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CorrodedCoffin
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iTeachChem Helper
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8/6/24, 6:21 PM
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•
8/6/24, 6:21 PM
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C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:22 PM
Question 1
R
Real potato
•
8/6/24, 6:22 PM
Where is back bonding que
?
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:27 PM
X
-y
, xeof4 wala question
M
Makhana
•
8/6/24, 6:30 PM
Is the answer 10
?
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:30 PM
14
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:30 PM
I got 15 lone pairs
, but dk how many p pi d pi bonds
M
Makhana
•
8/6/24, 6:34 PM
15 lp and one p
Ï€d
Ï€ bond
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:34 PM
How come there
's only one
R
Real potato
•
8/6/24, 6:34 PM
Only oxygen bond is p pi di pi
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:34 PM
There are vacant d orbitals in xe
, and enough lone pairs to give
R
Real potato
•
8/6/24, 6:34 PM
F second period element h d orbital hota hi nhi
R
Real potato
Only oxygen bond is p pi di pi
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:34 PM
Why not the back bond between f and xe
R
Real potato
F second period element h d orbital hota hi nhi
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:35 PM
P toh hai par
C
CorrodedCoffin
Why not the back bond between f and xe
R
Real potato
•
8/6/24, 6:35 PM
F ke pas already sufficient electrons h that is 8
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:35 PM
Yeah and xe has vacant d orbitals
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:36 PM
So it can share
R
Real potato
•
8/6/24, 6:36 PM
It wont
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:36 PM
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:36 PM
This is my understanding of back bonding
, lone pairs go from full filled to vacant orbitals
R
Real potato
•
8/6/24, 6:36 PM
Back bonding to tb krege na jab electron ki kami ho Like in BF3 isme Boron pr e kam hai islie krta h
C
CorrodedCoffin
This is my understanding of back bonding , lone pairs go from full filled to vac...
R
Real potato
•
8/6/24, 6:37 PM
Ha to kahi bhi back bonding thodi krwa denge
R
Real potato
•
8/6/24, 6:37 PM
There are certain cases
R
Real potato
Back bonding to tb krege na jab electron ki kami ho Like in BF3 isme Boron pr e ...
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:38 PM
Boron has vacant p orbital and f has filled p so lone pairs can go forming 3 p pi p pi bonds right
?
R
Real potato
•
8/6/24, 6:38 PM
yeah
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:38 PM
Or only one
R
Real potato
•
8/6/24, 6:38 PM
P to P bhi kr skta h p to d bhi kr skta h
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:38 PM
1 or 3
?
R
Real potato
P to P bhi kr skta h p to d bhi kr skta h
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:39 PM
Boron doesn
't have d
R
Real potato
•
8/6/24, 6:39 PM
General case bol ra hu boron ki baat nhi kr rha hu
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:39 PM
pH
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:39 PM
If bf3 has 3 p pi p pi bonds why can xeof4 not have 5 p pi d pi bonds
R
Real potato
•
8/6/24, 6:40 PM
I didn
’t get ur point
C
CorrodedCoffin
Boron has vacant p orbital and f has filled p so lone pairs can go forming 3 p p...
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:40 PM
Here u agreed 3 back bonds in bf3
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:41 PM
So how can we calc no of back bonds in xeof4
C
CorrodedCoffin
Here u agreed 3 back bonds in bf3
R
Real potato
•
8/6/24, 6:41 PM
its not 3 back bond
R
Real potato
•
8/6/24, 6:41 PM
Har F bari bari deta hai
R
Real potato
yeah
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:41 PM
Why u said
"yeah
"
R
Real potato
•
8/6/24, 6:42 PM
I thought your 3 means 3rd p orbital
R
Real potato
Har F bari bari deta hai
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:42 PM
Matlab it keeps on changing but the total number of p pi p pi bonds is 1 only
R
Real potato
I thought your 3 means 3rd p orbital
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:42 PM
Woh toh bf3 mein kahin nahi hai
R
Real potato
•
8/6/24, 6:42 PM
Yup this is correct
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:42 PM
Same goes for xeof4
?
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:42 PM
1 oxygen and 4 f
, all 5 can give and keep on changing
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:43 PM
Aise toh there can never be more than 1 back bond
R
Real potato
•
8/6/24, 6:43 PM
but back bonding krege kyu
R
Real potato
•
8/6/24, 6:43 PM
Think of a reason first
R
Real potato
but back bonding krege kyu
C
CorrodedCoffin
OP
•
8/6/24, 6:44 PM
In xeof4
?
?
5d orbital is empty
, fluorine and oxygen have lone pairs so they will
R
Real potato
•
8/6/24, 6:44 PM
kya Xe ke pass e ki kami hai
?
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