https://github.com/hhd-dev/rechunk/issues/2 I also made this issue to track quirks

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OCI Image boot quirks or "The road to `FROM fedora: 40`" · Issue #2...

Lets use this issue to track quirks inherent to booting an OCI image. Hopefully, when this issue closes it will be possible for someone to boot an image made with FROM fedora:40 First lets begin wi...

antheasOP•8/6/24, 2:08 PM

Hopefully colins bites and can help

j0rge•8/6/24, 2:08 PM

subbed

antheasOP•8/6/24, 2:09 PM

Being able to start with a fedora container image would be really cool

antheasOP•8/6/24, 2:09 PM

Would help with package version freezing as well

j0rge•8/6/24, 2:09 PM

yeah I hope we can switch this time

j0rge•8/6/24, 2:10 PM

looks like lots of fyra folks going too, just saw their mastodon

Jj0rge looks like lots of fyra folks going too, just saw their mastodon

Noel•8/6/24, 2:11 PM

Yup! I plan on meeting up with those guys.

Noel•8/6/24, 2:11 PM

Let me know if there are others I should meet and how to get on contact with them @j0rge

j0rge•8/6/24, 2:12 PM

dan walsh will be giving a talk on making a custom image, so syncing with him is good

j0rge•8/6/24, 2:12 PM

and then spin up on zstd:chunked, though at this stage I think it's just waiting for bootc support

Jj0rge dan walsh will be giving a talk on making a custom image, so syncing with him is...

Noel•8/6/24, 2:14 PM

yeah, I plan on attending that.

j0rge•8/6/24, 2:16 PM

actually if you see carl george go up to him and be like "jorge says you're the guy that's going to volunteer to enable centOS builds with a shiny epel gnome and kernel, is that true?"

j0rge•8/6/24, 2:19 PM

https://cfp.fedoraproject.org/flock-2024/talk/ZKETBY/

j0rge•8/6/24, 2:19 PM

oh man

j0rge•8/6/24, 2:19 PM

yessssss

Noel•8/6/24, 2:21 PM

Looks cool.

Robert•8/6/24, 2:33 PM

Some interesting things from the bootc meeting today:
- There's early stage internal conversations about possibly moving rpm-ostree away from ostree-ext, and instead pulling images through bootc (https://github.com/coreos/rpm-ostree/issues/4994)
- Bootc can now pull other images (for use in quadlets) BEFORE boot - pulling the images at the same time as the update. Obviously the main use-case they mentioned is for LLMs so these don't need to be bundled in the same OS image.
- crun-vm has been updated to support running bootc images as a container runtime, which may be useful for testing (https://github.com/containers/crun-vm/commit/a9118ee63c76bf3b0f674eb164b35090f383f862)

RRobert Some interesting things from the bootc meeting today: - There's early stage in...

Noel•8/6/24, 2:39 PM

Sick!

antheasOP•8/6/24, 2:39 PM

There's early stage internal conversations about possibly moving rpm-ostree away from ostree-ext, and instead pulling images through bootc (https://github.com/coreos/rpm-ostree/issues/4994)

antheasOP•8/6/24, 2:39 PM

saw that, interesting

antheasOP•8/6/24, 2:39 PM

podman PR is still not merged

Noel•8/6/24, 2:39 PM

Thanks for attending those in my absence, been super busy as of late.

Aantheas podman PR is still not merged

Robert•8/6/24, 2:40 PM

They said there's people working on this implementation "full-time". It touches many different repos

Aantheas https://github.com/hhd-dev/rechunk/issues/2 I also made this issue to track quir...

antheasOP•8/6/24, 2:40 PM

yeah saw updates, also opened this issue as related

Robert•8/6/24, 2:40 PM

And composefs will only support zstd:chunked

at the current time, composefs requires zstd:chunked images

antheasOP•8/6/24, 2:40 PM

since yeah i had to convert an oci image into an OSTree commit

antheasOP•8/6/24, 2:41 PM

i ran into a bunch of problems head on

antheasOP•8/6/24, 2:41 PM

do we use composefs atm?

Robert•8/6/24, 2:41 PM

Nope

antheasOP•8/6/24, 2:41 PM

i think they mean shipping composefs

antheasOP•8/6/24, 2:41 PM

premade

antheasOP•8/6/24, 2:42 PM

i though ostree had a dial you could enable to turn on composefs locally

antheasOP•8/6/24, 2:42 PM

guess i can check my vm

Robert•8/6/24, 2:42 PM

https://github.com/containers/storage/commit/0b440b9b565548aae75a0d467be1181211ae4113

I think there is, yes. It does an "on-the-fly" conversion, but this obviously requires resources to do

antheasOP•8/6/24, 2:42 PM

oh thats what you mean

antheasOP•8/6/24, 2:43 PM

i thought you meant ostree

antheasOP•8/6/24, 2:43 PM

yeah makes sense for podman

Robert•8/6/24, 2:43 PM

Na. Sorry. I'm all over the place

antheasOP•8/6/24, 2:43 PM

if you tried the on the fly backend you'd know

antheasOP•8/6/24, 2:43 PM

its hot garbage

antheasOP•8/6/24, 2:43 PM

like 4x slower download for gzip

antheasOP•8/6/24, 2:43 PM

they probably need to rewrite it

antheasOP•8/6/24, 2:58 PM

ok seems like we are not using composefs yet

j0rge•8/6/24, 3:08 PM

no, they're goingn to turn it on in 41, we have an open issue in main, it's not straightforward

j0rge•8/6/24, 3:09 PM

for sure don't mess with it on bare metal, use a vm

Jj0rge no, they're goingn to turn it on in 41, we have an open issue in main, it's not ...

antheasOP•8/6/24, 3:12 PM

had a couple of my users say cachyos is faster

antheasOP•8/6/24, 3:12 PM

would have been an easy first thing to check

Jj0rge no, they're goingn to turn it on in 41, we have an open issue in main, it's not ...

antheasOP•8/6/24, 3:18 PM

https://github.com/ublue-os/main/issues/594 saw that, i made rechunk do this now, dunno if you kept up

Aantheas had a couple of my users say cachyos is faster

fiftydinar•8/6/24, 3:19 PM

expected considering how customized it is regarding tweaks

antheasOP•8/6/24, 3:19 PM

a compiler aint gonna do that much of a difference

https://github.com/hhd-dev/rechunk/issues/2 I also made this issue to track quirks

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