@Noel Bootc thoughts: Since that command is necessary to have an F40 image install. And it has to

@Noel

Bootc thoughts:

Since that command is necessary to have an F40 image install. And it has to be done after any initramfs change as well. Should we only have it on downstream issues until Anaconda is fixed up to not need that command?

MM2 @Noel Bootc thoughts: Since that command is necessary to have an F40 image in...

Noel•6/20/24, 1:46 PM

It was my understanding that Anaconda wants to ultimately move to using bootc to deploy images at some point.

Noel•6/20/24, 1:46 PM

when that is happening is up in the air currently.

M2OP•6/20/24, 1:47 PM

So until then, have bootc only on downstream images to avoid the blow up. Since we control those

Noel•6/20/24, 1:47 PM

Instead of the main images?

Noel•6/20/24, 1:47 PM

yeah, that might be safest.

M2OP•6/20/24, 1:47 PM

Yeah

M2OP•6/20/24, 1:49 PM

Like we probably should have documentation for it... But I can see it as a massive footgun for anyone making their own image. So they should opt into bootc

MM2 @Noel Bootc thoughts: Since that command is necessary to have an F40 image in...

xyny•6/20/24, 1:58 PM

what's "that command" if i may ask?

RoyalOughtness•6/20/24, 4:23 PM

damn. i thought plasma 6.1 was going to land today.

RoyalOughtness•6/20/24, 4:23 PM

tomorrow i guess

RoyalOughtness•6/20/24, 4:24 PM

Robotta•6/20/24, 4:40 PM

Huh

Robotta•6/20/24, 4:40 PM

I already have it and I'm using regular fedora kinoite

RRobotta I already have it and I'm using regular fedora kinoite

RoyalOughtness•6/20/24, 4:40 PM

that makes sense

RoyalOughtness•6/20/24, 4:41 PM

ublue doesn't use the "official builds" as upstream

RoyalOughtness•6/20/24, 4:41 PM

this is the build log im looking at https://gitlab.com/fedora/ostree/ci-test/-/jobs/7141374747

GitLab

build: [kinoite] (#7141374747) · Jobs · fedora / Fedora Atomic Desk...

Experimental project. See details in the README. Expect rebase and push --force.

RRoyalOughtness this is the build log im looking at https://gitlab.com/fedora/ostree/ci-test/-/j...

Robotta•6/20/24, 4:43 PM

Well, 6.1 does need some extra testing I'll say

Robotta•6/20/24, 4:43 PM

It released a little too early

RRobotta It released a little too early

RoyalOughtness•6/20/24, 4:44 PM

what bugs are you seeing?

Robotta•6/20/24, 4:44 PM

https://discord.com/channels/1072614816579063828/1074422586894712912/1253389308383985746

Robotta•6/20/24, 4:45 PM

Another bug and so far the last one is that windows do not maximize properly every time

Robotta•6/20/24, 4:45 PM

Sometimes they cover the full screen while others act like the panel is acting like a floating dock

Robotta•6/20/24, 4:45 PM

This could also be a Nvidia 555 bug tho

Xxyny what's "that command" if i may ask?

M2OP•6/20/24, 5:43 PM

/usr/bin/bootupctl backend generate-update-metadata/usr/bin/bootupctl backend generate-update-metadata

M2OP•6/20/24, 5:43 PM

This will break a 39 build

M2OP•6/20/24, 5:43 PM

it also needs the unreleased version of Jason's action

Ffiftydinar Seems like xpad in missing in Fedora images since 6.9 kernel got in https://www....

fiftydinar•6/20/24, 6:34 PM

Nvm, it's the user error (or dnf autoremove error):

Edit 2: I found the solution. I ran dnf autoremove last week, which deleted the kernel-modules-extra package, that includes xpad. After installing it once more, the controller is working again. I didn't know dnf autoremove could uninstall important packages, I will be more careful when running it in the future.

Edit 2: I found the solution. I ran dnf autoremove last week, which deleted the kernel-modules-extra package, that includes xpad. After installing it once more, the controller is working again. I didn't know dnf autoremove could uninstall important packages, I will be more careful when running it in the future.

antheas•6/20/24, 6:35 PM

how do you remove a built in kernel module

matt_schwartz•6/20/24, 6:35 PM

:facepalm: another autoremove foot gun moment, what a shocker

PragmaticMero•6/20/24, 10:49 PM

does anyone know how to delete a package on silverblue using rpm-ostree? I want to delete the packages "nano" and "nano-default-editor"

Checking out tree fa68d62... done
Resolving dependencies... done
error: Could not depsolve transaction; 1 problem detected:
 Problem: package default-editor-7.2-7.fc40.noarch from @System requires system-default-editor, but none of the providers can be installed
  - conflicting requests

Checking out tree fa68d62... done
Resolving dependencies... done
error: Could not depsolve transaction; 1 problem detected:
 Problem: package default-editor-7.2-7.fc40.noarch from @System requires system-default-editor, but none of the providers can be installed
  - conflicting requests

override remove doesn't have parameters so....... im stuck and there's no info online, what can I do.

PPragmaticMero does anyone know how to delete a package on silverblue using rpm-ostree? I want ...

Kyle Gospo•6/20/24, 10:49 PM

But why

PragmaticMero•6/20/24, 10:49 PM

debloating purposes

PragmaticMero•6/20/24, 10:49 PM

also experimenting

PPragmaticMero debloating purposes

Kyle Gospo•6/20/24, 10:49 PM

You're making your image larger, quite literally shooting yourself in the foot

Kyle Gospo•6/20/24, 10:50 PM

Uninstalling a package that's in a base layer creates a new layer with instructions necessary to remove all of the files

PragmaticMero•6/20/24, 10:50 PM

I read that it doesn't remove the application from disk

Kyle Gospo•6/20/24, 10:50 PM

It doesn't delete any part of the package you removed

Kyle Gospo•6/20/24, 10:50 PM

And it can also cause updates to break

PragmaticMero•6/20/24, 10:50 PM

yeah... huh.... so I'm stuck?

PPragmaticMero yeah... huh.... so I'm stuck?

Kyle Gospo•6/20/24, 10:50 PM

Yeah, I wouldn't do what you're doing

PragmaticMero•6/20/24, 10:51 PM

well... fedora only weighs 8GiB anyways... i guess I

PragmaticMero•6/20/24, 10:51 PM

I'll delete some other flatpak packages that I don't need

PragmaticMero•6/20/24, 10:52 PM

also before I removed the flatpak runtine for Fedora it said that it used 4GiB, after I removed it i ran the command

df -h

df -h

and only freed 1GiB of space

PragmaticMero•6/20/24, 10:53 PM

what does the Fedora flatpak runtime has on it? gnome and kde runtimes bundled into one?

PragmaticMero•6/20/24, 10:53 PM

I'm confused.

antheas•6/20/24, 11:15 PM

turns out the podman PR on the bootc repo is busted

antheas•6/20/24, 11:15 PM

i was like he tested it but not with bazzite

antheas•6/20/24, 11:16 PM

lots of little bugs in there

antheas•6/20/24, 11:16 PM

i think i mostly figured it out tho

antheas•6/20/24, 11:16 PM

if it doesnt boot now ima kms

Edit 2: I found the solution. I ran dnf autoremove last week, which deleted the kernel-modules-extra package, that includes xpad. After installing it once more, the controller is working again. I didn't know dnf autoremove could uninstall important packages, I will be more careful when running it in the future.

Checking out tree fa68d62... done Resolving dependencies... done error: Could not depsolve transaction; 1 problem detected: Problem: package default-editor-7.2-7.fc40.noarch from @System requires system-default-editor, but none of the providers can be installed - conflicting requests

@Noel Bootc thoughts: Since that command is necessary to have an F40 image install. And it has to

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