Trying to hide/delete comments always sucks, especially as you're only trying to offer your opinion

Trying to hide/delete comments always sucks, especially as you're only trying to offer your opinion ad feedback. Also, I didn't even consider handbrake, can't see that working

DDiverzant It will je sort of ffb but not able to sustain it for longer periods and every y...

ddrake1984•6/28/24, 6:09 AM

That’s the thing that annoys me. I want buyers to have the very best of factual information when they buy something and not be subject to marketing trickery.

MMajik Trying to hide/delete comments always sucks, especially as you're only trying to...

ddrake1984•6/28/24, 6:11 AM

This won’t stop me though, I will persist until I get all my answers

Dddrake1984 That’s the thing that annoys me. I want buyers to have the very best of factual ...

Diverzant•6/28/24, 6:18 AM

That aint gonna happen. They dont give a rats ass about anything except your money

amadeus•6/28/24, 6:24 AM

not to totally defend moza here, but it's possible it was just an overzealous moderator that misinterpreted the communication. regardless of whether they make something as good as the rhino or not, it's in general great validation for brands to start getting into this market, it will drive competition and hopefully eventually drive prices down

amadeus•6/28/24, 6:26 AM

imo we should be welcoming of all competition and nudging them gently to be better if we think they can be

Aamadeus not to totally defend moza here, but it's possible it was just an overzealous mo...

Wyber Boyes•6/28/24, 6:36 AM

Well said

walmis•6/28/24, 6:53 AM

I see Virpil has started to FOMO and announced FFB

Stryker990•6/28/24, 6:56 AM

Even more competition for walmis

Wwalmis I see Virpil has started to FOMO and announced FFB 🙂

amadeus•6/28/24, 7:00 AM

where?

amadeus•6/28/24, 7:00 AM

(honestly -- i was low key hoping they would just hire you :P)

walmis•6/28/24, 7:00 AM

Facebook

walmis•6/28/24, 7:01 AM

Truthfully, being a salaried employee is meh and I wouldn't want to work for them. Licencing would be more interesting.

amadeus•6/28/24, 7:01 AM

yeah that's totally fair

Wwalmis Yeah, it's doable, but you're correct it won't be as hard mechanical stops. Simi...

nubbins•6/28/24, 7:33 AM

from a company that is trying with non-committal marketing language to make it look like the entire product is "AVIATION-GRADE ALUMINUM CONSTRUCTION" lol

nubbins•6/28/24, 7:34 AM

and promising "universal" compatibility with "all" third party grips and almost immediately walking that back

nubbins•6/28/24, 7:35 AM

i want to like moza for their initiative here, but they're just increasingly looking like a second thrustmaster

Aamadeus not to totally defend moza here, but it's possible it was just an overzealous mo...

ddrake1984•6/28/24, 7:44 AM

I hope this is all it was, and ill give them the benefit of the doubt

ddrake1984•6/28/24, 7:45 AM

Walmis brought FFB to life, he will bring more to life and we will see if these larger companies can keep up with a single person

Nnubbins and promising "universal" compatibility with "all" third party grips and almost ...

ddrake1984•6/28/24, 7:46 AM

I laughed when I saw that

ddrake1984•6/28/24, 7:46 AM

I was like, orly,… only rhino can truly claim this

ddrake1984•6/28/24, 7:47 AM

Lets see what you come with.. oh, you backtracked.. lol

ddrake1984•6/28/24, 7:48 AM

I truly want them to succeed, but I dont want to be lied to or tricked into buying something and then finding out later it was a slimey sales tactic

ddrake1984•6/28/24, 7:48 AM

They are a big company, they know all the tricks

Dddrake1984 Lets see what you come with.. oh, you backtracked.. lol

nubbins•6/28/24, 7:50 AM

many excited vkb owners were piping up about vkb compatibility this past week

fortunately for them, walmis is still here to save the day

Dddrake1984 I truly want them to succeed, but I dont want to be lied to or tricked into buyi...

Diverzant•6/28/24, 7:53 AM

Same, though not as for them since I dont give a rats ass about them but that means that potentially I could jump places on the list for my Rhino

Nnubbins many excited vkb owners were piping up about vkb compatibility this past week 😆...

ddrake1984•6/28/24, 8:09 AM

Yeah, I bought the vkb adapter, such a smart idea (connector)

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/28/24, 9:24 AM

I give Moza benefit of the doubt because its their entry into the flight sim market, and their sim racing road to get to where they are today has been bumpy but without that perseverance and success they wouldn't be in a position to enter the flight sim market, and the reality is everyone who already knows stuff knows what will and won't work with it (at the very least from a basic will it connect without an adapter standpoint)

And I also suspect they didn't hire a flight sim expert to handle social media and answer questions about their flight sim products, and are using existing staff to handle that stuff, so some mistakes here and there are inevitable.

Regardless, time will tell, and it is only a matter of time, some 4-6 weeks for pre orders, til we see if they can walk the walk.

Wwalmis Yeah, it's doable, but you're correct it won't be as hard mechanical stops. Simi...

PiNKSH!T•6/28/24, 9:25 AM

would there be any benefit to using a physical H plate with the software stops too?

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/28/24, 9:27 AM

One thing that could be done for giggles is look at the kitbash ffb shifter, or the diy kit equivalent, and see what is used for those

Obviously the right tool for the job is preferred, but maybe an acceptable compromise on motor type to have something functional for both is possible

VPforceBot•6/28/24, 9:32 AM

:package:

RHINO #0603 Has Shipped!

PPiNKSH!T would there be any benefit to using a physical H plate with the software stops t...

walmis•6/28/24, 9:33 AM

It wouln't fit, there should be a narrow (~10mm) shaft that would fit the H plate

VPforceBot•6/28/24, 10:49 AM

:package:

RHINO #0604 Has Shipped!

AndyHill•6/28/24, 11:38 AM

It's good times if FOMO is directed at FFB

VVPforceBot :package: 🇨🇦 **RHINO #0603** Has Shipped!

FlyingEstee•6/28/24, 12:23 PM

Thanks @walmis

DDiverzant Same, though not as for them since I dont give a rats ass about them but that me...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/28/24, 1:23 PM

This guy Rhino’s (or he will soon for sure)

Old Prospector•6/28/24, 3:07 PM

I have considered all of them because I'm not very good at DIY. But Rhino seems best still.

AndyHill•6/28/24, 3:31 PM

I have no idea which one is the best, but I'd be careful about preordering anything that hasn't been tested properly

AndyHill•6/28/24, 3:31 PM

The way manufacturers report their specifications seems to be a bit of a wild west at the moment and there are absolutely critical factors such as anti-cogging and heat management that can make or break the product

amadeus•6/28/24, 3:48 PM

Moza has a 14 day money back guarantee

amadeus•6/28/24, 3:48 PM

So not a lot of risk if you want to try

walmis•6/28/24, 3:50 PM

I guess that's probably if you buy it from a local distributor, not directly from China

walmis•6/28/24, 3:51 PM

Roundtrip shipping would cost something like 200$+

amadeus•6/28/24, 3:52 PM

Tru tru

JIGGAwest•6/28/24, 4:20 PM

How is this working exactly? Is a limiter plate used, software only, or a combination of the two?

https://youtube.com/shorts/yfft-NoujPw?si=hvZx5bg7jUKJ7mMw

YouTubeValmantas Palikša

VPforce RHINO FFB H-Shifter (Detents feature showcase)

Detents will be available in the next firmware release 1.0.17

TTouch_Of_Legend This guy Rhino’s (or he will soon for sure) 👍🏽🦏

Diverzant•6/28/24, 4:27 PM

I already bought the stick, I‘m all in

JJIGGAwest How is this working exactly? Is a limiter plate used, software only, or a combin...

amadeus•6/28/24, 4:28 PM

Software update he is working on I believe (at least for the detents and stuff, dunno if he’s using a special limiter plate as well tho)

walmis•6/28/24, 4:39 PM

Yeah, it's all software. Detents can be dynamically created and adjusted for both axes, even by telemFFB

Wwalmis Yeah, it's all software. Detents can be dynamically created and adjusted for bot...

PiNKSH!T•6/28/24, 5:28 PM

is this something you feel is up to being released in the next update?

Spitfire ZX•6/28/24, 6:46 PM

that's a pretty neat use case for FFB that I hadn't considered honestly

Spitfire ZX•6/28/24, 6:47 PM

I only have a cheap G29 ish wheel and didn't care to buy a shifter because I'm much less interested in cars/driving, but if I had a Rhino already...

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