For clarity, or at least my interpretation, the square frame that it's pictured with, it does **not*

For clarity, or at least my interpretation, the square frame that it's pictured with, it does not come with it. Despite being included in all the photos

Red MagicOP•8/19/24, 5:03 PM

If you want to buy a complete kit with that, get the Flight Sim Cockpit - DCS Edition. The $599 one. It's expensive but it has everything you need, including 3 different kind of universal adapter plates to mount other sticks/throttles. Except for the VPForce, they had to make a separate individual plate for that

Red MagicOP•8/19/24, 5:05 PM

I tried to buy the parts individually to see if I could scrub some unneccessary stuff and save money (essentially instead of buying the cockpit kit, I buy the rudder kit, seat, frame, extentions etc and do it separately that way) but even without a right side mount, it still comes out more expensive than the big bulk cockpit kit.

Red MagicOP•8/19/24, 5:05 PM

Better to just roll with the $599 item and then tack on the VP adapter

Haaank•8/19/24, 5:24 PM

Making your own rig from aluminium profiles can be a lot cheaper, but you’ll have to make a design of your own.

Jon (Bounty_V)•8/19/24, 6:12 PM

You can also just 1:1 rip existing aluminum profile design from places like Monster Tech or TrakRacer etc. Super easy by referencing their manuals. Even easier with a part list that gives dimensions.

Honestly the hard part is sourcing all the important parts like connectors etc.

Getting aluminum profiling in correct dimensions isn't hard, but figuring out the other stuff can be annoying if you are unfamiliar with it all. I still feel super lost trying to navigate the big supplier sites trying to find everything I'd need to DIY on my existing rig.

Alighierian•8/19/24, 6:25 PM

If you can't find a suitable supplier who does uni connector bores (/can do them yourself), it's also an option to go with external corner brackets for everything instead.
Those are generally easier to find, and more flexible in slot dimension requirements etc.

Of course, like uni connectors, they have their own considerations.

The main thing is to find a suitable profile series, and to stick with that as much as possible.
(For example: 40-series metric, i-type slot-8).
Makes your life a lot easier.

Reed•8/19/24, 6:38 PM

I built mine all from extruded aluminum 4040. It had been too bad to find components that work and match my 4040 aluminum is from the UK so I have to buy most everything online to be compatible. It’s really solid though.

RRed Magic For clarity, or at least my interpretation, the square frame that it's pictured ...

Reed•8/19/24, 6:39 PM

Yeah, I just need the plate. I bought the one made by monster Tech, but I don’t like that. It only uses one side to secure the rhino.

Jon (Bounty_V)•8/19/24, 7:29 PM

Yeah there's various suppliers and most of the ones do cut stuff to your request including special things like threadings in various diameters, or to do cutouts for internal brackets (like what Monster Tech uses)

Caprice•8/19/24, 10:12 PM

Does VP have software for bass shakers that could complement the base?

Number481•8/19/24, 10:19 PM

No. The way the motors generate haptic effects and the way a bass shaker work have almost zero in common. One is programmatically starting/stopping one or more periodic effects with a few frequency/intensity parameters... the other is essentially engineering a library of sound waves that will excite a speaker transducer.

NNumber481 No. The way the motors generate haptic effects and the way a bass shaker work h...

Caprice•8/19/24, 10:23 PM

Thanks!

Number481•8/19/24, 10:25 PM

I’ll tell you though, that my vpforce powered collective hard mounted to my chair does a pretty damn good job. I haven’t bothered to reconnect my buttkicker

Red MagicOP•8/19/24, 11:35 PM

I think I said this in support the other day

Red MagicOP•8/19/24, 11:35 PM

But one of the coolest things I noticed with the VPF was that it creates its own haptic effects

Red MagicOP•8/19/24, 11:36 PM

The frequency that the motors can achieve is surprising. Like with engine vibration

Red MagicOP•8/19/24, 11:36 PM

Its so fast but so small, I can't see it looking at the stick. But grab onto it, and I can really feel it shaking in my hand

Red MagicOP•8/19/24, 11:37 PM

It doesn't need some spinning unbalanced motor, or transducer. It creates vibration the good old fashioned way

Red MagicOP•8/19/24, 11:38 PM

just shaking the shit out of itself

Number481•8/19/24, 11:45 PM

I was surprised when I started writing effects for TelemFFB at how well it can even handle multiple simultaneous effects. Rotor whirl + jet engine + cannons? No problem.

Jon (Bounty_V)•8/19/24, 11:48 PM

It's also what makes it seem like blackmagic, and why at least to me Rhino will always be king. The only thing that could be better is if Walmis makes a new and improved Rhino v2.0. Which is in no way necessary, but who knows what the future holds.

Jon (Bounty_V)•8/19/24, 11:50 PM

Regardless, what has been cooked up by Walmis, and huge contributors from the community such as your self, is something truly special nowhere else can come close to touching.

Red MagicOP•8/20/24, 12:02 AM

what would make it better for me is if we got that MFG FFB kit

Jon (Bounty_V)•8/20/24, 12:16 AM

Ah, yeah that too for sure 100%

Greekbull•8/20/24, 1:00 AM

My Rhino arrived today. Getting it mounted in the pit tonight. Excited to try it. I’m do have transducers and use both DCRealistic and SimHaptic in my cockpit to get an amazing experience. Can’t wait to see how this Rhino base works and how it adds to the experience. And of course plan on converting my TPR pedals to FFB here shortly as well.

GGreekbull My Rhino arrived today. Getting it mounted in the pit tonight. Excited to try it...

DARRYL•8/20/24, 1:54 AM

Please let us know how that TPR conversion goes for you. I have a set I might want to convert too some day.

Austringer•8/22/24, 5:43 AM

Anyone else mount their Rhino in a Next Level Racing pit? I am getting up there on the list and want to prepare

Rix•8/22/24, 10:44 AM

Is there any potential issue with EMI if it’s placed next to a large transducer?

PiNKSH!T•8/22/24, 10:54 AM

I think you missed an opportunity here Walmis

PiNKSH!T•8/22/24, 10:55 AM

this is in the comments of HIP yt video for the moza base

PPiNKSH!T I think you missed an opportunity here Walmis

Austringer•8/22/24, 11:30 AM

I loved when the claim was made that Moza was the first to enter the flight sim market for FFB.

Austringer•8/22/24, 11:32 AM

Some of the claimed features in the video are planned features, not features that the software Moza has provided can actually do right now.

Austringer•8/22/24, 11:33 AM

Unfortunately there is a pretty vast difference between reviewers like say Jabbers look at the moza, and Promoters like HIP.

PPiNKSH!T I think you missed an opportunity here Walmis

Vakarian•8/22/24, 11:33 AM

Is it really missed? It's not like the queue is drying up as it is currently

VVakarian Is it really missed? It's not like the queue is drying up as it is currently 🙂

Austringer•8/22/24, 11:34 AM

Well yeah, honestly.

VVakarian Is it really missed? It's not like the queue is drying up as it is currently 🙂

PiNKSH!T•8/22/24, 11:35 AM

Adertising is still good for business though

Austringer•8/22/24, 11:35 AM

Don't get me wrong I like walmis, and Rhino, I'm buying one for review, but a response could've helped at least educate the guy

Austringer•8/22/24, 11:36 AM

He should've done a bit more research himself, but still.

Austringer•8/22/24, 11:36 AM

We all get things wrong, but there is also a point where it becomes a tad silly

Vakarian•8/22/24, 11:40 AM

Idk if it's just my mindset but I really don't really think every Youtuber and their grandmas should get stuff for review just because they have a YT channel with XY amount of subscribers.

Many times have I seen stuff from such Youtubers that's just plain wrong but because they don't know better, the audience they reach takes that at the face value and the circle of misinformation begins.

On the other hand, Rhino is in circulation for a while now. I firmly believe that 90% in the flightsim community have already heard about the Rhino from the owners and DIYers. Better to get a "review" from people actually owning it and using it rather than someone who's just gotten it an played with it for a bit without looking in too deep.

Jon (Bounty_V)•8/22/24, 11:55 AM

Hip isn't a dev

Jon (Bounty_V)•8/22/24, 11:56 AM

And yeah interest isn't slowing at all.

Jon (Bounty_V)•8/22/24, 11:57 AM

Also did hip even join the discord and ask stuff here? Or just typical send an email or dm

Jon (Bounty_V)•8/22/24, 11:58 AM

Can't convince me a genuine effort was made on their part tbh, either in getting a unit for review, or in gathering information about the rhino

Jon (Bounty_V)•8/22/24, 11:58 AM

If anything the comment makes hip look bad, not walmis

Jon (Bounty_V)•8/22/24, 11:58 AM

Just my $0.02

VVakarian Idk if it's just my mindset but I really don't really think every Youtuber and t...

Austringer•8/22/24, 1:47 PM

I don't have a metric ton of subs, but I have really good engagement, Some of the largest channels that review stuff are the worst at reviewing them. I'm sure it has more to do with production value and things like that than actual content.

VVakarian Idk if it's just my mindset but I really don't really think every Youtuber and t...

Austringer•8/22/24, 1:48 PM

In this industry, word of mouth is extremely strong. And sometimes companies don't really realise that. Some companies that are super big in this inudstry are starting to find this out as the competition mounts.

Austringer•8/22/24, 1:48 PM

And you are absolutely right, if you are passionate about flight sim hardware at all, you already knew about Rhino.

JJon (Bounty_V)Hip isn't a dev

Austringer•8/22/24, 1:49 PM

Honestly HIP isn't really a reviewer either, this is just promotion.

For clarity, or at least my interpretation, the square frame that it's pictured with, it does **not*

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