Cloudflare connects me so far away

Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8 · 2024-10-13T17:36:40.671Z

There is a server right near me, I get 1-2ms when pinging 1.1.1.1 but warp and https://speed.cloudflare.com/ connects me so far away. Zero trust is working with this too so it gives so much ping. Since there is no choose server button or anything, how can I fix this?

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/13/24, 5:38 PM

I check https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/ and it's Operational, I check by pinging 1.1.1.1 to confirm. And it still uses so far away servers when it comes to warp and zero trust.

Cloudflare Status

Welcome to Cloudflare's home for real-time and historical data on system performance.

DDeleted_user.0f7anc6e8 I check https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/ and it's Operational, I check by pingi...

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Chaika•10/13/24, 6:01 PM

Routing is not "closest location is fastest" but depends on more complex things such as your ISP's routing decisions/capacity.

WARP is also only available in specific locations. Not available in most smaller locations. What do you mean by "Zero Trust" works with that too? If you turn off warp/any vpn, do you get routed to the closest location on speed.cloudflare.com or on https://cloudflare.com/cdn-cgi/trace ?

CChaika Routing is not "closest location is fastest" but depends on more complex things ...

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/13/24, 6:12 PM

I want to get the closest servers since all my clients are connecting from the same location as I am, to my servers. This makes them get a lot of ping which is not good. And the second thing that I said is warp and zero trust are connecting me to the far servers instead of closest, and low ping ones for me. But if warp is not possible on this location, then zero trust should be possible right? Or why else there is a server here if it's not used for anything.

DDeleted_user.0f7anc6e8 I want to get the closest servers since all my clients are connecting from the s...

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Chaika•10/13/24, 6:17 PM

Would need more information to say more, like the extra routing info I asked for above, but some locations are super small essentially enterprise only locations due to low capacity/high costs

CChaika Would need more information to say more, like the extra routing info I asked for...

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/13/24, 6:19 PM

Is it possible to choose the server like in other vpns? in warp or in zero trust. I'm just curious about those two at the same time so I'm asking at the same time.

DDeleted_user.0f7anc6e8 Is it possible to choose the server like in other vpns? in warp or in zero trust...

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Chaika•10/13/24, 6:20 PM

Is it possible to choose the server like in other vpns? i

No. WARP doesn't really consider itself to be a vpn either, hence the lack of that option. It's more meant for security and speed. It's also quite possible ARN is the closest warp enabled location to you

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Chaika•10/13/24, 6:21 PM

"Zero Trust" is vague and there's a lot of products within it. If you mean with CF Access or something, that's just behind the normal anycast cdn, so no but worth noting it inherits your website's plan for routing preference

CChaika "Zero Trust" is vague and there's a lot of products within it. If you mean with ...

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/13/24, 6:28 PM

So there is no way to host something with low ping without port forwarding?

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/13/24, 6:31 PM

For the clients that are in the same city/country as me

DDeleted_user.0f7anc6e8 So there is no way to host something with low ping without port forwarding?

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Chaika•10/13/24, 7:52 PM

it's def possible, with Cloudflare or other, but for Cloudflare it just depends on their routing

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Chaika•10/13/24, 7:53 PM

If you go to: https://debug.chaika.me/?findColo=true, do any of them route locally to gyd?

CChaika If you go to: https://debug.chaika.me/?findColo=true, do any of them route local...

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/13/24, 8:36 PM

{
  "cdn-cgi": {
    "local-free-v4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-free": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-pro": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-biz": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-ent": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-ent-IPv4-spectrum": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-1111-ipv4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ]
  },
  "durable-object": {
    "colo": "LHR",
    "cached": true
  }
}

{
  "cdn-cgi": {
    "local-free-v4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-free": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-pro": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-biz": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-ent": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-ent-IPv4-spectrum": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-1111-ipv4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ]
  },
  "durable-object": {
    "colo": "LHR",
    "cached": true
  }
}

{
  "cdn-cgi": {
    "local-free-v4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-free": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-pro": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-biz": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-ent": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-ent-IPv4-spectrum": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-1111-ipv4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ]
  },
  "durable-object": {
    "colo": "LHR",
    "cached": true
  }
}

{
  "cdn-cgi": {
    "local-free-v4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-free": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-pro": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-biz": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-ent": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-ent-IPv4-spectrum": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-1111-ipv4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ]
  },
  "durable-object": {
    "colo": "LHR",
    "cached": true
  }
}

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/13/24, 8:38 PM

I tried with some other isp here

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/13/24, 8:38 PM

and it shows this:

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/13/24, 8:39 PM

{
  "cdn-cgi": {
    "local-free": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=FRA"
    ],
    "local-free-v4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=FRA"
    ],
    "local-pro": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=FRA"
    ],
    "local-biz": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=BRU"
    ],
    "local-ent": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=CPH"
    ],
    "local-1111-ipv4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=LLK"
    ],
    "local-ent-IPv4-spectrum": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=ARN"
    ]
  },
  "durable-object": {
    "colo": "ARN",
    "cached": false
  }
}

{
  "cdn-cgi": {
    "local-free": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=FRA"
    ],
    "local-free-v4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=FRA"
    ],
    "local-pro": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=FRA"
    ],
    "local-biz": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=BRU"
    ],
    "local-ent": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=CPH"
    ],
    "local-1111-ipv4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=LLK"
    ],
    "local-ent-IPv4-spectrum": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=ARN"
    ]
  },
  "durable-object": {
    "colo": "ARN",
    "cached": false
  }
}

{
  "cdn-cgi": {
    "local-free": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=FRA"
    ],
    "local-free-v4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=FRA"
    ],
    "local-pro": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=FRA"
    ],
    "local-biz": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=BRU"
    ],
    "local-ent": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=CPH"
    ],
    "local-1111-ipv4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=LLK"
    ],
    "local-ent-IPv4-spectrum": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=ARN"
    ]
  },
  "durable-object": {
    "colo": "ARN",
    "cached": false
  }
}

{
  "cdn-cgi": {
    "local-free": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=FRA"
    ],
    "local-free-v4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=FRA"
    ],
    "local-pro": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=FRA"
    ],
    "local-biz": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=BRU"
    ],
    "local-ent": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=CPH"
    ],
    "local-1111-ipv4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=LLK"
    ],
    "local-ent-IPv4-spectrum": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=ARN"
    ]
  },
  "durable-object": {
    "colo": "ARN",
    "cached": false
  }
}

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/13/24, 8:40 PM

LLK is one of the cloudflare servers here, in other city but it doesn't connect me to there either in zero trust.

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/13/24, 8:42 PM

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/13/24, 8:42 PM

When GYD gets operational, it doesn't connect me to there too :d

DDeleted_user.0f7anc6e8 ``` { "cdn-cgi": { "local-free-v4": [ "IPv4", "colo=AMS" ]...

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Chaika•10/13/24, 8:51 PM

AMS is better/more reasonable then ARN but yea looks like your isp's/their partners routing just don't take you locally.

tracert cloudflare.com

tracert cloudflare.com

may show some interesting information but probably not something that you could fix

CChaika AMS is better/more reasonable then ARN but yea looks like your isp's/their partn...

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/15/24, 8:38 AM

Today it shows it like this, but how can I know which one of theese shows cloudflare zero trust tunnels?

{
  "cdn-cgi": {
    "local-free": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=LLK"
    ],
    "local-free-v4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=LLK"
    ],
    "local-pro": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-biz": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=GYD"
    ],
    "local-ent": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=ARN"
    ],
    "local-1111-ipv4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=GYD"
    ],
    "local-ent-IPv4-spectrum": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=ARN"
    ]
  },
  "durable-object": {
    "colo": "ARN",
    "cached": true
  }
}

{
  "cdn-cgi": {
    "local-free": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=LLK"
    ],
    "local-free-v4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=LLK"
    ],
    "local-pro": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-biz": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=GYD"
    ],
    "local-ent": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=ARN"
    ],
    "local-1111-ipv4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=GYD"
    ],
    "local-ent-IPv4-spectrum": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=ARN"
    ]
  },
  "durable-object": {
    "colo": "ARN",
    "cached": true
  }
}

{
  "cdn-cgi": {
    "local-free": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=LLK"
    ],
    "local-free-v4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=LLK"
    ],
    "local-pro": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-biz": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=GYD"
    ],
    "local-ent": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=ARN"
    ],
    "local-1111-ipv4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=GYD"
    ],
    "local-ent-IPv4-spectrum": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=ARN"
    ]
  },
  "durable-object": {
    "colo": "ARN",
    "cached": true
  }
}

{
  "cdn-cgi": {
    "local-free": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=LLK"
    ],
    "local-free-v4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=LLK"
    ],
    "local-pro": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=AMS"
    ],
    "local-biz": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=GYD"
    ],
    "local-ent": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=ARN"
    ],
    "local-1111-ipv4": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=GYD"
    ],
    "local-ent-IPv4-spectrum": [
      "IPv4",
      "colo=ARN"
    ]
  },
  "durable-object": {
    "colo": "ARN",
    "cached": true
  }
}

DDeleted_user.0f7anc6e8 Today it shows it like this, but how can I know which one of theese shows cloudf...

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Chaika•10/15/24, 12:53 PM

If you're using free plan, should have around the same routing as

local-free

local-free

option. It looks unstable though considering higher plans don't get routed to it

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Chaika•10/15/24, 12:53 PM

You can go to https://<your-access-domain>/cdn-cgi/trace and look for the

colo=

colo=

line to see which you connect to for it

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Chaika•10/15/24, 12:54 PM

Tunnels themselves connect to a few closer locations without caring about your zone plan's routing, so you end up with something like:
User -> CF Colo (ex: LLK) -> CF Tunnel -> CF Tunnel Colo (ex: AMS) -> Cloudflared running locally.
You can check in your tunnel logs (

journalctl -u cloudflared -f --lines=100

journalctl -u cloudflared -f --lines=100

where its connecting

CChaika You can go to https://<your-access-domain>/cdn-cgi/trace and look for the `colo=...

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/15/24, 12:58 PM

Screenshot_2024-10-15-16-57-59-222_com.teamviewer.teamviewer.market.mobile.jpg

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Chaika•10/15/24, 12:59 PM

LLK's closer, yea? The magic of waiting for ISPs to fix their routing

CChaika LLK's closer, yea? The magic of waiting for ISPs to fix their routing

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/15/24, 1:01 PM

:d

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/15/24, 1:01 PM

the closest is GYD, and second closest is LLK

CChaika LLK's closer, yea? The magic of waiting for ISPs to fix their routing

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/15/24, 1:02 PM

I wonder if I call them about this, will they know what I'm talking about

DDeleted_user.0f7anc6e8 I wonder if I call them about this, will they know what I'm talking about

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Chaika•10/15/24, 1:03 PM

depends on how big/nice your isp is

CChaika depends on how big/nice your isp is

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/15/24, 1:04 PM

Hmm it gives internet to whole country, but it's a small country so I think I would only know that by trying calling

CChaika Tunnels themselves connect to a few closer locations without caring about your z...

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/15/24, 1:05 PM

What does colo do?

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/15/24, 1:05 PM

CF colo

DDeleted_user.0f7anc6e8 What does colo do?

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Chaika•10/15/24, 1:05 PM

airport code of the Cloudflare datacenter you are connecting to

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Chaika•10/15/24, 1:06 PM

If you mean their actual use: It's what is processing your requests (decrypting ssl, handling locally if it can, proxying request to your origin otherwise, etc)

CChaika If you mean their actual use: It's what is processing your requests (decrypting ...

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/15/24, 1:06 PM

So it actls like a DNS server right?

DDeleted_user.0f7anc6e8 So it actls like a DNS server right?

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Chaika•10/15/24, 1:07 PM

For 1.1.1.1 it acts as a dns server, yes. For http request it's acting as the reverse proxy, like nginx

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Chaika•10/15/24, 1:07 PM

It's just the location Cloudflare has physical machines and is processing at (including http/dns/spectrum apps, etc)

CChaika For 1.1.1.1 it acts as a dns server, yes. For http request it's acting as the re...

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/15/24, 3:06 PM

Since there is literally no server for anything in my country, my wish is to get low ping from anything possible. Like when I host a minecraft server, everyone gets 500 ping from it :d

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/15/24, 3:07 PM

And that's because, relay servers are so far away

CChaika If you go to: https://debug.chaika.me/?findColo=true, do any of them route local...

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/16/24, 7:47 AM

Can I ask how did you make that? I want to have something similar to that, that shows cloudflare servers

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Deleted_user.0f7anc6e8OP•10/16/24, 7:47 AM

Just the same thing

DDeleted_user.0f7anc6e8 Can I ask how did you make that? I want to have something similar to that, that ...

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