W parent moment. For some reasons parents here give their kids smartphones and after a couple yrs co

W parent moment. For some reasons parents here give their kids smartphones and after a couple yrs complain that the kids are addicted to the smartphone

JJazze (plz ping when reply)W parent moment. For some reasons parents here give their kids smartphones and a...

Kamquat•7/4/24, 1:48 PM

We specifically chose to not do to 'toss a tablet at the kids to distract them' parenting thing.

Wr3kage•7/4/24, 1:48 PM

let them use a tool not a toy

WWr3kage my parents only ever had a pc (they didn't allow consoles and it was before smar...

Jazze (plz ping when reply)OP•7/4/24, 1:49 PM

For me I got my first PC around 2009. It was fun times with windows 7

Jazze (plz ping when reply)OP•7/4/24, 1:49 PM

It was a family laptop

Kamquat•7/4/24, 1:49 PM

they both get PC time if they want to play games, but only my son really uses it.

Wr3kage•7/4/24, 1:49 PM

i remember being 6 years old and showing my neighbor how to use windows 3.1

JJazze (plz ping when reply)For me I got my first PC around 2009. It was fun times with windows 7

Kamquat•7/4/24, 1:49 PM

My first PC was a 386 w/ 4mb RAM.

KKamquat they both get PC time if they want to play games, but only my son really uses it...

Jazze (plz ping when reply)OP•7/4/24, 1:49 PM

This pattern checks out actually. My sis also does not use the PC much

KKamquat My first PC was a 386 w/ 4mb RAM. 😄

Jazze (plz ping when reply)OP•7/4/24, 1:50 PM

I had a supercomputer then. It was 500GB HDD, 512mb amd GPU with 4GB ram and 2 core cpu

JJazze (plz ping when reply)This pattern checks out actually. My sis also does not use the PC much

Kamquat•7/4/24, 1:51 PM

What's weird is, my daughter loves doing outdoor stuff, camping, hunting, my boy doesn't. He's a nerd and hates bugs, and bugs are outside.

WWr3kage i remember being 6 years old and showing my neighbor how to use windows 3.1

Jazze (plz ping when reply)OP•7/4/24, 1:51 PM

Your neighbours asked for help with their PCs then?

Wr3kage•7/4/24, 1:51 PM

my parents were both programmers, and i think they didn't want to help so they sent me

KKamquat What's weird is, my daughter loves doing outdoor stuff, camping, hunting, my boy...

Jazze (plz ping when reply)OP•7/4/24, 1:52 PM

Lol

JJazze (plz ping when reply)I had a supercomputer then. It was 500GB HDD, 512mb amd GPU with 4GB ram and 2 c...

Kamquat•7/4/24, 1:52 PM

Man lol I could only wish at that time. Starting Xfree86 on 4mb RAM took like 5 mins.

KKamquat Man lol I could only wish at that time. Starting Xfree86 on 4mb RAM took like 5 ...

Jazze (plz ping when reply)OP•7/4/24, 1:52 PM

What was xfree86?

Kamquat•7/4/24, 1:52 PM

When I upgraded to a 486 DX4-100mhz and 8mb RAM laptop, X became usable.

JJazze (plz ping when reply)What was xfree86?

Kamquat•7/4/24, 1:52 PM

The progenitor to Xorg (X11)

Jazze (plz ping when reply)OP•7/4/24, 1:52 PM

Oooo

Jazze (plz ping when reply)OP•7/4/24, 1:53 PM

Oh wow

Kamquat•7/4/24, 1:53 PM

Xorg forked from XFree86 when the XF86 dev changed the license

KKamquat The progenitor to Xorg (X11)

Wr3kage•7/4/24, 1:53 PM

i just got terminator chills

Jazze (plz ping when reply)OP•7/4/24, 1:53 PM

Lol

Kamquat•7/4/24, 1:53 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFree86#2003:_The_fork_and_the_disbanding_of_the_Core_Team

XFree86

XFree86 is an implementation of the X Window System. It was originally written for Unix-like operating systems on IBM PC compatibles and was available for many other operating systems and platforms. It is free and open source software under the XFree86 License version 1.1. It was developed by the XFree86 Project, Inc. The lead developer was Davi...

Jazze (plz ping when reply)OP•7/4/24, 1:54 PM

Unix was a proprietary software right?

Kamquat•7/4/24, 1:54 PM

tl;dr ". In February 2004, XFree86 4.4 was released with a change to the XFree86 license, by adding a credit clause,[23] similar to that in the original BSD license,[24] but broader in scope. The newer terms are referred to as the XFree86 License 1.1. Many projects relying on XFree86 found the new license unacceptable,["

JJazze (plz ping when reply)Unix was a proprietary software right?

Kamquat•7/4/24, 1:54 PM

UNIX, yes. FreeBSD and Linux, no. They're 'UNIX-like'

KKamquat UNIX, yes. FreeBSD and Linux, no. They're 'UNIX-like'

Jazze (plz ping when reply)OP•7/4/24, 1:54 PM

Did you try dual booting windows nt with Unix/linux in that time?

Jazze (plz ping when reply)OP•7/4/24, 1:55 PM

Unix for work and windows for dangerous dave

JJazze (plz ping when reply)Did you try dual booting windows nt with Unix/linux in that time?

Kamquat•7/4/24, 1:57 PM

No, I've basically mainly run Linux since 1993 or so. I have on occasion kept a windows PC for some games but stopped doing that once World of Warcraft started working semi-reliably in WINE, but I hate dual booting in general and won't do it.

Kamquat•7/4/24, 1:58 PM

I'd rather just have a second device entirely if needed. Like, I own a Mac for work for instance, but it's ONLY for work.

Kamquat•7/4/24, 1:59 PM

ironically, Wow works perfectly on Linux these days but I don't play it anymore. But I met my wife on it, so I guess it served it purpose

KKamquat ironically, Wow works perfectly on Linux these days but I don't play it anymore....

Wr3kage•7/4/24, 1:59 PM

nice

asen23•7/4/24, 1:59 PM

speaking of mac, it would be great if handheld can use arm and get actually good battery life

Wr3kage•7/4/24, 2:00 PM

hopefully arm pans out for windows

Kamquat•7/4/24, 2:00 PM

LTT did a stream yesterday of Qualcomm X elite vs Intel in games and Snapdragon wasn't great

Kamquat•7/4/24, 2:00 PM

there's lots of growing to do

Kamquat•7/4/24, 2:00 PM

rn its basically 'half your games probably won't work but battery life will be decent'

Wr3kage•7/4/24, 2:01 PM

a LOT of growing, apples silicon isn't even ready for gaming

Kamquat•7/4/24, 2:01 PM

Eh. Apple Silicon runs the games it does pretty well

Kamquat•7/4/24, 2:01 PM

Its more of 'is there even a mac version' vs performance

Wr3kage•7/4/24, 2:01 PM

yea, but apples going to put no money into the gaming side, its just a tech demo showing how powerful their hardware is

Kamquat•7/4/24, 2:02 PM

They did release GPTK

asen23•7/4/24, 2:02 PM

doesnt they put work into running resident evil or something in ios lol

Kamquat•7/4/24, 2:02 PM

Yes

Kamquat•7/4/24, 2:02 PM

they're kind of pushing some AAA games on iOS, I think there's an assassin's creed too

Kamquat•7/4/24, 2:02 PM

I don't have any iOS devices though so haven't kept up with it

Wr3kage•7/4/24, 2:03 PM

ios is the only place they actually care about games, the gptk is a translation layer that will get far less support than valve gives proton

WWr3kage ios is the only place they actually care about games, the gptk is a translation ...

Kamquat•7/4/24, 2:04 PM

They did add avx2 and ray tracing to gptk2

Kamquat•7/4/24, 2:04 PM

lol

Kamquat•7/4/24, 2:04 PM

so they're doing SOMETHING at least, but yes not on par with Valve

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