ehh, i wouldn't say that, i would say they've always been on the mid to higher end of the mid teir p

ehh, i wouldn't say that, i would say they've always been on the mid to higher end of the mid teir production stuff, like the only stuff better would be like super custom/military type stuff. Their alpha's before the prime were in the mid 200s, but dropped in price a bit with the Prime

Aamadeus ehh, i wouldn't say that, i would say they've always been on the mid to higher e...

nubbins•7/17/24, 1:26 AM

For sure, the FLNKR will elevate their grip line

nubbins•7/17/24, 1:26 AM

I've never really thought very highly of their grips

nubbins•7/17/24, 1:26 AM

This is their chance to turn things around

RoboGeoff•7/17/24, 1:40 AM

I remember the T50 CM2 grip being called "premium" so I don't know what Virpil's standards really are

FuturPaladin [FR/2A]☨•7/17/24, 2:07 AM

Virpil's goated

amadeusOP•7/17/24, 2:07 AM

I mean, everything is relative. A lot of terms being thrown around here, with no relative basis

amadeusOP•7/17/24, 2:18 AM

Premium compared to something like a cheap saitek, probably not so premium against some hand crafted $1k+ F16 replica

amadeusOP•7/17/24, 2:22 AM

And even within their lineup they have a range

RRoboGeoff I remember the T50 CM2 grip being called "premium" so I don't know what Virpil's...

Col. Sanders•7/17/24, 2:36 AM

What do you recommend and use?

RoboGeoff•7/17/24, 4:05 AM

Virpil is fine, but to see one being priced at $310 on sale, regular $369.95 seems very overpriced. I see that Virpil has removed that "regular" price from their page in the last few hours even though it's still cached by Google.

amadeusOP•7/17/24, 4:13 AM

relative to what though? this is an all metal grip, with interchangeable hats?

RRoboGeoff Virpil is fine, but to see one being priced at $310 on sale, regular $369.95 see...

nubbins•7/17/24, 4:48 AM

$370 is a bit outrageous but $310 seems about right, I'd expect it to be sold at the latter price

nubbins•7/17/24, 4:48 AM

although I don't really understand the differences in relative pricing between alpha prime and FLNKR in EU vs USA

amadeusOP•7/17/24, 5:03 AM

outrageous relative to what? Like the absolute price? Or is there a better grip for a better price?

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:27 AM

~~better also being relative~~

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:28 AM

If you don't already have a grip, the FLNKR is definitely a solid option

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:29 AM

If you've already got a decent grip, the price can definitely seem steep for what it offers over what you already have (in my case VKB MCG Pro)

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:30 AM

There's no question the grip is solid quality, but is it $310-370 more quality than what I already have? not really

Spitfire ZX•7/17/24, 5:30 AM

I think my hangup is that it's juuuuusssst a little high for what it is, and the market it's releasing into

JJon (Bounty_V)If you've already got a decent grip, the price can definitely seem steep for wha...

amadeusOP•7/17/24, 5:30 AM

it's not competing with the mcg pro tho, it's competing with the gunfighter 4 ultimate which is a lot more money, no?

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:31 AM

hot take: its primary demographic, aside from newcomers or people looking for an upgrade, is to throw virpil fans a bone "here's something even better you can buy now"

Aamadeus it's not competing with the mcg pro tho, it's competing with the gunfighter 4 ul...

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:31 AM

That's a base, not a grip, right?

Spitfire ZX•7/17/24, 5:31 AM

would a nice replica Flanker grip be a neat thing to have? totally, 100%
and the brake lever and slew are nice to have compared to some cheaper options

Spitfire ZX•7/17/24, 5:31 AM

but you can get those on a $200 metal stick from WinWing too

Spitfire ZX•7/17/24, 5:31 AM

and there's no Flanker sim (currently)

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:32 AM

https://www.vkbcontrollers.com/products/gunfighter-iv-modern-combat-edition-ultimate-tabletop

VKB North America

Gunfighter IV ‘Modern Combat Edition’ Ultimate - Tabletop

Gunfighter IV ‘Modern Combat Edition’ Ultimate - Tabletop Dive into the heart of modern aerial combat with the Gunfighter IV ‘Modern Combat Edition’ Ultimate. This joystick is engineered for precision and responsiveness, offering a deeply immersive experience with advanced controls designed for the complexities of mode

amadeusOP•7/17/24, 5:32 AM

whatever the grip that comes with that

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:32 AM

Includes

1 MCG ‘Modern Combat Grip’ – Ultimate
1 Gunfighter IV Base

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:32 AM

Yeah thats the MCG U grip

amadeusOP•7/17/24, 5:32 AM

which is closer in price

Spitfire ZX•7/17/24, 5:32 AM

I don't think it's wildly off at the ~$300 mark, but that's still $370 ish shipped, and then apparently the price is going up by $60 later

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:32 AM

Which is the MCG Pro but metal

amadeusOP•7/17/24, 5:33 AM

right -- my point is -- this is catering to a more luxury/premium category

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:33 AM

I wasn't reading what your point was or which category you were talking about. I was sharing my opinion with what I have, which is the MCG Pro

amadeusOP•7/17/24, 5:33 AM

whether it will sells or not at the price and if people think it's worth it for what they want, time will tell, i guess ultimately what i am saying, i don't think the price is outrageous for the market it's going after

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:33 AM

So for me personally, that's what I was giving my opinion of

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:34 AM

And for me, it isn't enough better

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:34 AM

Even the MCG U isn't enough better than my Pro (I've used an Ultimate before, the GF IV you are talking about it competing with)

amadeusOP•7/17/24, 5:35 AM

yeah -- i'm mostly commenting on that people saying things like virpil is more low end, or that it's outrageous in price, neither of which i agree with, but i'll give it that it's pricier

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:35 AM

Virpil low end??? lmfao

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:35 AM

Where on earth did this hot take originate

Spitfire ZX•7/17/24, 5:35 AM

some of their switches have been pretty bad in the past but that's still a hot take lol

Spitfire ZX•7/17/24, 5:36 AM

they seem to be much improved, and apparently the hats on the FLNKR are much better

amadeusOP•7/17/24, 5:36 AM

i think the point that mostly cracks me up -- is that we're all in a discord paying $800 for a force feedback base, (and for many of us, that's a small percentage of what we've invested in our pitspits)

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:36 AM

I've got a better Virpil hot take

Cyclic grips when

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:37 AM

Specifically models to accompany the existing collective grips

amadeusOP•7/17/24, 5:37 AM

their apache collective looks p nice, would love to get it, not sure how i'd work it into my setup atm, that's my biggest struggle, heh

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:38 AM

What would really cater to the luxury/premium demographic is things being more 1:1 in the cockpit and not yet another generic Russian grip

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:38 AM

I one day want to incorporate a collective into my rig

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:39 AM

But I'm already minmaxing space to work my racing and flying into one thing

ehh, i wouldn't say that, i would say they've always been on the mid to higher end of the mid teir p

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