In 20 days I went from position #1577 to #1524, I don't think more than 50 Rhinos were delivered in
In 20 days I went from position #1577 to #1524, I don't think more than 50 Rhinos were delivered in this time.....
BI moved up almost 200 positions, purely from cancellations.
At a time where the cue was much shorter.
He who waits wins
At a time where the cue was much shorter.
He who waits wins
DNope, there was an update of the list few days ago which brought me down 50ish places
V:package: 
RHINO #0598 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0598 Has Shipped!
T@walmis r u on now?
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SI was a little concerned in the beginning as well. But actually i think that the Rhino is and will remain the FFB-base that offers the most awesome and sophisticated effects. Looking at the moza software for example there is nothing but very basic FFB effects in place.
And one advantage no industrial produced base will be able to offer:
Easy and quick reproduction of replacementparts, modability and not to forget "awesomeness".
And over that one should not forget that there already was a bigger player that offered industrial produced base - brunner. And we all know that the Rhino is far superior.
And one advantage no industrial produced base will be able to offer:
Easy and quick reproduction of replacementparts, modability and not to forget "awesomeness".
And over that one should not forget that there already was a bigger player that offered industrial produced base - brunner. And we all know that the Rhino is far superior.
FI am sure the list will get shorter once the other FFB bases are on the market
BAye, the easily sourced parts and powerful software options are definitely a plus these new ones are unlikely to match.
But this is also not for everyone, so if they can get a nice 80% experience straight out of the box that will do well.
I've even met those who consider the options and software for the virpil devices as to much to handle.
The prediction I'm going to make though is Moza is going to do very well.
Simply because they are being sold locally alongside thrustmaster.
TM on the other hand is going to struggle.
Especially now that they have competition so far ahead technically being sold right next to them, figuratively speaking.
But this is also not for everyone, so if they can get a nice 80% experience straight out of the box that will do well.
I've even met those who consider the options and software for the virpil devices as to much to handle.
The prediction I'm going to make though is Moza is going to do very well.
Simply because they are being sold locally alongside thrustmaster.
TM on the other hand is going to struggle.
Especially now that they have competition so far ahead technically being sold right next to them, figuratively speaking.
OHere I stand
DHi @walmis, I have ordered a Rhino, Assigned S/N: #1428. Due to the wait time, and after reading the DIY pages I have decided to build 2 FFB setups, one for my stick and one for my rudder pedals. Q1: How do I cancel my reservation order for the Rhino? Q2: I will need 3 motors and 2 control boards. Do you have enough 86BLF03 and 86BLF04 in stock? Thanks in advance
AThat’s really not bad. I waited 4 months for my whole Virpil setup and at the time I had nothing to use during the wait, now this will just be like a treat when my number comes up.
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JIL-2 Korea announced! On a brand new graphics engine etc.
JNo word on release date, I'm no dev but to me how things are worded sounds like a 2025 release
JSince this is just the very first blog post they have for the game I'm sure all sorts of juicy info such as supported hardware and features (such as potential VR, FFB, etc.) will be shared later on
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F1524 is the serial number, not the waiting list
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FSafe? this is what I get if I ask the bot about the status of my pre-order:
FReservation date: 2024-06-11 11:55:23
Assigned S/N: #1524
926 Rhinos to go!
Reservation Status: Waiting
Assigned S/N: #1524
926 Rhinos to go!
Reservation Status: Waiting
FIt actually says that there are 926 Rhinos left before "mine", so in fact it's as if it were a waiting list--
HExactly my thoughts. Software and community will win this game.
FYeah you're assigned n 1524 for now
Nyou don't need to cancel now, just put in your kit orders
NBot will list them and their status too
N1400s is still a long time and keep that backup option in your back pocket, it's not like you've committed your funds to anything by being on the list
FWell yeah obviously but you went down 50 in it, not that 50 were made
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[@Grover what’s the status? 
FIn fact, in 20 days I don't really believe that 50 Rhinos were made, evidently someone gave up on the pre-order and consequently I have reduced the number of specimen they assigned to me, but the matter does not change, my specimen will be produced after another 926 Rhinos , that is, in fact it is the waiting list...
(yes ita a wzaiting list but you move up the list as others in front of you cancel as the wait is too long etc so as said some weekss it can jump as many as 50
SAnswered
Nnever underestimate the power of the crummy thrustmaster brand name 
Ni kinda feel bad as AVA is finally a decent base, but then again TM has also milked the garbage warthog for this long without making AVA (what warthog should have been), so they probably deserve to fail
DThanks Nubbins 
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WAre the motor kits available instantly? How long does it usually take for them to be shipped out?
WYeah, same or next day
Wawesome, will be buying soon then! Thanks!
Wjust need to find these HTD belts available with some reasonable price and shipping time
KI'm conflicted. On one hand I would love to have a rhino as fast as possible. On the other hand having been assigned serial number 911 on flight sim equipment is exactly my kind of dark humor
TKorea is an interesting choice over Vietnam. But it’s probably a little less crowded market than Vietnam era which DCS seems to have cornered.
Wyou can try building it yourself, definetly will be faster, even if you dont have a 3d printer
KIf I do it myself it will look terrible. I know myself well. I'm great at making things that work. But I'm horrible at making things that look good.
Wyou can hide it under your chair 
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AI wouldn't say DCS has Vietnam quite cornered yet, considering there is no Vietnam in the game
TPlane wise though I think they do. It would be hard to follow the hearblur F4 with a F4 in an IL2 game. Same for other late planes. Purely from a marketing standpoint I mean. That being said I like the mid-fidelity that IL2 GB offers. It’s enough to feel like I am actually flying the plane without being 1000 page manual required or overly arcadey.
AI think the amount of systems modeling would be a stretch for the Il-2 team when it comes to Vietnam era, but there's something to be said about actually having the Vietnam map, themed campaigns and such
TYou won’t get the number you’re assigned.
That’s just a placeholder
That’s just a placeholder
KYeah I noticed. I was originally supposed to get sn 1150 or something
JThey explain why in the blog post - It's a final send off to the IL series of aircraft. The final one served in Korea.