Hey everybody, Since weeks now, I don't understand why my Rhino self disconnects while I'm holding i

Hey everybody,
Since weeks now, I don't understand why my Rhino self disconnects while I'm holding it about 3/5 seconds during a hard corner while in Dogfight on IL-2 or DCS.

SubtileOP•8/29/24, 2:01 PM

It's very disapointing.

kaltokri•8/29/24, 2:11 PM

What is your amps settings in the configurator?

SSubtile Hey everybody, Since weeks now, I don't understand why my Rhino self disconnects...

Col. Sanders•8/29/24, 2:14 PM

That is not normal. Most likely a setting issue. Also what do you have to do to recover the ffb?

SSubtile Hey everybody, Since weeks now, I don't understand why my Rhino self disconnects...

Hiob•8/29/24, 2:31 PM

Check the telemetry in the VP configurator while holding the G and see if the Amps exceed the set Amps, if so you need to reduce the spring force a bit. When you overpower the max strength of the motor (which is easy with the wrong settings) it will quit and need resetting.

Hiob•8/29/24, 2:32 PM

Basically you want settings, that do not exceed the maximal amps when you pull maximum deflection with a given spring setting.

SubtileOP•8/29/24, 3:03 PM

SubtileOP•8/29/24, 3:03 PM

my actual settings

SSubtile Click to see attachment

Hiob•8/29/24, 3:24 PM

Spring 100 is too much probably. I drive mine at 75 or something (at most). However the interesting part is the telemetry left of what is depicted in your screenshot.

SSubtile Click to see attachment

Col. Sanders•8/29/24, 3:24 PM

Wow that is some serious spring gain.

Bob Bushman•8/29/24, 3:26 PM

Spring is usually overriden by pot 1.
Its at 100 for me as well but the pot is at 40%

Bob Bushman•8/29/24, 3:26 PM

But that part is cropped out from the screenshot

SSubtile Click to see attachment

Hiob•8/29/24, 3:26 PM

Without seeing the actual telemetry it's all guesswork

Hiob•8/29/24, 3:28 PM

@Subtile The math goes master gain x spring gain x poti (if set to spring). The result shouldn't be any higher than 70-80%, otherwise you will reach max amps before you reach max deflection - and this is the cause of the tilt out.

Hiob•8/29/24, 3:31 PM

You could also increase the max motor current to 30A. Your motors will heat up slightly faster under max load though. -> earlier engagement of the fan.

amadeus•8/29/24, 4:08 PM

Spring gain is most likely not the reason for the disconnects (I assume by disconnects you mean it does that beep and it turns off the motors forcing you to cycle the emergency switch).

The problem is most likely one of the lpf settings in conjunction with other effects

SubtileOP•8/29/24, 4:19 PM

Ok, I'll try some parameters

amadeus•8/29/24, 4:26 PM

What are your effect settings? Perhaps a screenshot of those

amadeus•8/29/24, 4:27 PM

(Also do you have an extension?)

SubtileOP•8/29/24, 5:44 PM

SubtileOP•8/29/24, 5:45 PM

actually it still "tilts"

Aamadeus What are your effect settings? Perhaps a screenshot of those

Hiob•8/29/24, 5:45 PM

Effects gains are only relevant when the sim doesn’t provide own ffb or when made sticky. And they can‘t increase the max strength beyond the master settings.

SubtileOP•8/29/24, 5:45 PM

Hiob•8/29/24, 5:48 PM

Everything apart spring isn’t even activated.
I don’t see something suspicious at first glance tbh….

SSubtile Hey everybody, Since weeks now, I don't understand why my Rhino self disconnects...

walmis•8/29/24, 5:52 PM

Can you elaborate "self disconnect" does it give a long beep or there's a USB reconnection event?

walmis•8/29/24, 5:53 PM

Or short beeps ?

SubtileOP•8/29/24, 5:53 PM

same as the kill switch operation

walmis•8/29/24, 5:54 PM

So it gives short beeps and then reverts to normal operation?

walmis•8/29/24, 5:54 PM

Probably would be helpful to capture the log text in the Debug tab when that happens

SubtileOP•8/29/24, 5:57 PM

I'm catching some logs right now with a try in IL-2GB

SubtileOP•8/29/24, 5:57 PM

to send here

Hiob•8/29/24, 6:09 PM

Maybe a loose connection at the power switch?

SubtileOP•8/29/24, 6:12 PM

I'll try tomorrow then send you logs here

HHiob Effects gains are only relevant when the sim doesn’t provide own ffb or when mad...

amadeus•8/29/24, 6:31 PM

Yes but depending the game, maybe he cranked friction up which is notoriously unstable and games generally won’t override it

SScavenger The lua mostly works, but still not with the trim hat - I think it might be some...

Prometheus [Prom]•8/29/24, 8:18 PM

usually diagonals are actually two switches combined and require the firmware to note that two switches are depressed e.g N & W for the NW diagonal. Perhaps that routine is missing in the vpforce firmware?

Scavenger•8/29/24, 8:33 PM

Scavenger•8/29/24, 8:33 PM

Anyone know why my master gain, periodic effects etc might be repeatedly resetting themselves to 0%?

Scavenger•8/29/24, 8:34 PM

TheAmazinGreat•8/29/24, 8:38 PM

Do you have a sim running?

Scavenger•8/29/24, 8:39 PM

Yes, DCS - Hind flight. TelemFFB is on

Scavenger•8/29/24, 8:41 PM

TheAmazinGreat•8/29/24, 8:41 PM

Stick should go limp when DCS starts and come alive when loading a module. If not, try without TelemFFB and see if it still does the same.

TTheAmazinGreat Stick should go limp when DCS starts and come alive when loading a module. If no...

Scavenger•8/29/24, 8:43 PM

It does seem to come alive, but strangely there appear to be no spring effects whatsoever unless I tick "Override DCS Spring" on TelemFFB

Scavenger•8/29/24, 9:17 PM

Found the issue - I'm an idiot! Didn't realise I didn't have the "Force Trim" setting in DCS settings checked

sorry for the false alarm folks

Gimbal•8/30/24, 9:52 AM

@walmis my reservation ticket has been called, but unfortunately I can't proceed at this time due to other factors, but I have another party interested in taking my slot. Can I just give them the Order Request form and change the contact details?

GGimbal @walmis my reservation ticket has been called, but unfortunately I can't proceed...

walmis•8/30/24, 9:53 AM

Yeah, go ahead

PiNKSH!T•8/30/24, 11:42 AM

hey guys when running il2 what % should I set the constant & periodic effects too in config app? I have them both at 50% for dcs atm

Number481•8/30/24, 11:51 AM

For the TelemFFB effects, its all still based around %50 for periodic and %100 for constant. However, unless its changed recently, the native effects for buffeting, runway rumble and weapons are extremely anemic and lead to very little feedback which is why there are duplicate effects written in TelemFFB.

NNumber481 For the TelemFFB effects, its all still based around %50 for periodic and %100 f...

PiNKSH!T•8/30/24, 12:29 PM

cheers m8

Matei•8/30/24, 1:52 PM

How hot and how much current do the motors use during prelonged usage? Since the design uses DC motors I assume that they use a lot of current at all times when using it

MMatei How hot and how much current do the motors use during prelonged usage? Since the...

Prometheus [Prom]•8/30/24, 2:58 PM

depends, when not doing anything the motors consume 0…most of the time mine are using just single digit watts

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