you could've made the exact same argument back when crysis released that they are just trying to mil
you could've made the exact same argument back when crysis released that they are just trying to milk people's wallets with tech demo material
GExcept I just said the reason it's an issue now is because it's a trend and most studios are getting behind it
GThen it was just one game
Pit's been a trend since fucking doom 3
GScaling resolutions to mask horrible optimization?
Pmaking a game 99% of people can't fucking run
Pyes
Pit has literally been a thing certain studios do ever since we went from doom 1 to doom 3 in ten years and it took another three years before anyone could actually play it reasonably
GOh look all of these cards running at native resolution, and for the top tiered ones they're even running above 60 FPS
Pdo you know how many people actually owned a 6800 ultra when doom 3 released
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Pthis is again like saying "omg it only runs on a supercomputer wtf these guys are shit developers"
Pthis may as well be a list of GPUs nobody owned
Pwhich is again the same thing i am seeing with this new game because nobody even owns the hardware it actually runs on
Plike if anybody is going to complain about this it's the 99% of people who are still running 5-10~ year old hardware
Pbut it doesn't matter as much anymore because we get more than 10 games releasing a year
GIt amazes me that you keep bringing up old hardware when so far outside of the one shot from Doom 3 with old GPUs that was specifically old hardware, The only things ive even posted was 1-2 years old or newer
GSo I'm not really sure why you keep thinking My argument is old GPUs need to run every game forever
Pbecause we always hit a plateau and people stop buying recent stuff
P4000 series might as well be 1% marketshare but it is also bleeding edge hardware
Panything else is old
Pif it's the only thing that can even vaguely push these games then we have hit another plateau
Pthat's why doom 3 and crysis and probably a handful of other games fall in line with this same example
Pthey're games nobody actually played at launch lmao
GDo you know what you call games that aren't played at launch?
GFlops
Pyou think doom 3 and crysis are flops?
GFinancially yes. That's how game studios make money after all is people buying the games when they release
GAs opposed to waiting six or 10 years down the line
Phaving to wait five years to play a game doesn't make it a flop for me
Pand i won't pretend i run the books on these studios to know how they managed their money
GIt's a flop for the company, and if the company loses money or shuts down because nobody could play it
GI'm sure all of those 3D artists are really happy they didn't have to spend time lighting their models
GIf a game releases and the majority of people who would be interested in it can't play it, it's a bad product.
GIt might be good art later on, But video games are products first and foremost
Pif you don't respect video games as art then i begin to realize why we don't see eye to eye
GIf the money doesn't matter at all- It seems like you don't respect the artists
GSurely you think they should be able to be paid for their work
GNot laid off 2 months after the game launches
Ptreating video games as a disposable commodity first and foremost is the reason the industry has churn
Pno you're right actually we should just treat them as little lego studs we can throw in an executive's pocket and subject to churn, crunch, forced overtime, etc. just to make a quick buck and try to inflate public evaluations
Pyou have changed my mind
Pcall of duty black ops 6 coming to stores near you
GI'm starting to think the reason we don't see eye to eye is because you never address any actual point I make, and instead just substitute some goofy argument I didn't make.
GSo I'll be done with this, no point if you aren't reading
Pyour argument is that if i don't support the system that creates unlivable working conditions for artists that i somehow think they don't deserve to be paid for their work
GThanks for confirming that you didn't get it
GThe ball
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