If I ignore that error, and manually create the gdm group, I get a desktop! Well, the login screen.

If I ignore that error, and manually create the gdm group, I get a desktop!
Well, the login screen. The desktop isn't loading

Jj0rge I would think so, just get it directly from there is what I'm thinking, and then...

imbev•8/15/24, 7:25 PM

Ok, so 5 years of ublue lts? Since ublue distributes end-user images, I don't think the ability to switch to a different EL clone base will matter. The main distinction is between EL-next and EL

RRobert If I ignore that error, and manually create the gdm group, I get a desktop! Well...

imbev•8/15/24, 7:26 PM

systemd works with bootc, feel free to

systemctl enable gdm

systemctl enable gdm

Jj0rge I would think so, just get it directly from there is what I'm thinking, and then...

imbev•8/15/24, 7:27 PM

Thoughts on the relationship between HeliumOS and ublue lts?

Iimbev systemd works with bootc, feel free to `systemctl enable gdm`

RobertOP•8/15/24, 7:27 PM

It's enabled by default. The primary issue is it fails to start due to gdm group not being present for some reason

RRobert It's enabled by default. The primary issue is it fails to start due to gdm grou...

imbev•8/15/24, 7:28 PM

Strange. Do you have your changes pushed to your branch?

RobertOP•8/15/24, 7:28 PM

All changes are in the

main

main

branch of the main-bootc repo

imbev•8/15/24, 7:31 PM

Have you tried the "Fedora Workstation" group instead of gnome-desktop?

imbev•8/15/24, 7:36 PM

I encountered problems with NetworkManager until I installed the Workstation group

Iimbev Thoughts on the relationship between HeliumOS and ublue lts?

j0rge•8/15/24, 7:50 PM

If I don't have to make bluefin:lts because heliumOS already exists then that would be fine with me too lol

j0rge•8/15/24, 7:53 PM

like if you want to stake the claim for an end user consumable EL atomic images I don't think you'll have much competition, heh.

j0rge•8/15/24, 7:54 PM

but if you want to bring EL expertise to the team and do it all together, also always open to doing everything as a group heh.

imbev•8/15/24, 7:57 PM

I will continue improving HeliumOS, but I would like to collaborate more with you and the rest of ublue.

j0rge•8/15/24, 8:01 PM

always down for that! Has anyone from centos been checking out your stuff? I'd like to get this on shaun mccance's radar if you don't mind

Jj0rge always down for that! Has anyone from centos been checking out your stuff? I'd l...

imbev•8/15/24, 8:05 PM

Joseph Gayoso brought it up in a CentOS Stream Matrix channel, so Shaun is aware

j0rge•8/15/24, 8:06 PM

ah ok, perfect.

imbev•8/15/24, 8:11 PM

I've been most active in https://matrix.to/#/#bootc:fedoraproject.org, which some here may want to join

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j0rge•8/15/24, 11:37 PM

https://github.com/ublue-os/packages/pull/28 I need some RPM person to look at this lint thing?

j0rge•8/16/24, 12:03 AM

@Gerblesh yo!! https://github.com/ublue-os/ublue-update/pull/124

GitHub

Add unit tests and CI by jardon · Pull Request #124 · ublue-os/ublu...

This PR contains the following changes:

Add pytest-based unit tests
Add Github Actions CI for unit tests

I can squash before merging :)
Closes #72

j0rge•8/16/24, 12:03 AM

NICE!

Joseph of Earth 2•8/16/24, 12:38 AM

@imbev a longer support desktop from the Fedora world would be crazy to see. Would be interested to see what the balance looks like between new packages and the stability from staying on something old.

Joseph of Earth 2•8/16/24, 12:39 AM

Shame that it didn't stay on CentOS Stream because it would have been awesome for those guys to have a downstream example that they would like to play with, but Alma's great too. And Alma is a downstream as well.

Joseph of Earth 2•8/16/24, 12:40 AM

On the topic of bootc, I reached out this week to help them start figuring our how they want to market and position bootc and the bootc images. We'll see where they land but it's exciting. Lots of openness to the idea of bootc being an invitation for the community to build something with it.

JJoseph of Earth 2 Shame that it didn't stay on CentOS Stream because it would have been awesome fo...

imbev•8/16/24, 1:16 AM

CentOS Stream and AlmaLinux are similar enough that I think it will be useful

JJoseph of Earth 2 On the topic of bootc, I reached out this week to help them start figuring our h...

imbev•8/16/24, 1:18 AM

bootc is much more approachable for downstream projects

Joseph of Earth 2•8/16/24, 1:26 AM

which i love so much

Joseph of Earth 2•8/16/24, 1:26 AM

What I would like to see is Fedora pick up more of the cloud native methodology that uBlue has if they don't already. But I know @Noel is looking at how that can work.

Joseph of Earth 2•8/16/24, 1:28 AM

Maybe it would be valuable to point folks from the atomic downstream community into the Fedora Atomic Desktops SIG specifically. Besides getting bootc over the line, I imagine that SIG is the next thing that is the most consequential for all of the atomic desktop downstreams. And I think Timothee would be grateful for the help.

Jj0rge @Gerblesh yo!! https://github.com/ublue-os/ublue-update/pull/124

Gerblesh•8/16/24, 1:29 AM

Gerblesh•8/16/24, 1:30 AM

I'll take a look!

Gerblesh•8/16/24, 1:51 AM

I also am figuring we could use some integration testing as well, like loading up a ublue-os/mainublue-os/main container, installing and running ublue-updateublue-update on it. Making sure the RPM installs, ublue-update works, and the systemd service functions

j0rge•8/16/24, 2:10 AM

@Kyle Gospo does merging a change in ublue-os/packages auto kick off a COPR or do I need to press the button?

j0rge•8/16/24, 2:10 AM

I hit refresh a few times in the copr view so I'm assuming I have to hit the button

Jj0rge @Kyle Gospo does merging a change in ublue-os/packages auto kick off a COPR or d...

Kyle Gospo•8/16/24, 2:10 AM

need to press button

j0rge•8/16/24, 2:12 AM

done, neat.

KKyle Gospo need to press button

j0rge•8/16/24, 2:17 AM

oooh: https://docs.pagure.org/copr.copr/user_documentation.html#webhooks

j0rge•8/16/24, 2:18 AM

maybe someday

Jj0rge oooh: https://docs.pagure.org/copr.copr/user_documentation.html#webhooks

Gerblesh•8/16/24, 2:19 AM

the COPR build action uses this IIRC

j0rge•8/16/24, 2:19 AM

Gerblesh•8/16/24, 2:19 AM

just needs to be resurrected

Gerblesh•8/16/24, 2:19 AM

API keys also need rotation

j0rge•8/16/24, 2:19 AM

yeah was just thinking, it'd be neat to just have everything everyone uses in the packages repo and set to rebuild on merge, then we just dependabot all day instead of bothering kyle

Jj0rge yeah was just thinking, it'd be neat to just have everything everyone uses in th...

Gerblesh•8/16/24, 2:20 AM

yeah it'd be cool. I can take a look later at the action

Gerblesh•8/16/24, 2:20 AM

it was supposed to be able to automatically create a COPR, but I'm sure it's not hard to repurpose it to just trigger builds

Gerblesh•8/16/24, 2:21 AM

https://github.com/akdev1l/copr-build

GitHub

GitHub - akdev1l/copr-build: GitHub Action to create copr repositories

GitHub Action to create copr repositories. Contribute to akdev1l/copr-build development by creating an account on GitHub.

Gerblesh•8/16/24, 2:22 AM

This package automates that process so that the repository can add itself to a COPR project. It also allows you to trigger builds for the created package such that you can trigger builds from Github Actions instead of relying on SCM monitoring from COPR.

JJoseph of Earth 2 What I would like to see is Fedora pick up more of the cloud native methodology ...