Say I try installing something myself that could lead to issues, what would be a good way to make a

Say I try installing something myself that could lead to issues, what would be a good way to make a "backup" to roll back to with ostree, just in case I need to?

antheas•7/27/24, 6:35 AM

can you give an example of something you'd install

antheas•7/27/24, 6:35 AM

/usr is locked

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 6:35 AM

I know a reinstallation is recommended for it, but say plasma-desktop using layering

AAshlynn Say I try installing something myself that could lead to issues, what would be a...

Pez•7/27/24, 6:35 AM

you can just pin your current deployment

AAshlynn I know a reinstallation is recommended for it, but say plasma-desktop using laye...

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 6:37 AM

Say I try it out and attempt to debug it myself - or idk, say instead of layering I rebase into bazzite-plasma:stable - and try to fix the issues that arise myself. If I find that I can't fix them, I'd want to "roll back" to before I attempted the whole thing

snofox•7/27/24, 6:37 AM

If anyone else asks about 1Password and Firefox native messaging, I'd just link them to this and say it's coming soon

... I'm going to give up and just keep using the flatpak Firefox for now

GitHub

webextensions: add a portal for managing WebExtensions native messa...

This is an implementation of a slightly modified version of the interface proposed in #655 for starting WebExtensions native messaging servers on behalf of a confined web browser.
The main change ...

justarandomplayer0826•7/27/24, 6:38 AM

i have changed my computer resolution and it's now blackscreen in desktop mode, any idea how to change resolution

AAshlynn Say I try it out and attempt to debug it myself - or idk, say instead of layerin...

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 6:38 AM

Id.. pin my current deployment, backup my home folder to another drive or something.. right? And if it totally fails or whatever, I'd rebase back to my pinned deployment and restore my home folder backup?

Pez•7/27/24, 6:38 AM

don't even sweat your home folder

Pez•7/27/24, 6:39 AM

back it up if there's super important shit

Pez•7/27/24, 6:39 AM

Pez•7/27/24, 6:39 AM

i think you need a baseline understanding of how this works

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 6:39 AM

Well, switching from gnome to plasma can end up having issues within the home folder due to configs, iirc

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 6:40 AM

I've done this before on arch and nobara (and clear Linux but that's a diff story), but this time around Id like to be able to say "nah fuck this, this ain't working" and roll back

Pez•7/27/24, 6:40 AM

the whole OS is booted from an image. if you change anything that would alter its immutable state, you need to rebuild this image. that leaves you with an old image and a new one. by default the OS is going to hold onto both in case your new image can't boot etc.

AAshlynn I've done this before on arch and nobara (and clear Linux but that's a diff stor...

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 6:40 AM

So that's kinda why I'm asking about btrfs snapshots and whatnot

justarandomplayer0826•7/27/24, 6:40 AM

i changed the resolution from the desktop mode setting app

PPez the whole OS is booted from an image. if you change anything that would alter it...

Pez•7/27/24, 6:41 AM

your home folder is basically just a wart on top of this step

Pez•7/27/24, 6:41 AM

whether or not it exists is :shrug:

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 6:42 AM

Fair enough, I get that; a lot of DE config files live there though, which is why I'd back it up, personally. That way I can roll back to how it was on gnome if I fuck it up

Pez•7/27/24, 6:42 AM

yeah you can also try making a new user if your old one fails to login etc.

Pez•7/27/24, 6:43 AM

but your home folder is only gonna be touched after the OS already booted

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 6:45 AM

nod

Pez•7/27/24, 6:45 AM

if you're going from gnome>plasma that should probably not be too borked

Pez•7/27/24, 6:47 AM

i think worst case scenario there is rebase to plasma > potentially can't login > make new user

Aantheas Use the systemd service

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 6:58 AM

hmm.. sched_ext repo says scx.servicescx.service is the one to enable for sched_ext, but that doesn't seem to exist on (my) bazzite.. can't seem to find anything helpful about lavd besides the fact that the only tab autocompletion in terminal i have for scx is scx_lavdscx_lavd

antheas•7/27/24, 6:58 AM

cachyos devs: this service is shipped always you can rely on it

antheas•7/27/24, 6:59 AM

me (avg soystemd resistor): im not sure about that

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 6:59 AM

so i guess bazzite doesn't have a systemd service for it yet?

antheas•7/27/24, 7:01 AM

kyle did the packaging for it

antheas•7/27/24, 7:01 AM

and it took him multiple days

antheas•7/27/24, 7:02 AM

so maybe he ommitted it?

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 7:02 AM

or is it just not there because im on stable?

Aantheas me (avg soystemd resistor): im not sure about that

Pez•7/27/24, 7:10 AM

reddit to my ears

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 7:10 AM

kinda confused

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 7:11 AM

I just wanted to enable lavd without having to run sudo scx_lavdsudo scx_lavd every time D: I'm kinda lost as to what y'all are talking about at this point

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 7:23 AM

What's the speed limiter of rpm-ostree changes and whatnot? like, what makes adding layers, topgrade, etc take so long? Is it CPU intensive? RW intensive? not sure how the underlying mechanisms work so dont really understand what's going on to make it take longer than something like arch or whatever

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 7:24 AM

i know its loosely based on docker or git repos, but that's about all i understand

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 7:24 AM

not that im trying to speed it up, im just curious is all

AAshlynn What's the speed limiter of rpm-ostree changes and whatnot? like, what makes add...

asen23•7/27/24, 7:34 AM

afaik it is rw intensive, its kinda like installing your os over and over again

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 7:35 AM

i see. I have bazzite on a samsung 990 EVO nvme drive, running on pcie4, but i guess even that isnt fast enough for quick updates

asen23•7/27/24, 7:35 AM

maybe pcie7 will be fast enough :clueless:

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 7:41 AM

lmao

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 7:42 AM

tar -czvf home.tar.gz ~/tar -czvf home.tar.gz ~/ wonder how long this will take :O

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 7:43 AM

aw, tar isn't multithreaded

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 7:46 AM

tar -c -I 'zstd -4 --long -T0' -f home.tar.xz ~/tar -c -I 'zstd -4 --long -T0' -f home.tar.xz ~/ much better

AAshlynn aw, tar isn't multithreaded

asen23•7/27/24, 8:06 AM

btw rpm-ostree update one layer at a time iirc so it also contribute to the slowness

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 8:10 AM

ahh okay that explains a lot

Froggyman [R5 7600X RX9070XT]•7/27/24, 8:45 AM

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Froggyman [R5 7600X RX9070XT]•7/27/24, 8:45 AM

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