because the ideal person wants to try this and if it sort of works they want to go back to their IDE
because the ideal person wants to try this and if it sort of works they want to go back to their IDE and keep on going
Texcept for the fact they probably don't have the hardware... which is the point
ZThat's true, lots of moving parts. However all this is possible.
TMaybe distributor friends would be willing to lend a discount. Everyone who wanted to do it though would probably have to be a pro and provide info
Tbut, it could work
TWho would manage this infrastructure on DH side? @ZacckOsiemo? @Phoenix?
TWhat do we need to support this at high rel
Pwe could manage it, For high reliability, we’d need a sacalable cloud infrastructure to handle increased traffic during live coding sessions. AWS or DigitalOcean could be used for this.
PLoad balancing and redundancy to ensure minimal downtime and consistent performance.
TWhat would that do to our costs
Pcosts will increase based on usage. More users or live events = higher costs for compute power, storage, and bandwidth. Estimation depends on traffic, might see costs start at $100–$500/month for small-scale usage and increase to $1000+ for higher traffic or events.
Zwhat VPS are you using?
PAWS because it offers autoscaling, so you’ll pay more during high traffic, but it’s managed well.
Tyeah sry i should have said ~50 concurrent users
ZI would start with a 5 $ linode and go until it explodes
ZWe dont need autoscaling, it's too ealy
Pwe don't want stuff to explode mid event
ZOh those are the best ones
Pvery bad ux
Zvery big news though
Pemotional damage
Tdifferent kind of explosion
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T^^Umesh during his next Engineering Hour
Zremember this is just. the IDE and we are the benevolent here, we reserve the right to explode when overloaded
Pfor ~50 concurrent users we'd still need servers with enough CPU and RAM to handle that
specially if we’re running a web-based IDE
it would be around $100–$300/month on AWS
specially if we’re running a web-based IDE
it would be around $100–$300/month on AWS
T100-300 more than current? i mean we could get that on patreon
P- $20–$50/month for load balancing if we want to reduce downtime
Pyes
MMy generation solved that one too - Mainframes 
Zknew it
TActually did you run into any punch card systems at uni?
MI was just after punch cards - but we still had to submit jobs through the control. The jobs would be run at some point later and we could pick up the results the next day.
TSo, what do you think about the live team coding idea? Tried something like that before?
MNever tried it - but would be up for it.
UThat is why we use AWS EC2 Instance to deploy client's IoT dashboards to handle higher traffic generated by iot devices (to save server from crash). They are very scalable. I'm not suggesting the use of EC2 for this case but just saying that the similarity between device-to-server and client-to-server communication!
BHey guys 4 years experienced Embedded Developer here 
Experienced in Hardware + firmware design complete projects.
Any project idea suggestions to get into Embedded AI space ? (Training myself to fetch big bucks 1-2 years down the lane). Please suggest
Experienced in Hardware + firmware design complete projects.
Any project idea suggestions to get into Embedded AI space ? (Training myself to fetch big bucks 1-2 years down the lane). Please suggest
THey Bruce, are you familiar with TinyML?
ZOh wow I have something to teach you then 
EHi tinyML would be a good place to start . Also, if you are looking at speech to text or something related to audio in AI, you can try Picovoice. For the two options, they have specific devices supported. I did a project using Portenta H7 on controlling things via voice commands.
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Project: Control LED using voice commands(FULLY OFFLINE AND ON EDGE)
Board: Portenta H7
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BYes have been trying to research about moving into this space online. Overwhelming information available regarding entering the ML / AI space. 
BThank you, will check this out right away.
T@Renuel Roberts any tips for Bruce to get started?
RHello @bruce_wayne are u familiar with python
BYes absolutely. All my career I’ve been scripting using Python and sending commands over Serial or Ethernet to automate testing.
RAhv u worked with any AI related libraries like decision trees, Tensorflow lite and pandas/ numpy or matplotlib for mL
RIf you haven't, start by Data manipulation using pandas and NumPy, understanding algorithms, and working with libraries like Scikit-learn, TensorFlow, and PyTorch.
U can start by creating basic AI chat not till u understand the logic flow to move into complex projects
U can start by creating basic AI chat not till u understand the logic flow to move into complex projects
K@techielew I was just reading the scroll back, this is quite interesting, it also sounds almost identical to a hardware in the loop ci setup with the key differences being we push from users instead of source control (I guess it would be encumbering for users to push git to flash the hardware?) And that users want to poke/shoogle/look at the hardware instead of automated tests.
I'd be interested to discuss further / help with this.
My gut feeling re the aws thing is I'm on the side of the $5 linode - I'm generally of the opinion that if the part talking to hardware needs to scale for users the architecture was built wrong - we usually run these things on something in the raspberry pi territory
P.s. - if you do use a PI, you get the gpios/busses so it's easy to hang off a couple of i2c/spi devices to stimulate various parts of the system, the linode would basically serve some rpc interface which should be very light and the "fancy web stuff" can be done client side - the linode is more there so that you arent exposing a pi in your house to the nasty world
I'd be interested to discuss further / help with this.
My gut feeling re the aws thing is I'm on the side of the $5 linode - I'm generally of the opinion that if the part talking to hardware needs to scale for users the architecture was built wrong - we usually run these things on something in the raspberry pi territory
P.s. - if you do use a PI, you get the gpios/busses so it's easy to hang off a couple of i2c/spi devices to stimulate various parts of the system, the linode would basically serve some rpc interface which should be very light and the "fancy web stuff" can be done client side - the linode is more there so that you arent exposing a pi in your house to the nasty world
