i kinda wish there was another manager that basically goes onto repology or smth, looks for UTD pack

i kinda wish there was another manager that basically goes onto repology or smth, looks for UTD packages, asks which preferred or whatever and distrobox-exports for u

imideOP•6/27/24, 4:35 AM

to avoid the headaches

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:35 AM

im saying the base images, what bazzite is built on, has that package

Iimide i kinda wish there was another manager that basically goes onto repology or smth...

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:35 AM

eventually fedora atomic will be bootc + dnf

imideOP•6/27/24, 4:35 AM

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:35 AM

right now we have to use

rpm-ostree

rpm-ostree

as basically a crutch

Ttryhardsoccermomswag not recommended but you can layer it

Iris•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

what exactly is the issue with layering?

imideOP•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

also looks like nix is a no-go? looking at prev messages

Iimide also looks like nix is a no-go? looking at prev messages

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

breaks selinux

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

won't return

Iris•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

i'm assuming it would just create your usual package manager issues of multiple dependency versions

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

Brew & Distrobox replace it

IIris what exactly is the issue with layering?

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

dependency issues just like a traditional package manager + slower updates + those dependency issues break updates especially for major releases

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

yeah

IIris what exactly is the issue with layering?

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

what you mentioned + slower

imideOP•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

with all of these issues, should i not switch? arch/windows rn

Iimide with all of these issues, should i not switch? arch/windows rn

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

I wouldn't call them issues, these are just differences

KKyle Gospo Brew & Distrobox replace it

imideOP•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

i use nixpacks and devenv however

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

Bazzite is an atomic image, things are just done very differently

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

yeah this is just fedora atomic desktop but gaming packages/tweaks out of the box

imideOP•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

they have features that distrobox and brew cannot

Iris•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

I mostly want to install a window manager at some point to replace gnome, but i suppose at that point I could just fork the template right?

Saki•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

Well if you want to install a lot of weird shit not in brew nor flatpak and you don't want to use a container, then yeah this would not be the distro for you

Iimide they have features that distrobox and brew cannot

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

your only option would be to use the nix installer & disable selinux

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

obviously we cannot ship that to end users, but nothing stops you from doing it

SSaki Well if you want to install a lot of weird shit not in brew nor flatpak and you ...

imideOP•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

i mean i use containers a lot

imideOP•6/27/24, 4:38 AM

but my issue is my main browser (thorium) isnt flatpak

Iimide but my issue is my main browser (thorium) isnt flatpak

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:38 AM

distrobox candidate for sure

imideOP•6/27/24, 4:38 AM

and im already terrible at not fucking things up lmao

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:38 AM

distrobox is not that scary

Iris•6/27/24, 4:38 AM

like i get the idea of everything being brew/distroboxable, but as far as I know wayland compositors can't really be done via those

Iris•6/27/24, 4:38 AM

unless they can and I'm just stupid

Ttryhardsoccermomswag distrobox is not that scary

imideOP•6/27/24, 4:39 AM

as a fucking moron, it is for me

IIris like i get the idea of everything being brew/distroboxable, but as far as I know...

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:39 AM

wayland compositing works fine via distrobox

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:39 AM

xwayland does not because you have to be root to create a new public x session

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:39 AM

and no, that does not mean xwayland apps don't work via distrobox

Iimide as a fucking moron, it is for me 😭

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:39 AM

worst thing that can happen is your home directory being filled with junk files

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:39 AM

its a container

Jazze (plz ping when reply)•6/27/24, 4:39 AM

Mfw sunshine jumpscared tf outta me by turning on speech screen reader accessibility

JJazze (plz ping when reply)Mfw sunshine jumpscared tf outta me by turning on speech screen reader accessibi...

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:39 AM

JJazze (plz ping when reply)Mfw sunshine jumpscared tf outta me by turning on speech screen reader accessibi...

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:39 AM

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:39 AM

sunshine on gnome bug

Iris•6/27/24, 4:39 AM

so I could install something like hyprland in a distrobox and replace gnome with it?

IIris so I could install something like hyprland in a distrobox and replace gnome with...

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:40 AM

you could, replacing gnome is another story entirely

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:40 AM

probably a better candidate for a custom image

Iris•6/27/24, 4:40 AM

yeah that was my thinking

KKyle Gospo you could, replacing gnome is another story entirely

imideOP•6/27/24, 4:41 AM

there is gNo escape

Iris•6/27/24, 4:41 AM

it's an issue for later anyway, ricing my deck will take a while anyway. but wouldn't a custom image that doesn't use gnome or kde break the seamless desktop/gamescope switching?

IIris so I could install something like hyprland in a distrobox and replace gnome with...

Jazze (plz ping when reply)•6/27/24, 4:41 AM

I plan to use it this way, but for my dwm setup

IIris it's an issue for later anyway, ricing my deck will take a while anyway. but wou...

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:41 AM

yes, someone made a hyprland-deck image

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:41 AM

but the keyboard sucks ass

i kinda wish there was another manager that basically goes onto repology or smth, looks for UTD pack

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