thanks, mind pinging me when you have something ready I can copy paste for support?

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skoogeer•6/21/24, 10:13 PM

I understand your concerns, and I want to clarify a few points:

Using our service is completely optional. If the new API key requirement doesn't work for you, you're free to use an alternative.
The API will remain free. The key simply helps us manage usage and ensure sustainability.
We aim to be transparent, but can't always pre-announce changes publicly for competitive reasons. However, we commit to giving registered users ample notice of any major changes impacting their implementation.
Signing up for a key now won't impact your current functionality. If any changes are necessary in the future, we'll work with you to ensure a smooth transition.

Our goal is to balance providing a useful free service with keeping our business viable. API keys are a step towards that. I appreciate your feedback as we navigate this change. Please let me know if you have any other concerns.

Ddave thanks, mind pinging me when you have something ready I can copy paste for suppo...

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skoogeer•6/21/24, 10:14 PM

Hi Dave. Sorry, I thought I pasted something above. Just indicate you are a Cloudflare Workers customer and you would like an API key. The form collects your name and email address so that we can follow up with the necessary credentials. My team is on the lookout for these submissions.

Sskoogeer I understand your concerns, and I want to clarify a few points: 1. Using our se...

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James•6/21/24, 10:16 PM

To confirm, with this quote in your article:

In exchange for being an early user, you will receive a significantly discounted price when the improved commercial service launches later this year.

This new "commercial service" won't replace the free service, and folks will be able to continue using that if they get an API key?

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James•6/21/24, 10:17 PM

I don't think anyone here is against getting an API key - that's standard practice. There's just lots of concerns about reliability, deprecation, etc. based on previous experience and communication here.

Sskoogeer Hi Dave. Sorry, I thought I pasted something above. Just indicate you are a Clou...

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daveOP•6/21/24, 10:18 PM

alright, I sent

Cloudflare Workers MailChannels developer/user, we'd like a free API key please.

Cloudflare Workers MailChannels developer/user, we'd like a free API key please.

Cloudflare Workers MailChannels developer/user, we'd like a free API key please.

Cloudflare Workers MailChannels developer/user, we'd like a free API key please..

JJames To confirm, with this quote in your article: > In exchange for being an early us...

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daveOP•6/21/24, 10:18 PM

oh wait, just discounted?! I thought there was gonna be a free tier

Ddave oh wait, just discounted?! I thought there was gonna be a free tier

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James•6/21/24, 10:19 PM

that's where the confusion is and still hasn't really been clarified. The first paragraph in https://support.mailchannels.com/hc/en-us/articles/26814255454093-End-of-Life-Notice-Cloudflare-Workers seems to contradict itself.

JJames that's where the confusion is and still hasn't really been clarified. The first ...

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daveOP•6/21/24, 10:24 PM

9 days of notice is crazy either way imo

Ddave 9 days of notice is crazy either way imo

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James•6/21/24, 10:25 PM

yeah I would imagine most people have migrated away at this point, as per advice of lots of folks in this server and the community

JJames yeah I would imagine most people have migrated away at this point, as per advice...

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daveOP•6/21/24, 10:26 PM

Even if they extend it to 9 years, it's a super bad idea to keep doing business with a company that thought 9 days of notice would be okay to begin with.

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James•6/21/24, 10:26 PM

Also another question @skoogeer after you've covered the previous, in that article you include:

MailChannels plans to launch a more capable email delivery API in the future, complete with delivery tracking features, DKIM-key hosting, generative-AI delivery optimization, and more.

Is this going to include basic domain sender verification this time?

JJames Also another question @skoogeer after you've covered the previous, in that artic...

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daveOP•6/21/24, 10:36 PM

that's a feature to not have! ;P

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daveOP•6/21/24, 11:07 PM

do I need to set

version_metadata

version_metadata

version_metadata

version_metadata for each of my envs, or is the key enough to have in the root just once?

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daveOP•6/21/24, 11:09 PM

answer, I need it for each env

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daveOP•6/21/24, 11:17 PM

@Unsmart general-discussions

I found a good solution for this (Backblaze B2 erroring with 503, 429, 500, etc):

Setup: I set up two buckets, one in us-east and one in us-west. Then, I set up two bidirectional cloud replication rules.

In my Worker, I try to upload to the us-east bucket first, and flip flop between us-west and us-east for repeated attempts until it works.

Eventually, both buckets will contain 1:1 of the same data, even when there's an outage too in one region.

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kindaraffy•6/22/24, 10:24 AM

Hi, you guys might want to extend the cf docs on worker RPC to include the utility type

InstanceType

InstanceType

InstanceType

InstanceType. It automatically types your RPC classes so you could use your RPC methods in other workers with type-safety.

https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/runtime-apis/rpc/

An example:

import { RpcTarget, WorkerEntrypoint } from 'cloudflare:workers';

class Counter extends RpcTarget {
    #value = 0;

    increment(amount: number = 1) {
        this.#value += amount;
        return this.#value;
    }

    get value() {
        return this.#value;
    }
}

export class CounterService extends WorkerEntrypoint {
    async newCounter() {
        return new Counter();
    }
}

export type CounterServiceStub = InstanceType<typeof CounterService>;

import { RpcTarget, WorkerEntrypoint } from 'cloudflare:workers';

class Counter extends RpcTarget {
    #value = 0;

    increment(amount: number = 1) {
        this.#value += amount;
        return this.#value;
    }

    get value() {
        return this.#value;
    }
}

export class CounterService extends WorkerEntrypoint {
    async newCounter() {
        return new Counter();
    }
}

export type CounterServiceStub = InstanceType<typeof CounterService>;

import { RpcTarget, WorkerEntrypoint } from 'cloudflare:workers';

class Counter extends RpcTarget {
    #value = 0;

    increment(amount: number = 1) {
        this.#value += amount;
        return this.#value;
    }

    get value() {
        return this.#value;
    }
}

export class CounterService extends WorkerEntrypoint {
    async newCounter() {
        return new Counter();
    }
}

export type CounterServiceStub = InstanceType<typeof CounterService>;

import { RpcTarget, WorkerEntrypoint } from 'cloudflare:workers';

class Counter extends RpcTarget {
    #value = 0;

    increment(amount: number = 1) {
        this.#value += amount;
        return this.#value;
    }

    get value() {
        return this.#value;
    }
}

export class CounterService extends WorkerEntrypoint {
    async newCounter() {
        return new Counter();
    }
}

export type CounterServiceStub = InstanceType<typeof CounterService>;

Then, use the CounterServiceStub in your RPC client for type-checked method signatures for the downstream worker you are calling.

Cloudflare Docs

Remote-procedure call (RPC) · Cloudflare Workers docs

The built-in, JavaScript-native RPC system built into Workers and Durable Objects.

Kkindaraffy Hi, you guys might want to extend the cf docs on worker RPC to include the utili...

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kian•6/22/24, 6:28 PM

That is what the

Service

Service

Service

Service and

DurableObjectNamespace

DurableObjectNamespace

DurableObjectNamespace

DurableObjectNamespace generic types do, isn't it?

https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/runtime-apis/rpc/typescript/

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johtso•6/22/24, 6:33 PM

What's up with not being able to deploy workers with

logpush = true

logpush = true

logpush = true

logpush = true when you're a member of another account? https://github.com/cloudflare/workers-sdk/issues/2991

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johtso•6/22/24, 6:33 PM

isn't this an issue that loads of people should be bumping into? i'm confused as to why the issue was closed

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johtso•6/22/24, 6:33 PM

not sure how removing logpush from your config is a solution

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kian•6/22/24, 6:37 PM

If you're having issues with Logpush causing API errors then I'd recommend opening a new issue and just reference that one since it's more than a year old. Unless your account isn't able to use Logpush, it shouldn't cause errors.

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Harris•6/22/24, 6:39 PM

Has anyone encountered a situation where trying to listen to the live log stream of a durable object, just causes all websocket connections to fail?

I can't have my game clients connect to the durable object and listen to live logs at the same time and it makes debugging quite hard

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Harris•6/22/24, 6:39 PM

I get

{
      "name": "Error",
      "message": "Subrequest depth limit exceeded. This request recursed through Workers too many times. This can happen e.g. if you have a Worker or Durable Object that calls other Workers or objects recursively.",
      "timestamp": 1719081484425
    }

{
      "name": "Error",
      "message": "Subrequest depth limit exceeded. This request recursed through Workers too many times. This can happen e.g. if you have a Worker or Durable Object that calls other Workers or objects recursively.",
      "timestamp": 1719081484425
    }

{
      "name": "Error",
      "message": "Subrequest depth limit exceeded. This request recursed through Workers too many times. This can happen e.g. if you have a Worker or Durable Object that calls other Workers or objects recursively.",
      "timestamp": 1719081484425
    }

{
      "name": "Error",
      "message": "Subrequest depth limit exceeded. This request recursed through Workers too many times. This can happen e.g. if you have a Worker or Durable Object that calls other Workers or objects recursively.",
      "timestamp": 1719081484425
    }

no matter what I do, but only when I try to listen to live logs

edit: https://community.cloudflare.com/t/worker-throwing-recursion-error-when-calling-a-durable-object-even-though-there-is/640749/4 i see, is an error with smart mode

Jjohtso What's up with not being able to deploy workers with `logpush = true` when you'r...

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Walshy•6/22/24, 6:42 PM

What's the error you hit?

WWalshy What's the error you hit?

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johtso•6/22/24, 6:42 PM

workers.api.error.unauthorized [code: 10023]

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Walshy•6/22/24, 6:43 PM

Sounds like that account doesn't have workers paid

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johtso•6/22/24, 6:43 PM

ooooo

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johtso•6/22/24, 6:43 PM

J

johtso•6/22/24, 6:43 PM

friendly error messages would be pretty awesome

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Walshy•6/22/24, 6:44 PM

Workers errors are not always the clearest today :blobsweats:
cc: @tanushree │ Workers PM it'd be good to do an error audit at some point

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johtso•6/22/24, 7:05 PM

oof, "Can't read from request stream after response has been sent." only seemed to happen when deployed, not when running locally

J

johtso•6/22/24, 7:05 PM

I guess it's a wrangler inconsistency

J

johtso•6/22/24, 9:25 PM

does this look right for forking a request to two separate endpoints?

  const [body, body2] = request.body.tee()
  const result = await Promise.allSettled([
    fetch(url1, { method: request.method, headers: request.headers, body: body }),
    fetch(url2, { method: request.method, headers: request.headers, body: body2 })
  ])

  const [body, body2] = request.body.tee()
  const result = await Promise.allSettled([
    fetch(url1, { method: request.method, headers: request.headers, body: body }),
    fetch(url2, { method: request.method, headers: request.headers, body: body2 })
  ])

  const [body, body2] = request.body.tee()
  const result = await Promise.allSettled([
    fetch(url1, { method: request.method, headers: request.headers, body: body }),
    fetch(url2, { method: request.method, headers: request.headers, body: body2 })
  ])

  const [body, body2] = request.body.tee()
  const result = await Promise.allSettled([
    fetch(url1, { method: request.method, headers: request.headers, body: body }),
    fetch(url2, { method: request.method, headers: request.headers, body: body2 })
  ])

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johtso•6/22/24, 9:34 PM

hmm strange, so I'm forwarding the request to another workers.dev url, but I'm getting a 404

J

johtso•6/22/24, 9:34 PM

it works fine if I make the request directly to that url

J

johtso•6/22/24, 9:42 PM

oh right.. it's a workers limitation

J

johtso•6/22/24, 10:06 PM

so I think this is what I need to do then

  const [body, body2] = request.body.tee()
  const result = await Promise.allSettled([
    env.MY_SERVICE.fetch(new Request(request, { body })),
    fetch(url2, { method: request.method, headers: request.headers, body: body2 })
  ])

  const [body, body2] = request.body.tee()
  const result = await Promise.allSettled([
    env.MY_SERVICE.fetch(new Request(request, { body })),
    fetch(url2, { method: request.method, headers: request.headers, body: body2 })
  ])

  const [body, body2] = request.body.tee()
  const result = await Promise.allSettled([
    env.MY_SERVICE.fetch(new Request(request, { body })),
    fetch(url2, { method: request.method, headers: request.headers, body: body2 })
  ])

  const [body, body2] = request.body.tee()
  const result = await Promise.allSettled([
    env.MY_SERVICE.fetch(new Request(request, { body })),
    fetch(url2, { method: request.method, headers: request.headers, body: body2 })
  ])

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Elektra•6/23/24, 5:23 AM

Hi everyone... is anyone implementing vertex ai in their cloudflare worker?

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Elektra•6/23/24, 5:24 AM

How are you working with authentication?

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Silent•6/23/24, 8:48 AM

I need to store a simple kv value but i dont really want to use workers KV since its only going to be used internally. My main storage is R2 but if i use it for this i will be doubling my A/B operations. Any other solutions or should i use r2?

SSilent I need to store a simple kv value but i dont really want to use workers KV since...

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johtso•6/23/24, 9:02 AM

Why do you not want to use kv?

J

johtso•6/23/24, 9:02 AM

I don't really understand your reason

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Silent•6/23/24, 9:42 AM

Kv is eventually consistent

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Furina de Fontaine!!!•6/23/24, 10:37 AM

Is 10ms cpu time enough for requests to apis (lets say discord)?

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Furina de Fontaine!!!•6/23/24, 10:37 AM

For the free plan

SSilent Kv is eventually consistent

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johtso•6/23/24, 12:12 PM

d1?

J

johtso•6/23/24, 12:13 PM

is there any reason why a netlify rewrite to a cloudflare worker might not work?

/* https://my-worker.my-account.workers.dev/:splat 200

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johtso•6/23/24, 12:13 PM

doing the same thing but to something like webhook.site works fine

FFurina de Fontaine!!!Is 10ms cpu time enough for requests to apis (lets say discord)?

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AngusMa•6/23/24, 1:48 PM

I think web requests waiting time aren’t counted in 10ms. In my case, I have two workers that make requests to web APIs and they work fine.

AAngusMa I think web requests waiting time aren’t counted in 10ms. In my case, I have two...

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Furina de Fontaine!!!•6/23/24, 1:50 PM

Im on free tier. So to confirm api requests arent counted as cpu time right? Also could you tell me about your workers, like how frequently are they called and how long do they take, what they do (as generally)

thanks, mind pinging me when you have something ready I can copy paste for support?

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