DevHeads IoT Integration Server•15mo ago

@ZacckOsiemo : the AI in Embeetle is not so invasive compared to other IDEs. It's not all the time p

@ZacckOsiemo : the AI in Embeetle is not so invasive compared to other IDEs. It's not all the time pushing stuff while you're coding. At the moment it's only present in a separate chat window that you have to open manually. In the future we might integrate the AI in other parts of the IDE, but we'll always be careful not to become "too pushy".

Ttechielew What model are you working with now

kristof-at-embeetleOP•10/6/24, 5:02 AM

I usually work with ChatGPT4-o and Google Gemini. The great thing about the AI chats in Embeetle IDE is that you can switch between models even mid-conversation. So you can try out a bit of everything.

Kkristof-at-embeetle I usually work with ChatGPT4-o and Google Gemini. The great thing about the AI c...

techielew•10/6/24, 5:02 AM

Is there an embeetle API?

kristof-at-embeetleOP•10/6/24, 5:03 AM

Nope.
But there is an API to the "Pieces for Developers" software we used to integrate the AI into Embeetle. It's a Python API.

Kkristof-at-embeetle There are 49 models to choose from, so I haven't tested them all yet 😅 I must ...

Phoenix•10/6/24, 5:03 AM

Have you noticed any significant differences between the models you’ve tested so far? Curious if some are more efficient or better suited for certain tasks.

Kkristof-at-embeetle @ZacckOsiemo : the AI in Embeetle is not so invasive compared to other IDEs. It'...

ZacckOsiemo•10/6/24, 5:04 AM

I like that part, I have to go to a search window to use the AI is a good start

PPhoenix Have you noticed any significant differences between the models you’ve tested so...

kristof-at-embeetleOP•10/6/24, 5:04 AM

Yeah. I prefer ChatGPT4-o

ZacckOsiemo•10/6/24, 5:04 AM

My team can use that because really we just use it as a search engine

kristof-at-embeetleOP•10/6/24, 5:04 AM

ZacckOsiemo•10/6/24, 5:04 AM

and really we use it to read reference manuals

kristof-at-embeetleOP•10/6/24, 5:04 AM

Great

ZZacckOsiemo and really we use it to read reference manuals

techielew•10/6/24, 5:04 AM

in online or offline mode?

kristof-at-embeetleOP•10/6/24, 5:05 AM

ChatGPT4-o is right now only available in online mode.

kristof-at-embeetleOP•10/6/24, 5:05 AM

As for the offline models, I prefer Mistral-7B

Kkristof-at-embeetle I usually work with ChatGPT4-o and Google Gemini. The great thing about the AI c...

Phoenix•10/6/24, 5:05 AM

How does ChatGPT4-o compare to Google Gemini in your experience so far?

techielew•10/6/24, 5:05 AM

yeah we've been messing around with both GPT and Mistral too

kristof-at-embeetleOP•10/6/24, 5:05 AM

Give it a try:
https://embeetle.com/#embeetle-ide/download

kristof-at-embeetleOP•10/6/24, 5:05 AM

Download Embeetle and launch up the AI in there.

Ttechielew in online or offline mode?

ZacckOsiemo•10/6/24, 5:06 AM

The way we use it is, is if I can't decipher a part of the reference manual as quickly as I want. I ask chatgpt to explain it to me like I am 5. I get the context quickly and go back to code.

ZacckOsiemo•10/6/24, 5:06 AM

Rarely do we use it to generate code or fix bugs

ZacckOsiemo•10/6/24, 5:06 AM

its usually to spot something that would take us too long to spot

Kkristof-at-embeetle Nope. But there is an API to the "Pieces for Developers" software we used to int...

techielew•10/6/24, 5:06 AM

do you plan on it or going to keep it closed

techielew•10/6/24, 5:06 AM

for embeetle

kristof-at-embeetleOP•10/6/24, 5:07 AM

You also have to download "Pieces for Developers". But no worries. It's super easy, and Embeetle guides you the way. When you launch the AI in Embeetle and "Pieces for Developers" is not yet installed or not running, Embeetle shows you how to do it, step-by-step

That's our spirit: we wanna keep things easy. And explain everything right at the moment you need it (eg. when you flash a board and it fails, Embeetle shows you the way forward).

Ttechielew do you plan on it or going to keep it closed

kristof-at-embeetleOP•10/6/24, 5:07 AM

Good question. What would you use an API to Embeetle for?

techielew•10/6/24, 5:08 AM

i have some ideas

kristof-at-embeetleOP•10/6/24, 5:09 AM

@ZacckOsiemo and @Phoenix :
The Embeetle IDE download is around 150MB. Besides, no installation required. Just unzip and run on-the-spot.

techielew•10/6/24, 5:09 AM

I'd like to provide more tools for devs at their fingertips when they're in and around the forum

kristof-at-embeetleOP•10/6/24, 5:09 AM

Cool

kristof-at-embeetleOP•10/6/24, 5:09 AM

Let's discuss that in our meeting soon

techielew•10/6/24, 5:09 AM

it would be useful to have a code editor at minimum that's available right there

techielew•10/6/24, 5:09 AM

yeah we will discuss

Kkristof-at-embeetle @ZacckOsiemo and @Phoenix : The Embeetle IDE download is around 150MB. Besides, ...

ZacckOsiemo•10/6/24, 5:10 AM

too poor at the moment to buy a linux box is the issue :premium_dev_tears:

Kkristof-at-embeetle Good question. What would you use an API to Embeetle for?

ZacckOsiemo•10/6/24, 5:11 AM

to repl all the code people post here and check for errors

techielew•10/6/24, 5:12 AM

while you're using the forum it would be nice to be able to integrate code like zacck says w/o a big hassle

techielew•10/6/24, 5:14 AM

when we kick those ask a developer sessions back into gear it would be dope to be able to follow along with the editor and video in the same ui

techielew•10/6/24, 5:16 AM

For example @Umesh Lokhande and @Edison_ngunjiri have been creating a bunch of sample code for EH sessions; it would be really awesome to have a 'code-with-us' element

techielew•10/6/24, 5:17 AM

@Phoenix do you think that's possible on the site.... PIP with an IDE and video tutorial?

techielew•10/6/24, 5:17 AM

And more importantly would you use it @ZacckOsiemo ?

Ttechielew And more importantly would you use it @ZacckOsiemo ?

ZacckOsiemo•10/6/24, 5:19 AM

The REPL, yeah I can consider it. If DevHeads had some hardware I could ssh into and test with while watching logs and a video of an LED

ZacckOsiemo•10/6/24, 5:20 AM

The thing that is odd here is that our development involves hardware so we have to find a way of tying it in

techielew•10/6/24, 5:20 AM

Emulator?

Phoenix•10/6/24, 5:20 AM

It sounds like a great idea. Having a built-in code editor alongside a video tutorial or during live developer sessions would definitely be useful

Ttechielew Emulator?

ZacckOsiemo•10/6/24, 5:21 AM

no real hardware

Phoenix•10/6/24, 5:21 AM

I think it’s possible, depending on how integrated Embeetle wants to make the experience

techielew•10/6/24, 5:21 AM

well wtf

ZacckOsiemo•10/6/24, 5:22 AM

So sometimes I have hardware than @32bitSaviour doesn't have what I will do is open a vs live code session and connect my hardware to it. He will connect and run some code on it and I'll either watch the hardware or I can point my camera at it.

techielew•10/6/24, 5:22 AM

that's great but what if there are 50 people in the session

ZacckOsiemo•10/6/24, 5:23 AM

it's not that hard its basically VPS based development. If you are old enough to have writtren php on your server from an ssh you have done this

Ttechielew that's great but what if there are 50 people in the session

ZacckOsiemo•10/6/24, 5:23 AM

its how your website works man

ZacckOsiemo•10/6/24, 5:23 AM

this is a problem fixed by @Ming 's generation

@ZacckOsiemo : the AI in Embeetle is not so invasive compared to other IDEs. It's not all the time p

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