My pedal mod works but not properly, it still feels good it doesn’t reacts to stall and weapon vibra

My pedal mod works but not properly, it still feels good it doesn’t reacts to stall and weapon vibration, but engine vibration works, spring and damper works too. I don’t know whether it is hardware issue or software issue,

Y axis deactivated, set to child instance as a pedals (2054), master gain 60, periodic effects 100, constant 100, spring 100, others 0 on setting page, spring 90, adaptive recentering activated on effects page.

any idea can help me kindly let me know Thanks a lot

PPokePoke My pedal mod works but not properly, it still feels good it doesn’t reacts to st...

Hiob•7/15/24, 9:04 AM

As mentioned earlier - since some FFB works it is almost safe to say that it isn't a hardware issue. Can you post screenshots of your complete settings in VP configurator and TelemFFB for the Aircraft you wnat to try?

Hiob•7/15/24, 9:05 AM

I would rather set master gain to 100% and reduce the individual effects if necessary. Maybe the gain for the particular effects you are missing is just too low.

PPokePoke My pedal mod works but not properly, it still feels good it doesn’t reacts to st...

Number481•7/15/24, 9:14 AM

which sim?

NNumber481 which sim?

PokePokeOP•7/15/24, 9:25 AM

TPR Mod Tiger version, il2 sturmovik BOS

PPokePoke TPR Mod Tiger version, il2 sturmovik BOS

Number481•7/15/24, 9:40 AM

Haven't spent much time with pedals in IL2 beyond the initial dynamic forces implementation.. however, looking at the effects code, it seems these two effects (buffeting / weapons) are hard coded to 0 degrees for IL2 with no user adjustable direction.. so... since pedals are the 90/270 axis, those effects won't be felt through the pedals.

I'll put it on my to-do list to fix

NNumber481 Haven't spent much time with pedals in IL2 beyond the initial dynamic forces imp...

PokePokeOP•7/15/24, 9:44 AM

for weapon vibration I thought that because of Y axis is deactivated. since weapon (gun) vibration works for only Y axis with joystick. anyways it works nicely with joystick. Thanks anyway and will be waiting for next update

Reed•7/15/24, 7:39 PM

@Number481 am I right in thinking, regardless what I have the effects tab set in the configurator, if dcs has native ffb support it only uses whats available from the sim? 58 will only use whats avaible. 60 will use whats in the effects tab because it does not have support natively?

Number481•7/15/24, 7:56 PM

The effects tab simply starts the applicable effects on the joystick. Unless "sticky" is enabled, a given effect that is configured on that tab will be overridden when a game sends a FFB command to start said effect.

Disabling an effect checkbox on the effects tab does not disable that effect type, it just doesnt start said effect from configurator. Only setting a gain value on the settings tab will effectively disable an effect type (such that a game can't start one with any strength)

In my experience, DCS does nothing except Spring and Periodic. If you set a damper/friction/inertia effect in the effects tab, it should persist.

UH-60 is a community mod that does not implement FFB.

DCS sets its own spring effect=0 during startup (overriding what you may have set in the effects tab, unless "sticky"). If a module does not restart the effect, the stick will remain limp.

Number481•7/15/24, 7:57 PM

one of the reasons I put the damper/friction/inertia overrides in TelemFFB is so you can simply start what ammounts to a "sticky" effect on a per-aircraft basis. It will still be bound by the settings gain slider

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Hiob•7/15/24, 8:27 PM

You assign it yourself in the VP configurator software. (obviously it needs to be different from the joysticks)

Reed•7/15/24, 8:42 PM

I imported the default config and tested and i am still getting the boing effect vs what @amadeus posted in his video. I then match his settings and still have the boing. I will post a video later when I get some time of what my joystick is doing. Here are my current settings

Reed•7/15/24, 8:42 PM

Dont mind the pink arrow, joystick is currently off.

Reed•7/15/24, 8:43 PM

amadeus•7/15/24, 8:54 PM

yeah unfort i'm pretty stumped at this point, based on what you're saying, everything should just be working as expected

RReed I imported the default config and tested and i am still getting the boing effect...

Number481•7/15/24, 9:08 PM

Check your debug tab while DCS is running. The effects with black text are the active ones. Look for the damper effect. If it is grey text, DCS or something else stopped the effect you have set in configurator. Unless you have the damper override in TelemFFB set at %0 (which will actually override a sticky setting in configurator), enabling the sticky option will stop DCS from stopping the effect.

Reed•7/16/24, 12:30 AM

They settings i have checked in effects show up as black i can turn them on and off and they show black or blank depending whether on and off, so working correctly.

Reed•7/16/24, 12:38 AM

Reed•7/16/24, 12:39 AM

Reed•7/16/24, 12:39 AM

Reset config and match your settings and still has the boing.

Reed•7/16/24, 12:46 AM

@amadeus @Number481 it appears the boing on from side to side. fore and aft seem to work.

Reed•7/16/24, 12:47 AM

amadeus•7/16/24, 12:47 AM

what's the debug tab look like?

Reed•7/16/24, 12:48 AM

amadeus•7/16/24, 12:48 AM

also -- probably a dumb question, don't mean to imply your dumb or anything, just want to cover obvious bases -- you are pressing Apply Settings after making settings changes in configurator?

amadeus•7/16/24, 12:48 AM

can you scroll down in the Loaded Effects?

amadeus•7/16/24, 12:48 AM

there's a bunch more stuff out of view

Reed•7/16/24, 12:48 AM

Yes sir.

amadeus•7/16/24, 12:48 AM

(yeah -- i think it's clear you are clicking apply btw -- since i see written to flash)

Reed•7/16/24, 12:50 AM

amadeus•7/16/24, 12:51 AM

ok -- what is interesting -- is that it looks like damping has a 0 saturation :thonk:

Reed•7/16/24, 12:51 AM

why would the x axis work and the y axis not

Reed•7/16/24, 12:51 AM

all settings the saturation is ero

amadeus•7/16/24, 12:52 AM

can you screen shot the expanded area of Damper?

amadeus•7/16/24, 12:52 AM

also -- you only have 1 rhino right? no FFB rhino pedals or anything, right?

Reed•7/16/24, 12:52 AM

1 rhino correct

amadeus•7/16/24, 12:53 AM

let me compare against mine real quick

amadeus•7/16/24, 12:55 AM

ok yeah, i don't think that's an issue, let me boot up DCS real quick and check the loaded effects in the OH58D

amadeus•7/16/24, 12:56 AM

oh -- quick q: what's the gain map for damper look like?

Reed•7/16/24, 12:56 AM

amadeus•7/16/24, 12:57 AM

yup, that's the default

amadeus•7/16/24, 12:57 AM

on random thing

amadeus•7/16/24, 12:57 AM

if you set Damper Force LPF in Expert Settings to 20.0hz. does that change anything?

amadeus•7/16/24, 12:58 AM

(obvi make sure to Apply Settings)

Reed•7/16/24, 12:59 AM

Yes, scares the shit out of me. The rhino just went crazy oscillation and failed with buzzer and beep.

amadeus•7/16/24, 1:00 AM

hehe, kk, yeah that's probably some weird interplay with your extension, or the other expert settings

amadeus•7/16/24, 1:01 AM

i don't know enough about those settings to know whether they can fight with each other, or if like, it's very dependent on whether you have an extension or not

Reed•7/16/24, 1:01 AM

My extension is 40cm

amadeus•7/16/24, 1:03 AM

the only other thing i would say try, and it may still yield those chaotic resuls, is trying to match my expert settings across the board

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