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Count Mancy
I've been thinking about swapping from kde to gnome - curious what problems arise if i don't do a f
I
've been thinking about swapping from kde to gnome
- curious what problems arise if i don
't do a full reinistall
?
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Count Mancy
I've been thinking about swapping from kde to gnome - curious what problems aris...
K
Kamquat
•
8/2/24, 1:35 AM
It will cause many problems
C
Count Mancy
I've been thinking about swapping from kde to gnome - curious what problems aris...
K
Kyle Gospo
•
8/2/24, 1:35 AM
It
's all kinds of things that can break
, that
's why we don
't recommend it
K
Kyle Gospo
•
8/2/24, 1:36 AM
That makes your install borderline unsupportable
K
Kyle Gospo
•
8/2/24, 1:36 AM
You can make a new user to get around it
, but you can
't do that on deck images because your user must be ID 1000
K
Kyle Gospo
•
8/2/24, 1:36 AM
So we always recommend a fresh reinstall if you
're going to change DE
L
Linus Xu
•
8/2/24, 1:37 AM
What about dual booting a KDE image and a GNOME image
?
/jk
C
Count Mancy
OP
•
8/2/24, 1:37 AM
Gotcha
, thanks for the info
!
G
grounded morikami
•
8/2/24, 1:37 AM
KDE
, looks like it
's a wayland issue
K
Kamquat
•
8/2/24, 1:38 AM
As far as I know
, if you
're using Nvidia you want to be on Gnome currently
K
Kamquat
•
8/2/24, 1:38 AM
Plasma and the Nvidia driver don
't get along rn
G
grounded morikami
•
8/2/24, 1:38 AM
darn
G
grounded morikami
•
8/2/24, 1:39 AM
would I need to do a clean install to swap
?
K
Kamquat
•
8/2/24, 1:39 AM
yep
, if you scroll up a tad you
'll see Kyle telling someone else why
K
Kamquat
•
8/2/24, 1:39 AM
cause he just asked about the same thing
G
grounded morikami
KDE, looks like it's a wayland issue 😦
K
Kyle Gospo
•
8/2/24, 1:40 AM
You can always use X11
K
Kyle Gospo
•
8/2/24, 1:40 AM
In the meantime
G
grounded morikami
•
8/2/24, 1:40 AM
I thought it got removed
K
Kyle Gospo
•
8/2/24, 1:41 AM
Not on the nvidia images
K
Kyle Gospo
•
8/2/24, 1:41 AM
we continue to ship it until they get their shit together
G
grounded morikami
•
8/2/24, 1:41 AM
that
's good
G
grounded morikami
•
8/2/24, 1:41 AM
thanks
C
Count Mancy
OP
•
8/2/24, 1:42 AM
The only thing bothering me on kde
/nvidia
/wayland right now is firefox crashing but I
've just been using brave in the meantime
K
Kyle Gospo
Not on the nvidia images
K
Kamquat
•
8/2/24, 1:42 AM
Huh I didn
't know this
. Is there any reason X11 is bad apart from
"Wayland fixes technical
/security issues in X11
"
(i
.e
. will any apps not work
, etc
)
K
Kamquat
Huh I didn't know this. Is there any reason X11 is bad apart from "Wayland fixes...
K
Kyle Gospo
•
8/2/24, 1:44 AM
It
's 40 years old and support for it is going away
K
Kyle Gospo
•
8/2/24, 1:45 AM
KDE has already promised to close
+ won
't fix X11 issues
K
Kyle Gospo
•
8/2/24, 1:45 AM
and GNOME is removing it in Fedora 41
K
Kyle Gospo
It's 40 years old and support for it is going away
K
Kamquat
•
8/2/24, 1:45 AM
No no not what I meant lol I know this
K
Kyle Gospo
•
8/2/24, 1:45 AM
It
'll never have proper HDR
, proper VRR
, or any other thing
K
Kyle Gospo
•
8/2/24, 1:45 AM
so we
'd like it removed asap
K
Kyle Gospo
•
8/2/24, 1:45 AM
Nvidia is the lagging factor
K
Kamquat
•
8/2/24, 1:45 AM
I mean
, I just bought an Nvidia system
. Is there some bad experience I
'll have if I use KDE X11 over Gnome Wayland
K
Kamquat
•
8/2/24, 1:45 AM
that
's what I was asking
K
Kamquat
I mean, I just bought an Nvidia system. Is there some bad experience I'll have i...
K
Kyle Gospo
•
8/2/24, 1:45 AM
yes
, multi
-monitor is problematic
K
Kyle Gospo
•
8/2/24, 1:45 AM
some apps may not work on it
K
Kyle Gospo
•
8/2/24, 1:45 AM
HDR can
't function
K
Kyle Gospo
•
8/2/24, 1:46 AM
and that
's about it for now
K
Kamquat
•
8/2/24, 1:46 AM
ah okay
. So I want to use Gnome Wayland then since I use external displays
G
grounded morikami
•
8/2/24, 1:50 AM
I found with GNOME magnifying caused screen tearing
, on KDE it didn
't
G
grounded morikami
•
8/2/24, 1:51 AM
wondering if this is a KDE issue
-on X11 it lags randomly
(doesn
't blackscreen though unlike Wayland
)
A
Aru
•
8/2/24, 1:54 AM
Wayland is also partly why gamescope and gamescope
-session
(aka game mode
) are even possible
. So Wayland indirectly contributed to the Steam Deck
K
Kamquat
•
8/2/24, 2:01 AM
So what I
'm hearing is Gnome Wayland
, and if I get weird errors just fallback to Gnome X11 for my Nvidia system
K
Kamquat
•
8/2/24, 2:02 AM
I prefer KDE but I can live with Gnome
.
A
Aru
•
8/2/24, 2:13 AM
eh
, I don
't necessarily know if Gnome will be any better though
.
A
Aru
•
8/2/24, 2:13 AM
but doesn
't hurt to try
S
Sascha
•
8/2/24, 2:14 AM
Hello
,
I have a question about the Bazzite installation
.
Can some one help me
?
(Should I write it on another chat
?
)
A
Aru
•
8/2/24, 2:14 AM
my rule of thumb has been
, if I intend on running Linux
, don
't get Nvidia
. period
.
S
Sascha
•
8/2/24, 2:14 AM
thx
S
Sascha
Hello, I have a question about the Bazzite installation. Can some one help me?...
A
Aru
•
8/2/24, 2:15 AM
if it
's something that requires extensive troubleshooting
, probably better to post in
#bazzite
-help
, since devs might not necessarily be around
. having it there will make it easier to track
A
Aru
•
8/2/24, 2:15 AM
but if it
's a quick question
, then probably fine to just ask lol
S
Sascha
•
8/2/24, 2:16 AM
is an installation problem
.
.
.
.
Screen resolution is too big
.
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