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Kyle Gospo
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N
Noel
•
8/13/24, 3:42 PM
Look
, y
'all merged rechunk faster than I expected
. I should
've known better
.
K
Kyle Gospo
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N
Noel
•
8/13/24, 3:42 PM
Look buddy
.
K
Kyle Gospo
OP
•
8/13/24, 3:42 PM
nah I got you on local layering too now homie
K
Kyle Gospo
OP
•
8/13/24, 3:42 PM
underpromiser
K
Kyle Gospo
nah I got you on local layering too now homie
N
Noel
•
8/13/24, 3:42 PM
Did you have to disable SElinux
?
N
Noel
•
8/13/24, 3:43 PM
Or did you
, Brian
, and Lennart fix it
?
N
Noel
Did you have to disable SElinux?
K
Kyle Gospo
OP
•
8/13/24, 3:43 PM
nawww
K
Kyle Gospo
nawww
N
Noel
•
8/13/24, 3:44 PM
This must be very new
.
N
Noel
•
8/13/24, 3:44 PM
I am intrigued and terrified
A
antheas
•
8/13/24, 3:44 PM
how do we deal with version drift between sysext and the container image
A
antheas
•
8/13/24, 3:44 PM
do you remake it as part of the ujust and launch with a systemd service
?
A
antheas
•
8/13/24, 3:44 PM
if you do that
'd be very cool
N
Noel
•
8/13/24, 3:45 PM
@Kyle Gospo is lacking in details
. Such a tease
.
A
antheas
how do we deal with version drift between sysext and the container image
K
Kyle Gospo
OP
•
8/13/24, 3:47 PM
TBD
, we can of course ship them as part of the image so they always match as a way to allow uninstallation of applications by deleting the extension
K
Kyle Gospo
OP
•
8/13/24, 3:47 PM
But stuff we aren
't going to include by default is going to need some kind of store or updater
K
Kyle Gospo
OP
•
8/13/24, 3:47 PM
Or
, if built locally
, will need a service to rebuild as needed
K
Kyle Gospo
OP
•
8/13/24, 3:48 PM
It
's more or less a new package format
A
antheas
•
8/13/24, 3:48 PM
im convinced of sysupd and sysext as a packaging format
A
antheas
•
8/13/24, 3:48 PM
yet
A
antheas
•
8/13/24, 3:48 PM
but they solved a lot of problems already
K
Kyle Gospo
It's more or less a new package format
N
Noel
•
8/13/24, 3:49 PM
That
's the biggest concern I have
. I wonder if maybe building a conversion tool that creates it from an RPM would be potentially a good way to go
?
N
Noel
That's the biggest concern I have. I wonder if maybe building a conversion tool ...
K
Kyle Gospo
OP
•
8/13/24, 3:50 PM
Get outta my head
K
Kyle Gospo
OP
•
8/13/24, 3:50 PM
:clueless
:
K
Kyle Gospo
Get outta my head
N
Noel
•
8/13/24, 3:50 PM
No
. I live there rent free with all the others
.
A
antheas
•
8/13/24, 3:50 PM
my idea would be making a large oci image
N
Noel
•
8/13/24, 3:50 PM
Squatter
's rights
.
A
antheas
•
8/13/24, 3:51 PM
then seperating the optional stuff that
'd be sysext to the final layers
A
antheas
•
8/13/24, 3:51 PM
and generating manifests with certain layers missing dynamically
A
antheas
•
8/13/24, 6:02 PM
@Kyle Gospo to celebrate the build today failing
A
antheas
•
8/13/24, 6:02 PM
we should include the kernel with the akmods
A
antheas
•
8/13/24, 6:02 PM
as part of the cache
K
Kyle Gospo
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T
tulip
•
8/13/24, 6:04 PM
WHAT
T
tulip
•
8/13/24, 6:04 PM
how did you actually make it work
K
Kyle Gospo
nawww
T
tulip
•
8/13/24, 6:04 PM
oh my god
T
tulip
•
8/13/24, 6:04 PM
is that like the new sysrtemd version
?
T
tulip
•
8/13/24, 6:04 PM
brah we can already do the cool system extensions then
N
Noel
That's the biggest concern I have. I wonder if maybe building a conversion tool ...
T
tulip
•
8/13/24, 6:05 PM
sadly that would still require doing patchelf prefixes
A
antheas
•
8/13/24, 6:06 PM
for me the problem is the packaging
A
antheas
•
8/13/24, 6:07 PM
like yeah i can call mount
-t overlay myself i dont need systemd to do it
A
antheas
•
8/13/24, 6:07 PM
how do i mage sure the user gets the correct extensions when updating
A
antheas
how do i mage sure the user gets the correct extensions when updating
N
Noel
•
8/13/24, 6:12 PM
yeah
, that
's true
.
A
antheas
we should include the kernel with the akmods
F
fiftydinar
•
8/13/24, 6:12 PM
i thought that akmods
& kernel is tightened since latest tries
A
antheas
•
8/13/24, 6:12 PM
well wrong kernel got into the image
F
fiftydinar
•
8/13/24, 6:12 PM
but yeah
, I get some build errors since 2 days ago cuz of akmods
A
antheas
•
8/13/24, 6:12 PM
just put it in there dont think about it
A
antheas
•
8/13/24, 6:12 PM
and start slowly migrating to using the akmod kernel
A
antheas
how do i mage sure the user gets the correct extensions when updating
B
bketelsen
•
8/13/24, 6:14 PM
this is where the right tooling
/packaging come in to play
. when sysexts are built with the base OS image
, it
's just a matter of wiring things up
.
B
bketelsen
this is where the right tooling/packaging come in to play. when sysexts are buil...
B
bketelsen
•
8/13/24, 6:14 PM
and now we
're one step closer
(tm
)
B
bketelsen
•
8/13/24, 6:14 PM
and then we
're done
B
bketelsen
this is where the right tooling/packaging come in to play. when sysexts are buil...
A
antheas
•
8/13/24, 6:14 PM
exactly
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