<@205854764540362752> what is mulit line captioning? the wildcard? what does it do and how do you us
@Furkan Gözükara SECourses what is mulit line captioning? the wildcard? what does it do and how do you use it
K@Furkan Gözükara SECourses do you have any guidelines/guide on how to pick images? as in what type of images should be picked for training?
FNice tips
FJust write a prompt each line
FIt will randomly use during training each one
FI explain in tutorials but I don't have a specific tutorial yet
FI am composing a good dataset to make a dedicated turorial
Ti tried different dataset style, always perfect quality with different clothing and background
i found out that it is not the best idea to add different facial expression since when using a prompt like "surprised"
if the model use an already surprised expression from the dataset it would be SUPER exaggerated and very weird, even using moderate prompt like "slightly"
I suppose that it would not be an issue if every picture from dataset were captioned, but i havnt found a good tutorial about dataset/captioning and method to use
Also i found that not be able to modify face is a pretty sad, adding a cyborg eye, or facepaint, makup, blood, dirt whatever, tried a lot of prompt even in the adetailer face parameter
I also found out that if your dataset is always with a sharp focused talent and blurry backround, whatever prompt you use, it will always be the same in Stablediffusion, always a sharp focused person, but blury background (i may doing something wrong), i feel like the "from single text file" method is pretty good for something quick, but if you want to achieve God level of training, you need to do the Super anoying long version of data training method
i found out that it is not the best idea to add different facial expression since when using a prompt like "surprised"
if the model use an already surprised expression from the dataset it would be SUPER exaggerated and very weird, even using moderate prompt like "slightly"
I suppose that it would not be an issue if every picture from dataset were captioned, but i havnt found a good tutorial about dataset/captioning and method to use
Also i found that not be able to modify face is a pretty sad, adding a cyborg eye, or facepaint, makup, blood, dirt whatever, tried a lot of prompt even in the adetailer face parameter
I also found out that if your dataset is always with a sharp focused talent and blurry backround, whatever prompt you use, it will always be the same in Stablediffusion, always a sharp focused person, but blury background (i may doing something wrong), i feel like the "from single text file" method is pretty good for something quick, but if you want to achieve God level of training, you need to do the Super anoying long version of data training method
SDoes anyone have some good results with SDXL trainings and could possibly share results? Mainly for close-ups / portraits.
Tried 1.5 but not too great for me..
Tried 1.5 but not too great for me..
Dwhat do you mean? theres hundreds of trained good stuff on civitai
SYeah of course but preferably from people here with advice and that can share training parameters
SCivitai is full of good stuff ofc
Tyou just follow the onetrainer tutorial from our lord Dr.
1.5 and SDXL works perfect for portrait or close-up, even midrange
The most important is dataset, high quality of 20-25 pictures with everything focused, the most important is eyes/iris
Don't do crazy angle but not only front face picture, add some slightly left/right/pan/tilted angle so you can use full potential of Stablediffusion generation
Use Realvisx4 sdxl model first so you can learn from a model that dsnt need a lot of tweeks to work great, if you want to do NSFW i cannot really help you since i do not produce them, but i assume that using Reg images will break a lot of the capacity of a model to do such generation,
You also gonna need comfy-UI and learn how to use it since you can make different layers of generation to be able to add texture in the face easily (makeup,modification and such) i suppose there is a method to do it without comfy, didn't found it yet.
If you follow Dr. tutorial, copy EVERYTHING and use a GOOD dataset, you will be able to produce even more quality than him (since he is using a medium quality dataset)
1.5 and SDXL works perfect for portrait or close-up, even midrange
The most important is dataset, high quality of 20-25 pictures with everything focused, the most important is eyes/iris
Don't do crazy angle but not only front face picture, add some slightly left/right/pan/tilted angle so you can use full potential of Stablediffusion generation
Use Realvisx4 sdxl model first so you can learn from a model that dsnt need a lot of tweeks to work great, if you want to do NSFW i cannot really help you since i do not produce them, but i assume that using Reg images will break a lot of the capacity of a model to do such generation,
You also gonna need comfy-UI and learn how to use it since you can make different layers of generation to be able to add texture in the face easily (makeup,modification and such) i suppose there is a method to do it without comfy, didn't found it yet.
If you follow Dr. tutorial, copy EVERYTHING and use a GOOD dataset, you will be able to produce even more quality than him (since he is using a medium quality dataset)
Mrunpod prices decreased a lot for 6000ada and other gpus, looks like they'll try to compete with massed compute
M@Furkan Gözükara SECourses upgraded to new xformers 0.27 and torch, getting way better results and smoother results with xformers and training now on kohya
SI'm looking for an AI developer to develop my project.
If u are interested, contact me.
If u are interested, contact me.
Fyou got some very accurate findings
Ftrue i see A6000 dropped from 0.69 to 0.49 but still we get from 0.31 cent on massed compute with our coupon 
Fyes xformers newer versions are way better than older ones
SThanks a lot for this! Really interesting I appreciate it.
I’ve done a SDXL training with a pretty good dataset I think, on Realvisxl 4, no captions. But the quality wasn’t that great, and the face resemblance was even worse.
https://discord.com/channels/772774097734074388/1261270101244641302/1261336695110897766
I use Comfy as my main tool but the training itself must be a little bit better I feel like, maybe I’m still doing something wrong
I’ve done a SDXL training with a pretty good dataset I think, on Realvisxl 4, no captions. But the quality wasn’t that great, and the face resemblance was even worse.
https://discord.com/channels/772774097734074388/1261270101244641302/1261336695110897766
I use Comfy as my main tool but the training itself must be a little bit better I feel like, maybe I’m still doing something wrong
Tdon't forget that you need to use the good vae if not baked-in, Hires 1.5/1.7, adetailer capped on resolution 1024x1024 with a denoising strengh between 0.35 to 0.60,
TAlso i did an update on my stable diffusion and i couldnt anymore use my training face, , everything worked, but not my trained model, suddently turned bad for no reason, i had to reinstall a fresh sb, dunno why but some ppl had the same pb as me, so maybe you have an adetailer version or something that went wrong
SI see! I don't think I even used ADetailer for those but I'll have a look. Thanks a lot!
Mhopefully massed compute gets the 6000ada soon for even faster speeds
Fi totally agree
F
Xmade 2 loras with completely different 2 datasets, but it gets "blush" as the trigger word.
Xchanging dataset doesnt solve anything
XI dont need a trigger word, so how do I disable that?
Xdid enable shuffle caption too
Dif you already trained it, you cant change the trigger word
Fit is about your captions
Fyou need to understand how captions work
Xhmm used this to captioning, thats it. I mean I made 5loras prev, those are fine.
TIf I already have a trained model but I want to add more poses/expressions, would it be correct to take that already trained checkpoint and try only 3 or 4 photos with those expressions? What is your opinion? Because doing it again costs me more money, and this way I save time 
YPrepping a dataset right now of a human subject and most of the quality photos I have are group shots. Is there a way I can modify/psd the group shots to work for training purposes?
SCan someone please tell what base model should i use to train a face like this (half cartoon 3d render and half human like)
I was made using faceswap with an cartoon face
I was made using faceswap with an cartoon face
MA R T I U M An offshoot from my OMNIUM model, geared more towards an illustrative and painterly style, still very much infused with Omnium's DNA in...
Fi would improve dataset and do training again
Fi would avoid
Fbecause you will get mixed faces
Fi would download best models from civitiai
Fand test my prompt
Fand see which one yields best ones
Ffor generic prompts
JQuestion, I have had very good results with Onetrainer SD1.5 finetuning and LoRa extraction, now I am trying it with SDXL models, finetuning works very well,
but when I extract LoRa the similarity of the person is much weaker, this is not the case with the SD1.5 extracted LoRAs, do I just have to train longer here ?
but when I extract LoRa the similarity of the person is much weaker, this is not the case with the SD1.5 extracted LoRAs, do I just have to train longer here ?
Dbtw, how big of a quality difference are we talking about when it comes to direct lora draining vs full checkpoint training + extraction?
Jat least with my datasets i get the best results with full checkpoint training + extraction. How big the difference? i can see it, if extraction is 10 then i would give a 6 or 7
FHello! I would like to ask for some advice. How can I achieve the best settings for training SDXL Lora on OneTrainer, and what should I pay attention to? The training set consists of approximately 80-150 images of artist’s works with inconsistent aspect ratios. Thank you! 
NThe L40 & L40S are very similar to the 6000 ADA. We have a few of those available right now.
The L40 & L40S have a better server CPU and Ram as well.
The L40 & L40S have a better server CPU and Ram as well.
Mi think in terms of pricing with runpod both the l40 and 6000ada are quite cheap 79cents per hour
but on massed compute its 1.15 for the l40
but on massed compute its 1.15 for the l40