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if you don't then how are you gonna bring money to those projects
if you don
't then how are you gonna bring money to those projects
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Onihikage
•
7/5/24, 1:22 AM
even having donations is better than not
P
Pez
OP
•
7/5/24, 1:22 AM
everything needs money to be sustainable
P
Pez
if you don't then how are you gonna bring money to those projects
K
Kamquat
•
7/5/24, 1:22 AM
I mean
, many very important projects have a hell of a time getting any money
K
Kamquat
•
7/5/24, 1:22 AM
its a real problem
J
Johnny Appleseed
•
7/5/24, 1:22 AM
I don
't think anyone
's found a good solution to sustainability outside the big projects
P
Pez
OP
•
7/5/24, 1:22 AM
i don
't disagree
K
Kamquat
•
7/5/24, 1:22 AM
companies just use em and don
't support it
P
Pez
OP
•
7/5/24, 1:23 AM
they would stop happening entirely if they got zero money whatsoever
I
ImNotDrumatic
•
7/5/24, 1:23 AM
Donations I understand
, but when monopolistic companies get involved
, it just seems they
're doing it for the free labor
. Then they lock down the source so you can
't tell if it
's trustworthy
P
Pez
OP
•
7/5/24, 1:23 AM
that
's why we have licences to stop them doing that
J
Johnny Appleseed
I don't think anyone's found a good solution to sustainability outside the big ...
K
Kamquat
•
7/5/24, 1:23 AM
Licenses that deny commercial use by any entity over a certain market value
!
Let
's do it
!
J
Johnny Appleseed
•
7/5/24, 1:23 AM
I think we should just let the NSA fund all of our
backdoors
software
J
Johnny Appleseed
•
7/5/24, 1:23 AM
FUTO moment
I
ImNotDrumatic
•
7/5/24, 1:23 AM
Licenses only work for people that can afford the lawyers to support them
J
Johnny Appleseed
I think we should just let the NSA fund all of our ~~backdoors~~ software
K
Kamquat
•
7/5/24, 1:23 AM
I mean
, if I have to pick the NSA or the CCP
, I
'm not actually sure which I
'd choose
.
P
Pez
OP
•
7/5/24, 1:23 AM
nobody has ever thought about this before
:smirk
:
P
Pez
OP
•
7/5/24, 1:24 AM
we are the big smart cabal
J
Johnny Appleseed
•
7/5/24, 1:24 AM
I mean theoretically at least the NSA has some interests aligned with mine as an American citizen
J
Johnny Appleseed
•
7/5/24, 1:24 AM
but that doesn
't count for everyone
P
Pez
nobody has ever thought about this before :smirk:
K
Kamquat
•
7/5/24, 1:24 AM
I am a software anarchist
. I care not for licenses
! lol
J
Johnny Appleseed
I mean theoretically at least the NSA has some interests aligned with mine as an...
K
Kamquat
•
7/5/24, 1:24 AM
Yeah I
'm not American
, so it
's really 50
/50 lol
J
Johnny Appleseed
I mean theoretically at least the NSA has some interests aligned with mine as an...
P
Pez
OP
•
7/5/24, 1:24 AM
the department of defense lives and breathes on FOSS
O
Onihikage
•
7/5/24, 1:24 AM
DoD loves being able to audit the code their systems use
, it makes total sense
P
Pez
OP
•
7/5/24, 1:25 AM
https://dodcio.defense.gov/Open-Source-Software-FAQ/
J
Johnny Appleseed
•
7/5/24, 1:26 AM
I think by and large it
's a good thing that governments fund development
, it
's just the conflicts of interest are where things get fun
J
Johnny Appleseed
•
7/5/24, 1:26 AM
also Ghidra is pretty dope
P
Pez
OP
•
7/5/24, 1:26 AM
there
's even a whole section about how the licences are most certainly enforceable
J
Johnny Appleseed
also Ghidra is pretty dope
P
Pez
OP
•
7/5/24, 1:26 AM
ghidra was a funny thing
P
Pez
OP
•
7/5/24, 1:27 AM
from what i heard through the grapevine it was kinda ass before it went public unless you were trained on it
V
Valerie
•
7/5/24, 1:27 AM
No joke
, tried to joke about Bazzite having an NSA backdoor and now our router has stopped receiving service
P
Pez
OP
•
7/5/24, 1:27 AM
fuck you get verizon
'd
P
Pez
from what i heard through the grapevine it was kinda ass before it went public u...
J
Johnny Appleseed
•
7/5/24, 1:27 AM
checks out but dragons
V
Valerie
No joke, tried to joke about Bazzite having an NSA backdoor and now our router h...
J
Johnny Appleseed
•
7/5/24, 1:27 AM
many such cases
J
Johnny Appleseed
checks out but dragons
P
Pez
OP
•
7/5/24, 1:27 AM
it was also pretty god damn awful when it first went public lmao
J
Johnny Appleseed
•
7/5/24, 1:27 AM
https://youtu.be/7gRsgkdfYJ8?t=9
YouTube
Sam Abdullaev
Linus Torvalds - Backdoor In Linux
Linus Torvalds Admits He
's Been Asked To Insert Backdoor Into Linux
LinuxCon
& CloudOpen North America 2013
- Linux Kernel Panel
P
Pez
OP
•
7/5/24, 1:28 AM
pretty sure they only did it because the old business model of copying hex
-rays wasn
't sustainable
P
Pez
OP
•
7/5/24, 1:28 AM
easier to outsource this tooling and cut out the RTO middleman
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C
ChaiQi
•
7/5/24, 1:28 AM
What is the point of this comment
?
V
Valerie
•
7/5/24, 1:28 AM
LMFAO
P
Pez
OP
•
7/5/24, 1:28 AM
even hex
-rays are having their lunch eaten in the reversing space
I
ImNotDrumatic
Licenses only work for people that can afford the lawyers to support them
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/5/24, 1:28 AM
That
's what the GPL is for
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/5/24, 1:28 AM
And MIT
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/5/24, 1:29 AM
These are backed licenses
V
Valerie
LMFAO
O
Onihikage
•
7/5/24, 1:29 AM
paid
*
J
Johnny Appleseed
•
7/5/24, 1:29 AM
I mean if nobody puts their teeth behind it nothing happens but at least the potential is there ig
Original message was deleted
P
Pez
OP
•
7/5/24, 1:29 AM
doraura and joefin
J
Johnny Appleseed
•
7/5/24, 1:29 AM
Still better to have the legal right than not
O
Onihikage
paid*
V
Valerie
•
7/5/24, 1:29 AM
You don
't get to correct me on an unsent message cmooon
P
Pez
OP
•
7/5/24, 1:29 AM
the backdoor is your reliance on this discord
P
Pez
OP
•
7/5/24, 1:30 AM
we are all glowies
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