Well, the OH-6 is free and doesnt' need a base module to work (afaik). It is a hard start, for sure,

Well, the OH-6 is free and doesnt' need a base module to work (afaik). It is a hard start, for sure, but if you learn to fly that, you can fly everything.

HHiob Well, the OH-6 is free and doesnt' need a base module to work (afaik). It is a h...

142nd_Bama•7/23/24, 3:50 PM

Agreed, you tame this thing the rest will be much easier!

HHiob Eventually it clicked. The keyword for me was over-controlling. But I can't imag...

Alighierian•7/23/24, 3:51 PM

Flew the initial version a bit, but yea, it was twitchy.

I think I ended up increasing the sensitivity, and limiting the outer range to match the in-game stick range.
Worked pretty well, actually, and I applied the same thing to the Apache.

Works nicely against over-compensating inputs, actually.

HHiob Eventually it clicked. The keyword for me was over-controlling. But I can't imag...

142nd_Bama•7/23/24, 3:51 PM

I’ve got the cm3 with a 200mm extension, it’s a fantastic setup but still excited to try the rhino!

1142nd_Bama I’ve got the cm3 with a 200mm extension, it’s a fantastic setup but still excite...

HiobOP•7/23/24, 3:53 PM

I had a similar setup befor the rhino. It works as well as it comes with non-ffb. But no comparison to the Rhino.

HHiob Well, the OH-6 is free and doesnt' need a base module to work (afaik). It is a h...

TheAmazinGreat•7/23/24, 3:53 PM

https://tenor.com/view/for-free-adam-sandler-gif-16105496

Tenor

Bob Bushman•7/23/24, 3:54 PM

I had the 1st gen t50 and warbrd gimbals from virpil, but getting the rhino is almost as much a jump in smoothnes and feel as when moving to those from my ch\saitek kit.

Bob Bushman•7/23/24, 3:54 PM

And then you add all the FFB features and trim functions etc

HHiob I had a similar setup befor the rhino. It works as well as it comes with non-ffb...

142nd_Bama•7/23/24, 3:54 PM

My concern was the rhino would be as smooth..

Bob Bushman•7/23/24, 3:54 PM

It's smoother.

BBob Bushman It's smoother.

142nd_Bama•7/23/24, 3:55 PM

Oh wow that’s hard to believe because the cm3 with nyogel is pure butter!

1142nd_Bama Oh wow that’s hard to believe because the cm3 with nyogel is pure butter!

HiobOP•7/23/24, 3:55 PM

Yeah, but still has springs,

HHiob Yeah, but still has springs,

142nd_Bama•7/23/24, 3:55 PM

Not with the cm3

1142nd_Bama Not with the cm3

HiobOP•7/23/24, 3:56 PM

You can't properly force trim and force trim release without ffb.

142nd_Bama•7/23/24, 3:56 PM

Well how I run it anyways

1142nd_Bama Well how I run it anyways

HiobOP•7/23/24, 3:56 PM

yeah, but then you have either a limb stick or a lot of friction/stiction.

Bob Bushman•7/23/24, 3:57 PM

I barely touched the rhino, looked at my virpil gimbals and went "yup, done with them"

HHiob You can't properly force trim and force trim release without ffb.

142nd_Bama•7/23/24, 3:57 PM

This is what I’m looking forward to, with my current setup it’s just a dead stick, stays wherever I leave it but there absolutely no stiction

1142nd_Bama This is what I’m looking forward to, with my current setup it’s just a dead stic...

HiobOP•7/23/24, 3:58 PM

That's kind of impossible....

HHiob That's kind of impossible....😅

142nd_Bama•7/23/24, 3:58 PM

How so?

HiobOP•7/23/24, 3:58 PM

Well, anyhow, eventually you will see for yourself. I'll bet you'll love it.

Bob Bushman•7/23/24, 3:59 PM

I somewhat regret I can only afford\justify one

1142nd_Bama How so?

HiobOP•7/23/24, 3:59 PM

Usually, when you have enough friction to keep it in place, you introduce stiction - can't see how to work around this.

Alighierian•7/23/24, 3:59 PM

That's where proper dampers/grease comes in.

HHiob Usually, when you have enough friction to keep it in place, you introduce sticti...

142nd_Bama•7/23/24, 4:00 PM

There was a little at first but with nyogel it erases it!

Alighierian•7/23/24, 4:01 PM

Had to fiddle a fair bit with my NXT EVO to resolve that, but it can certainly be done.
Ended up getting PG-44A for that.

Still need to have a look at my CM3, however, once I get around to getting some new tools.

Bob Bushman•7/23/24, 4:01 PM

not saying the virpils are bad, but the rhino is all that, and more, and you have a stick that can go seamlessly from heli to fixed wing, without even having to alt-tab let alone swapping out parts

HiobOP•7/23/24, 4:02 PM

Yeah, not hitting on the virpil either. As I said - as good as it gets. But no match to proper FFB imho.

Lt_Dan•7/23/24, 4:36 PM

I’ve just come from a Cm3 base this thing pisses over it big time it’s so smooth and the software is made for 8 year olds is so easy to set up.

HHiob Usually, when you have enough friction to keep it in place, you introduce sticti...

nubbins•7/23/24, 4:36 PM

That's just a lack of nyogel on a beefy damper.

Dracks•7/23/24, 6:44 PM

I agree with friends that the CM3 is very, very good, but the Rhino is really a cut above. I'm hesitating to reorder for a 2nd base (for my Vrpil Alpha stick and its role in my A320

Lt_Dan•7/23/24, 7:11 PM

Hit a patch of grass in the P51 and it ripped the stick out my hand and im only using 50%

LLt_Dan Hit a patch of grass in the P51 and it ripped the stick out my hand and im only ...

HiobOP•7/23/24, 7:36 PM

Eat more protein…..

HiobOP•7/23/24, 7:36 PM

(sorry

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LLt_Dan Hit a patch of grass in the P51 and it ripped the stick out my hand and im only ...

Touch_Of_Legend•7/23/24, 8:45 PM

Yeah that’s me I really never push it past 50% and it’s still by far the best stick you could ever get

AAlighierian Had to fiddle a fair bit with my NXT EVO to resolve that, but it can certainly b...

Ice•7/24/24, 12:20 AM

Realistic force trim (or force trim off) behavior in a helicopter alone is worth having a FFB stick for. I could never ever go back to a non FFB stick.

Ice•7/24/24, 12:20 AM

I pretty much fly the Kiowa/Huey exclusively with no force trim.

Ice•7/24/24, 12:20 AM

But I can hit one button and it turns back on and that is just so... so bad ass.

142nd_Bama•7/24/24, 12:40 AM

Is the overall setup for dcs helos fairly straight forward? I hope to have the rest of the parts in tomorrow and have an operating stick!

IIce I pretty much fly the Kiowa/Huey exclusively with no force trim.

Scarlet•7/24/24, 1:22 AM

I'm looking forward to that so much. DCS choppers are already the best of any Sim, FFB will just make them better

RoboGeoff•7/24/24, 1:26 AM

I was up and running almost right away. The only thing is that I'm used to curves, and can't use them anymore. May just need to get used to it

Reed•7/24/24, 1:27 AM

I use an extension and it helped not having curves or a shorter stick

1142nd_Bama Is the overall setup for dcs helos fairly straight forward? I hope to have the r...

Ice•7/24/24, 1:40 AM

Yep. Not a whole lot different you have to do for helos.

SScarlet I'm looking forward to that so much. DCS choppers are already the best of any Si...

Ice•7/24/24, 1:41 AM

Being able to let go of the stick and it stays right where you leave it is the best. Or if you're using force trim, clicking a trim point and feeling all the resistance fade away is awesome.

RoboGeoff•7/24/24, 1:59 AM

I've only flown the Apache and Kiowa so far on the Rhino

Spanner•7/24/24, 2:05 AM

@walmis submitted a patch to fix TelemFFB for X-Plane: https://github.com/walmis/VPforce-TelemFFB/pull/48

SSpanner @walmis submitted a patch to fix TelemFFB for X-Plane: https://github.com/walmis...

Number481•7/24/24, 4:29 AM

Thanks for this! I have it fixed already locally along with some other updates/fixes but I will take a look at your PR to see if I missed anything

I really appreciate the initiative!