You are conflating simplification of a DE experience for modern hardware, that is still fully custom

You are conflating simplification of a DE experience for modern hardware, that is still fully customizable through extensions with dumbing down, which is the abelism part, and it's she

Mmaboesanman Neither were installed when I installed the component you suggested

Kasher_CS•7/5/24, 6:27 PM

Maybe its named differently on other distros

KKyle Gospo extremely poor placement

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:27 PM

So change it?

Kasher_CS•7/5/24, 6:28 PM

Yes, that's what he did

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:28 PM

Or use a keyboard or use swipe up?

Kasher_CS•7/5/24, 6:28 PM

Bazzite's defaults are to use Hot Edge

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:28 PM

Kde uses upper left corner too

MMcromae Or use a keyboard or use swipe up?

Kyle Gospo•7/5/24, 6:29 PM

my solution is to turn it off by default and use hot edge

Kasher_CS•7/5/24, 6:29 PM

KDE using upper left corner makes the least sense of them all

Kyle Gospo•7/5/24, 6:29 PM

which makes the entire bottom edge act as the hot corner

Kyle Gospo•7/5/24, 6:29 PM

apply pressure to show the dash like a hidden dock

KKasher_CS Maybe its named differently on other distros

maboesanman•7/5/24, 6:29 PM

Aha, you explicitly have to install the libglvnd-opengl package as well

KKyle Gospo which makes the entire bottom edge act as the hot corner

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:29 PM

I like that yeah

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:30 PM

There's also an extension that adds a little android/iOS style indicator at the bottom and you can just swipe up with one finger, love that extension

MMcromae You are conflating simplification of a DE experience for modern hardware, that i...

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:31 PM

Also, if you really wanna get into it, the workspaces and window management system of vanilla gnome out of the box is more sophisticated, especially for mouse or touch screen than default KDE

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:33 PM

And it has a more functional onscreen keyboard with autocomplete support for people who don't have the opportunity to plug in a keyboard

Saki•7/5/24, 6:34 PM

I used it for many years. Every single release for the past few years removed powerful features in the core system utils, like the file explorer. Use gnome long enough, and they'll remove features you like, too

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:34 PM

Lol, I have been using gnome since version 2, ever heard of Mate?

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:35 PM

They changed, change happens

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:35 PM

Also, if you don't like the simple file manager, terminal is riiiight there

KKyle Gospo my solution is to turn it off by default and use hot edge

Geechan•7/5/24, 6:36 PM

Hot edge should be the default GNOME behaviour imo. It's so intuitive and fast

Saki•7/5/24, 6:36 PM

There's nothing to argue about here; I used quite a few features that no longer exist, so I switched away from it. This is objectively less functionality for power users. I am not blind, so the parallel improvements to that stuff aren't relevant to me. If you didn't use the removed features, then you'll still enjoy gnome I assume (for now)

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:36 PM

It's not about meeting YOUR needs, it's about meeting most people's needs, and having extensibility to do the former

Geechan•7/5/24, 6:37 PM

And it's positioned right where the dash/dock would be anyway

SSaki There's nothing to argue about here; I used quite a few features that no longer ...

j0rge•7/5/24, 6:37 PM

I'm a power user and I love GNOME, it existing doesn't affect you.

j0rge•7/5/24, 6:37 PM

you can just not use it

Saki•7/5/24, 6:37 PM

I'd rather just install KDE and have things integrated, than hunt down a bunch of extensions

SSaki There's nothing to argue about here; I used quite a few features that no longer ...

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:38 PM

Also, "not blind" rly? Rly?

alex13131•7/5/24, 6:38 PM

Hi! When i was using manjaro yhere was an extensions and a command to switch to teh secondary hpu of my laptop (i have a hybrid intl/nvidia). On bazzite how can i switch the entire desktop to Nvidia only instead of intel?

Geechan•7/5/24, 6:39 PM

Said it yesterday, but if GNOME's workflow works well for you then it's a significantly more polished experience than KDE imo. But they're both high quality desktops for different needs

Geechan•7/5/24, 6:39 PM

Best to leave it at that really

GGeechan Said it yesterday, but if GNOME's workflow works well for you then it's a signif...

Saki•7/5/24, 6:39 PM

Agreed

SSaki I'd rather just install KDE and have things integrated, than hunt down a bunch o...

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:39 PM

I'd like to manage my workspaces better, not have bloat out of the box, have better extensibility, and an on screen keyboard that's full featured in case I do need to use the terminal or something, to each there own, this is not objective

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:41 PM

Also, not being for power users =/= dumb you should be more careful with your language

Saki•7/5/24, 6:43 PM

Ohhhh, you were taking issue with the phrase "dumbing-down"?

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:43 PM

As well as making comments about the blind as a euphemism sure

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:43 PM

Just generally most of this

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:44 PM

If you can't see it whatever, not my job

Saki•7/5/24, 6:44 PM

That wasn't a euphemism; they've integrated a lot of screen reader functionality recently

Saki•7/5/24, 6:44 PM

I was just pointing out that, while good, it's not relevant for my workflow

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:44 PM

Well that's good, still, claiming it as a reason to use it, really still not great

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:44 PM

"Well I am not disabled why would I use GNOME? "

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:45 PM

Like, what a nice way to throw shade

Saki•7/5/24, 6:45 PM

I think you're picking a strange fight over an innocuous exchange of opinions, so I am going to stop responding to you

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:46 PM

That's probably for the best, not my job to help people grow up

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:46 PM

Though sometimes I sure do try

lune5•7/5/24, 6:47 PM

Bruh the way you're talking to people.. you got a lot of growing up yourself. Having to have the last word lol. Infant stuff right there. My toddlers act more mature.. smh

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:48 PM

Nah, I just reply where it's warrented, and sure, do I get frustrated with people for being rude and stubborn yeah

MMcromae That's probably for the best, not my job to help people grow up

lune5•7/5/24, 6:49 PM

Warranted? Lol okay

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:49 PM

Also, stopping a conversation because you disagree, or dunking on a minority as a part of your argument isn't a sign of maturity

McromaeOP•7/5/24, 6:50 PM

Or shitting on "lay people" and acting superior

You are conflating simplification of a DE experience for modern hardware, that is still fully custom

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