gets grandfathered in, the little bastard child

KKasher_CS Gnome fails both last ones

HikariKnight•6/18/24, 5:50 AM

its a requirement for any new DEs

Kasher_CSOP•6/18/24, 5:50 AM

Lucky gnome

HikariKnight•6/18/24, 5:50 AM

prays for cosmic to add all those

HikariKnight•6/18/24, 5:50 AM

Kyle Gospo•6/18/24, 5:50 AM

Cosmic is a definite target after Budgie

Kyle Gospo•6/18/24, 5:50 AM

I'm sure they will

HikariKnight•6/18/24, 5:50 AM

same

HikariKnight•6/18/24, 5:51 AM

but they wont be considered for bazzite without those anyway

KKyle Gospo without those, no-go.

matt_schwartz•6/18/24, 5:51 AM

Also not be banned from contributing to like half of the Linux public repositories :hehehe:

Kasher_CSOP•6/18/24, 5:52 AM

Also, it doesn't seem like a big problem rebasing, at least imo, but there may be stuff I don't know of

KKasher_CS Also, it doesn't seem like a big problem rebasing, at least imo, but there may b...

Kyle Gospo•6/18/24, 5:52 AM

rebasing we don't support because dotfiles can break stuff between KDE & GNOME

Kyle Gospo•6/18/24, 5:52 AM

it can be done, especially if you make a new user

Kasher_CSOP•6/18/24, 5:53 AM

To me it looks like it breaks 5 theme settings which are easily fixed

KKasher_CS To me it looks like it breaks 5 theme settings which are easily fixed

HikariKnight•6/18/24, 5:54 AM

it can cause other weird issues which you cannot change through simple settings changes.

KKyle Gospo You should be able to rebase to Bazzite after installing

Swizzler•6/18/24, 5:54 AM

no dice, fedora 38 installer fails in the same way that the bazzite one does, black screen with a keyboard icon in the bottom right

HHikariKnight it can cause other weird issues which you cannot change through simple settings ...

Kasher_CSOP•6/18/24, 5:54 AM

Ah, like what?

Kyle Gospo•6/18/24, 6:00 AM

exhibit is so damn nice

HikariKnight•6/18/24, 6:01 AM

an old issue back when i started using linux if you had used kde and gnome (but this is ages ago back when kde4 existed)
skype and all QT or KDE apps would get 2 px font on 1 DE but not the other even though your settings said 8px or idk 22px, this would persist even if you completely removed the other DE, some gnome apps would just not work properly or be slow.

otherwise issues that can still happen:
settings for KDE or GNOME will not always match what settings actually say they should be in some cases.

and if you removed your previous DE sometimes the system would still try open files in the uninstalled applications because they were set as default (luckily this is an easy fix but a new user wont necessarily understand that) and not updated.

essentially if you rebase between DEs you can end up with issues that would require manual fixing and we are not interested in supporting that.

Kasher_CSOP•6/18/24, 6:04 AM

Ah yeah you needed the gsettings not the graphical settings

HHikariKnight an old issue back when i started using linux if you had used kde and gnome (but ...

Switches•6/18/24, 6:16 AM

Now your making me feel old... I remember that issue. Also seem to remember it appearing towards the end of KDE3 when they did a QT upgrade I think it was (may have been 4 beta though, I'm old lol)

SSwitches Now your making me feel old... I remember that issue. Also seem to remember it a...

HikariKnight•6/18/24, 6:18 AM

shows you how long i used linux, since i used kde3 on backtrack (predecessor to kali linux) because the weird ass wifi card i had would work ootb there.

remember MADWIFI!!?
certainly made me mad

Switches•6/18/24, 6:20 AM

there's a thing I haven't heard in years... and yes I think MADWIFI was well named it infuriated the hell out of me and most of my colleagues/friends at the time

HikariKnight•6/18/24, 6:20 AM

yeah so i just used backtrack because cool wallpaper and holy crap my wifi works!

HikariKnight•6/18/24, 6:20 AM

Switches•6/18/24, 6:21 AM

lol think I was prob still on Slack or Gentoo back then... how things have changed (for the better in the most part).

HikariKnight•6/18/24, 6:21 AM

i was introduced to debian back in middle school but i didnt switch myself until high school

HikariKnight•6/18/24, 6:22 AM

forgot if it was lenny, sarge or etch, but i remember the "new upcoming" release was supposed to be very big and important

Switches•6/18/24, 6:22 AM

Hmm was kinda of working by the time the whole "linux" thing came about was a UNIX user at the time though :p

Switches•6/18/24, 6:24 AM

Oh and started on basically BSD and OS/2 Warp >.> (yes I'm 50 this year lol)

HikariKnight•6/18/24, 6:24 AM

and back when i changed to linux it was ubuntu 8.10 i switched to

Switches•6/18/24, 6:25 AM

good choice for a beginner tbh, I still think at times it is but with the new "Cloud native" stuff it's becoming harder to recommend it for ease of use imo

matt_schwartz•6/18/24, 6:27 AM

ya’ll knew what Linux was in grade school???

Switches•6/18/24, 6:27 AM

Think some who were technically minded did (or the average rebel lol)

HikariKnight•6/18/24, 6:27 AM

yes i did

Kasher_CSOP•6/18/24, 6:39 AM

I first seriously used Linux in early 2016 I think, I installed fedora and installed nvidia drivers from the .run file

Sean (SuperRiderTH)•6/18/24, 6:48 AM

I remember when Steam launched on Linux back in 2013 and I was so excited. Games were barely functional back then, but we were having fun

Kasher_CSOP•6/18/24, 6:51 AM

I got a Kernel update and was confused why gdm didn't load

Kasher_CSOP•6/18/24, 6:51 AM

I fixed it tho

SSean (SuperRiderTH)I remember when Steam launched on Linux back in 2013 and I was so excited. Games...

HikariKnight•6/18/24, 6:53 AM

Sean (SuperRiderTH)•6/18/24, 6:57 AM

I was using Ubuntu on a couple machines for the longest time, the 11-15 releases. I still needed Windows though for quite a few things. I hopped between a few things like Fedora and elementaryOS. Honestly still really like elementary, I really enjoy Pantheon. I was using Antergos for a long while until they stopped existing. Then I moved to Endeavor and Arch for a bit, a bit of openSUSE Tumbleweed, and then to Fedora and Nobara, until 1.0 of Bazzite happened and now I live here.

Bazzite just has pretty much every tweak and change I would personally make to distros, and I don't have to worry about things exploding on a rolling release. I'll take the minor issues and I can test new things because I can easily rollback my system if things are funky.

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Sean (SuperRiderTH)•6/18/24, 6:58 AM

Me too me too lmao

HikariKnight•6/18/24, 7:01 AM

for me i have been on
debian --> ubuntu 8.10 - 19.10 (yes this was a singular install without reinstalls, just migrations to new disks using

dd

dd

) --> pop os 20.04 --> bazzite

on work systems it has been
debian --> centos --> debian/ubuntu --> centos --> debian/ubuntu --> proxmox with whatever :clueless:

HikariKnight•6/18/24, 7:01 AM

my home folder had crap from gnome2, gnome3 and unity

Sean (SuperRiderTH)•6/18/24, 7:02 AM

I wish canonical kept unity alive, I really liked it. But they have sure made some decisions