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P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
they can run literally any other distro if this is a problem
K
Kyle Gospo
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
which is not going away
, just as pipewire
-pulse isn
't going away
M
Mcromae
And yet, programmers I know who code shit in like Haskell for satellites and stu...
K
Kamquat
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
They
'd also likely not be running
bazzite
to do so
K
Kamquat
Poor X11.
H
halva
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
X11 has served surprisingly fine for being a stop gap measure for setups that no longer even exist anymore
K
Kyle Gospo
that is what XWayland is for
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
It
’s broken
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
supporting haskell developers isn
't our mission here LMFAO
M
Mcromae
It’s broken
K
Kyle Gospo
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
"it
's broken
" he says on the distro that plays games entirely in XWayland
K
Kyle Gospo
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
there are also fully featured nested x11 compositors you can use
K
Kyle Gospo
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
I will not entertain this
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
i want to
"play elden ring without screen tearing
"
P
Pez
they can run literally any other distro if this is a problem
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
No I can
’t
, that
’s right up there with saying
“if you don
’t like it here move
”
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
not support 80s software
H
halva
X11 has served surprisingly fine for being a stop gap measure for setups that no...
K
Kamquat
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
I
've been using X11 since it was Xfree86
. It
's about time it got put out to pasture
. It
's kludges on top of hacks on top of patches at this point
.
M
Mcromae
And yet, programmers I know who code shit in like Haskell for satellites and stu...
H
halva
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
what does haskell even have to do with windowing protocols what
M
Mcromae
No I can’t, that’s right up there with saying “if you don’t like it here move”
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
yeah and that
's actually the prerogative set
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
you can go use an ancient LTS distro if you need LTS software
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:43 AM
nobody is stopping you from not getting updates but yourself at that point
K
Kamquat
•
7/8/24, 12:43 AM
Or run a VM
. Or Distrobox and VNC to yourself
.
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:43 AM
you don
't have to use wayland but nobody is going to stop progress on wayland for some random ass industrial control software from the 80s
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:43 AM
you can even start your own distro that supports those users
P
Pez
you don't have to use wayland but nobody is going to stop progress on wayland fo...
K
Kamquat
•
7/8/24, 12:43 AM
Don
't make the COBOL programmers come after you
.
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:44 AM
oh no
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:44 AM
it
's ok i
'll just show their boss chatgpt
M
Mervius
•
7/8/24, 12:44 AM
all 2 of them
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:44 AM
cobol programmer in a can
K
Kamquat
Don't make the COBOL programmers come after you.
H
halva
•
7/8/24, 12:44 AM
what are they going to do
, throw walking canes at them
?
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:44 AM
(he
's not very good but that
's ok it
's a cobol programmer in 2024
)
P
Pez
it's ok i'll just show their boss chatgpt
K
Kamquat
•
7/8/24, 12:44 AM
https://spectrum.ieee.org/chatgpt-for-coding
IEEE Spectrum
How Good Is ChatGPT at Coding, Really?
Study finds that while AI can be great
, it also struggles due to training limitations
K
Kamquat
https://spectrum.ieee.org/chatgpt-for-coding
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:45 AM
i
'm well aware
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:45 AM
i am being facetious
K
Kamquat
•
7/8/24, 12:45 AM
I
've used chatgpt to write code
, but just for myself cause lazy and I was curious
.
K
Kamquat
•
7/8/24, 12:45 AM
I
'd give it an 7
/10
.
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:45 AM
you can get it to a 9 if you are really intense about your setup
P
Pez
you can even start your own distro that supports those users
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:46 AM
Wow
, literally absurd responses
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:46 AM
wtfym
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:46 AM
what
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:46 AM
how the god damn shit do you think bazzite ended up happening
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:46 AM
somebody went
"i want to support
$USERS
"
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:46 AM
somebody else provided a space for that person to support
$USERS
P
Pez
you can get it to a 9 if you are really intense about your setup
K
Kamquat
•
7/8/24, 12:47 AM
it does write semi
-competent Pascal code
.
K
Kyle Gospo
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:47 AM
GNOME is dropping their X11 session w
/ Fedora 41
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:47 AM
$OTHER
_USERS showing up to demand
$OUT
_OF
_SCOPE
_FEATURE are literally beyond being an issue
K
Kyle Gospo
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:47 AM
KDE dropped it with Fedora 40
K
Kyle Gospo
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:47 AM
Budgie is getting a massive Wayland release
, I imagine they
'll drop X11 next
K
Kyle Gospo
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:47 AM
even XFCE has a Wayland compositor now
K
Kamquat
it does write semi-competent Pascal code.
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:47 AM
i heard it
's really good for those old system langs as long as you keep it concise
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:47 AM
but i don
't fuck with these
K
Kamquat
•
7/8/24, 12:47 AM
Aren
't 99
% of the X11
/Wayland issues Nvidia anyways
?
P
Pez
•
7/8/24, 12:47 AM
yes
K
Kyle Gospo
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:47 AM
yes
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