Depends on how ham-fisted you are.. 😂 I joke.. but a few people have accidentally cross threaded

Depends on how ham-fisted you are..

I joke.. but a few people have accidentally cross threaded their grips/extensions onto the default 3d printed adapter.

I and most other users have never had a problem. That said, if it had been an option when I ordered SN#85.. I would have, because... why not.

TeufelHunden•8/19/24, 7:17 PM

I changed my order like 4 time snow...

TeufelHunden•8/19/24, 7:17 PM

is that a problem?

TeufelHunden•8/19/24, 7:17 PM

literally keep adding EVERYTHING

TeufelHunden•8/19/24, 7:17 PM

I think I have added it all now no more that I can add

TeufelHunden•8/19/24, 7:18 PM

hopefully it is not sending it each time i changed it

NNumber481 Depends on how ham-fisted you are.. 😂 I joke.. but a few people have accident...

Bob Bushman•8/19/24, 7:21 PM

I did just that, but printed a new one the day before my alu replacement showed up, still haven't mounted that.

The reason I mangled mine was trying to tweak my z extension slipping, not seeing how it actually had grub screws to fix that.

And I kept trying to mount it while sitting in the pit, with the thing between my legs and the extension still having the grip on.

If you take the rhino out and do this on the work bench or kitchen etc this would not be an issue.

That doesn't hurt to have aluminium one either.

Fr4Ged•8/19/24, 8:07 PM

I'd say get the aluminium adapter if you change grips a lot. else it isn't really a necessity.

Bambusa•8/19/24, 9:26 PM

I'm still having connection issues with DCS. It has worked a few times but then it won't work for a week. The computer sees the base, its powered on but i don't see it listed in DCS and have no control. Does anyone have any ideas?

BBambusa I'm still having connection issues with DCS. It has worked a few times but then...

Number481OP•8/19/24, 10:02 PM

what do you see when you go to: https://vpforcecontrols.com/usb/rhino/ ?

Bambusa•8/19/24, 10:02 PM

connected

Bambusa•8/19/24, 10:02 PM

and the controller moves the dot and the buttons work

Bambusa•8/19/24, 10:03 PM

i also see an ok next to rhino in game controller

Bambusa•8/19/24, 10:05 PM

so it seems to have something to do with my winwing gear

Bambusa•8/19/24, 10:08 PM

when i restart the computer, with only the winwing throttle and rudder pedals on a powered usb hub and the rhino plugged into the motherboard dcs recognizes it and it works. Once i attempt to connect the other powered usb with the mip the rhino stops working and i have no ac control. I need to disconnect the mip and restart the computer again to get it to work

Bambusa•8/19/24, 10:08 PM

all the winwing gear is up to date

Number481OP•8/19/24, 10:15 PM

hmm.. sounds like some low level usb bus shenanegans on your motherboard.. well outside my area of knowledge. Only help I can offer, and its not much help at all, is to ensure your MB's usb drivers are updated. Maybe try to figure out how your USB ports are split across busses and test with the hub(s) and/or the rhino on different ones.

Bambusa•8/19/24, 10:31 PM

ok i'll try that thanks

Wwitcohe Sorry, forgot to mention it's for DCS Update: Figured out the problem. Deselect...

Tumble•8/20/24, 1:13 AM

Hello! Your autopilot wouldn't work unless you Unboxed "Spring Force"?

BBambusa when i restart the computer, with only the winwing throttle and rudder pedals on...

kaltokri•8/20/24, 6:27 AM

In the past I had a lot of strange problems with different usb hubs.
Then I decided to attach all things directly to my mainboard and a 5port USB3.1 internal card.
All problems wend away.
Not all usb hubs are evil. But every time some has strange problems with devices, I ask them to try without usb hub and most of the time it was the root cause.

Kkaltokri In the past I had a lot of strange problems with different usb hubs. Then I deci...

Touch_Of_Legend•8/20/24, 10:46 AM

It’s also the case that some devices when plugged into a USB hub (together) do best when using a “Powered Hub”.

Lots of those issues I’ve found that come up with most controller types are fixed with the powered hub.

So that’s also a thing you can try

Lsd psychosis•8/20/24, 12:26 PM

im probably being thick and need to do something simple , in dcs in the chinook does it have the trim release before moving the stick ie it then holds the stick in place, i have set the stick to no springs ffb in settings is there a binding im missing for it?

LLsd psychosis im probably being thick and need to do something simple , in dcs in the chinook ...

Number481OP•8/20/24, 12:51 PM

See this thread on the forums

ED Forums

No FFB???

I have a dead stick on my Rhino. Is this a bug or it is not implemented yet?

Reed•8/20/24, 1:55 PM

There are 2 different binds for trim in chinook. The trim release bind and the cd AFCs release bind. I went ahead and bound the AFCs release as it doesn’t do anything right now. I use teleffb override trim for chinook and added some damper and friction until they get it sorted. Using the actual ingame trim release causes double movement of the center after releasing the button so not ideal.

Reed•8/20/24, 1:55 PM

I can’t remember the actual name of the other AFCs release.

Lsd psychosis•8/20/24, 2:35 PM

the telffb is great im inpressed with that but i still havent figured out how to set a force trim in the tffb

LLsd psychosis the telffb is great im inpressed with that but i still havent figured out how to...

Number481OP•8/20/24, 2:37 PM

See that screenshot that is linked directly in the forum post link I sent. You need to enable the override spring option and then set up the hardware trim bindings.

Lsd psychosis•8/20/24, 2:48 PM

figured it ut now ty

goobernoodles•8/20/24, 3:08 PM

is it possible to change the email associated with my preorder? i used my work email, and I might have another job opportunity soon...

Number481OP•8/20/24, 3:19 PM

I'm sure it will be no problem. I would just DM walmis and let him know. FYI though, he is out this week https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/968208383251460226/1271827390963781797 so I wouldn't expect a response until he's back in the office

NNumber481 I'm sure it will be no problem. I would just DM walmis and let him know. FYI t...

goobernoodles•8/20/24, 3:25 PM

Cool, thank you.

undercovrr•8/20/24, 9:13 PM

Hey guys, I know Walmis is on a much-deserved holiday, but I'm having issues so I thought I'd reach out.

undercovrr•8/20/24, 9:18 PM

I'm just now setting up my Rhino after some months, mostly job-life stuff, but also I was waiting to see if I can get a VPC MongoosT-50 CM2, which is the one I really wanted.
I was able to snag one on eBay, brand new. Just received it and now when I attach it to the Rhino I get no button presses, none. Grip is totally dead. Pins in the connector all look good, and I'm sure it's seated correctly.
Plus, I have a TM Wartog setup and both the standard TM grip and my add-on TM F18 grip work perfect when mounted on the Rhino.
Additionally, the VPC grip works perfect on the Wartog base.
???

undercovrr•8/20/24, 9:18 PM

Any thoughts?

SamNFTY•8/20/24, 9:19 PM

What grip do you have set in the VPForce Config?

SamNFTY•8/20/24, 9:20 PM

Under the Settings tab it's Grip Type

undercovrr•8/20/24, 9:21 PM

I first tried the VPC T-50CM2
No luck
So, I then tried Generic Grip (debug) and I get all FF's when viewing the debug screen.

undercovrr•8/20/24, 9:21 PM

Also, nothing is registering (button presses) in Windows

SamNFTY•8/20/24, 9:21 PM

Sorry, that's about as in-depth as I've got for ya. Good luck

undercovrr•8/20/24, 9:22 PM

Thanks for trying!

Greekbull•8/20/24, 9:50 PM

I’m confused on how to link Telemffb to DCS. I assume I need to enter a line into the export.lua but can’t find anything on it.

GGreekbull I’m confused on how to link Telemffb to DCS. I assume I need to enter a line int...

Number481OP•8/20/24, 9:59 PM

Start TelemFFB. It checks the export.lua script in saved games and asks you to let it add itself if it’s not there. It also copies over its own lua script

Greekbull•8/20/24, 10:52 PM

Are you guys fighting to recenter the stick. It feels counterintuitive super easy to pull back. In fact when you start to pull back it takes you that way forcefully and then I have to fight to recenter rather than it being harder to pull back and self centering. Is that correct?

GGreekbull Are you guys fighting to recenter the stick. It feels counterintuitive super ea...

Number481OP•8/20/24, 11:07 PM

Uhh…no. Sounds like you’ve got something crossed up somewhere maybe but more info needed. What sim/aircraft are you flying? Are you using TelemFFB and does it happen with/without?

Greekbull•8/20/24, 11:15 PM

Here’s an example of what I’m talking about. I’m in the F-18 atm.

Greekbull•8/20/24, 11:17 PM

This is with Telemffb running

GGreekbull Here’s an example of what I’m talking about. I’m in the F-18 atm.

Number481OP•8/20/24, 11:30 PM

first guess...

Your Y axis is inverted (dot in configurator moves opposite to direction of stick) and rather than invert it in configurator, you have inverted it in DCS to compensate.

The "g force effect" in TelemFFB which applies a constant "forward" force as G loading increases doesn't know you inverted the axis in DCS. So what it thinks is forward is actually back. You can disable the effect to see if it stops happening, but you will want to get your axes set up properly in configurator, otherwise things like trim are also going to be backwards (unless you go in and invert all the FFB tune settings in DCS too)

Greekbull•8/20/24, 11:38 PM

That’s it! lol I need to retrain myself from just making changes in dcs lol. Thanks @Number481

Number481OP•8/20/24, 11:42 PM

There’s only a couple aircraft where you have to invert the FFB on the roll axis (just the FFB, not the axis itself). The F5 comes to mind but I can’t recall the other. One of the warbirds I think.

NNumber481 There’s only a couple aircraft where you have to invert the FFB on the roll axis...

Greekbull•8/21/24, 2:54 AM

So those suggestions worked perfectly. Just about all the modules I’ve tried are awesome with one exception. The F-4 is trying to climb straight up without any stick movement and I can’t seem to trim it. Are there any special tricks to that setup?

GGreekbull So those suggestions worked perfectly. Just about all the modules I’ve tried ar...

Number481OP•8/21/24, 3:10 AM

No.. the F4 should work with just the basic trim bindings in DCS. Shouldn't be any additional settings required.

It is a trim happy bird though.. as in real life, you can't really trim it for sustained hands off flight.

A lot of people, myself included, crank up the FFB gain values in the F4s special settings. I've got mine somewhere around %200 on roll and %250 on pitch. The bobweight and bellows are simulated quite nicely, but the force curves are a little anemic at lower speeds with the default values.

Depends on how ham-fisted you are.. 😂 I joke.. but a few people have accidentally cross threaded

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