On Day 2 and haven't seen anything yet that wasn't already caught. For cosmic, may want to include

On Day 2 and haven't seen anything yet that wasn't already caught.

For cosmic, may want to include nmtui since the network manager setting is extremely unfeatured. Everything can be done from nmcli, but nmtui is a little more convenient once things are configured but not exposed graphically by cosmic

MM2 On Day 2 and haven't seen anything yet that wasn't already caught. For cosmic, ...

Gerblesh•8/7/24, 2:19 AM

Another thing I'm curious about is the cosmic store, does it work on the cosmic image without rechunk?

Gerblesh•8/7/24, 3:01 AM

Ah OK looks like the store is just broken for now

MM2 On Day 2 and haven't seen anything yet that wasn't already caught. For cosmic, ...

Gerblesh•8/7/24, 5:02 AM

added nmtui to the PR

QQuantumOGRE That gets me about half way there. The problem is that the lack of tooling with...

xyny•8/7/24, 7:21 AM

this sounds like you're waiting for someone to shill 'my' project: https://blue-build.org/
well, it's not exactly what you want, maybe. you still can't manage disk partitioning, hostnames, etc. in a native container image, since you're building a 'base OS' and not a whole installation like with NixOS.

QuantumOGRE•8/7/24, 7:23 AM

Someone did mention that in general, and there was some discussion there. Some of what I need really is improvements in anaconda or similar. Some is covered by blue-build, and I made some suggestions for possible modules of interest.

QuantumOGRE•8/7/24, 7:23 AM

https://discord.com/channels/1072614816579063828/1074422586894712912/1270456306729357322

QQuantumOGRE Someone did mention that in general, and there was some discussion there. Some...

xyny•8/7/24, 7:30 AM

you talked about some way to include secrets. we've had tangential discussion recently and you can read more there, but the gist is that the container images are usually published to ghcr.io and are thus public, including secrets in it would not be secure. the images are made such that multiple users could use them (though some personal images definitely stretch that). you might want to sacrifice the thinking that everything (including secrets) would be managed by a single system. you can still technically use home-manager on other atomic systems, and there are other good ways to manage and sync secrets locally too AFAIK.

QuantumOGRE•8/7/24, 7:36 AM

I think sops-nix actually hits the sweet spot here. You use a standard tool for secret management (sops) to write encrypted files that can be published publicly, but can only be decrypted on a host using a specific non-published secret (host ssh key most commonly, but something via vault, 1password, etc could also be used). A systemd service does the decryption during boot and writes to somewhere in /run so they're not ever persisted to disk.

QQuantumOGRE I think sops-nix actually hits the sweet spot here. You use a standard tool for ...

xyny•8/7/24, 7:39 AM

sounds nice, i'll look into that

GGerblesh Ah OK looks like the store is just broken for now

M2OP•8/7/24, 7:47 AM

Haven't tried the pop shop out recently

j0rge•8/7/24, 12:49 PM

I'm in calls all day, but noel is speaking at flock today

Robert•8/7/24, 12:51 PM

I believe it should be streamed here in about an hour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=641u-_iXbZk

YouTubeFedora Project

Flock to Fedora Day 1 - Lenovo Room

Welcome to the Flock to Fedora Livestream from Rochester, NY!

View the Schedule: https://cfp.fedoraproject.org/flock-2024/schedule/
View the playlist of other livestreams: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0x39xti0_66gyHdkTSYTABUm2PQ1MGCh
View the Conference Website: https://flocktofedora.org

Join the conference chat on Matrix: https://m...

j0rge•8/7/24, 12:55 PM

I'll be on calls for the next hour, the intro session and keynote are in 5

j0rge•8/7/24, 12:55 PM

if someone shows anything important take a screenshot.

Robert•8/7/24, 1:48 PM

Oh no... Constant freezing on my personal image after switching to Nvidia 560

j0rge•8/7/24, 2:03 PM

j0rge•8/7/24, 2:03 PM

GET IN THERE AND MAKE IT ABOUT THE BLUE

RRobert Oh no... Constant freezing on my personal image after switching to Nvidia 560

Robert•8/7/24, 2:13 PM

Happens when fullscreening anything - F11 in Chrome, viewing a video etc.

j0rge•8/7/24, 2:14 PM

hahah noel's really into it now

j0rge•8/7/24, 2:14 PM

I'm litetally like "GET IN THERE NOEL"

antheas•8/7/24, 2:16 PM

Watching too

antheas•8/7/24, 2:16 PM

Woke up from my siesta right on time

antheas•8/7/24, 2:25 PM

Hhd mentioned

j0rge•8/7/24, 2:27 PM

I love the demo of creating an image

j0rge•8/7/24, 2:27 PM

it's just like "here you go, off to the races"

j0rge•8/7/24, 2:30 PM

I love how he's like "I'm not even using a text editor I'm using the web ui"

j0rge•8/7/24, 2:30 PM

and I'm like, I only use the webui lol

j0rge•8/7/24, 2:32 PM

oh no noel repeat the questions lol

j0rge•8/7/24, 2:38 PM

I don't know what noel had for breakfast but he's fucking nailing it now

j0rge•8/7/24, 2:38 PM

like when he's showing off the screenshots.

Jj0rge I don't know what noel had for breakfast but he's fucking nailing it now

Niklas ⚡•8/7/24, 2:42 PM

Stack of pancakes and some bacon probably. The stuff that makes you happy.

Robert•8/7/24, 2:44 PM

Nvidia 560 Thread

antheas•8/7/24, 2:49 PM

Rechunk mentioned

AfterStory•8/7/24, 2:50 PM

that was a nice presentation

Robert•8/7/24, 2:50 PM

Perfect timing too!

j0rge•8/7/24, 2:53 PM

omg noel repeat the questions I'm dying

Pryka•8/7/24, 2:54 PM

@Noel great watch! Thanks for presentation!

j0rge•8/7/24, 2:54 PM

@Robert (p5) aha! It's working! https://github.com/ublue-os/packages/pull/28

j0rge•8/7/24, 2:55 PM

Noel totally forgot ublue-os/forge hehehe.

j0rge•8/7/24, 2:58 PM

that was awesome, said everything we needed to say, showed off the awesome setups, etc.

j0rge•8/7/24, 2:58 PM

30m until the ultramarine talk, looking forward to that one

ethanjli•8/7/24, 3:04 PM

"We want to improve the out-of-the-box experience, like I talked about. Because this is an experience, it's not an image. It's not an OS." I really like this framing!

antheas•8/7/24, 3:05 PM

We need to get some allys and gos to those talks to show off a lot of the custom work

antheas•8/7/24, 3:05 PM

Not that the steam deck is not a total pain to support

AfterStory•8/7/24, 3:05 PM

it will be funny having the same hardware one using windows and the other using bazzite

antheas•8/7/24, 3:05 PM

Bazzite is the only SteamOS like distro that supports bios and fw updates for Steam Deck

antheas•8/7/24, 3:05 PM

for a reason

Noel•8/7/24, 3:20 PM

@antheas I talked with Dan Walsh and he is very interested in rechunk. Could you DM me a good email address? If you're open to it, Dan Walsh and Giuseppe from the podman team would be very interested in meeting with you on it.

antheas•8/7/24, 3:35 PM

Dmd

Aantheas Dmd

Noel•8/7/24, 4:04 PM

Fired an email off.

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