yeah create-cloudflare changes the `name` of the worker but not the references to itself 😅 - this

yeah create-cloudflare changes the

name

name

of the worker but not the references to itself

this is a bug thanks

sdr•10/24/24, 5:12 PM

Ok cool!

sdr•10/24/24, 5:30 PM

I get an error when I try to use the

wrangler workflows delete ...

wrangler workflows delete ...

command

✘ [ERROR] A request to the Cloudflare API (/accounts/{ACCOUNT_ID}/workflows/workflows-starter) failed.
workflows.api.error.not_found [code: 10000]

I see that the delete endpoint isnt in the api docs, does this command not work yet?

Ssdr I get an error when I try to use the `wrangler workflows delete ...` command ✘ ...

Diogo Ferreira•10/24/24, 5:34 PM

Yes, unfortunately deleting a Workflow is not possible for the moment.

SSeekerdasbatatas yeah create-cloudflare changes the `name` of the worker but not the references t...

Matt Silverlock•10/24/24, 5:39 PM

Removed the fixed

script_name

script_name

references in the config.

sdr•10/24/24, 5:48 PM

Using wrangler how do I get the json output of the workflow instance? I see theres a prod api endpoint to describe it but the wrangler command prints out a formatted list

wrangler workflows instances describe workflows-starter something

wrangler workflows instances describe workflows-starter something

MMatt Silverlock Removed the fixed `script_name` references in the config.

Matt Silverlock•10/24/24, 5:48 PM

PR for how you can use it to bind to a Workflow in a different script: https://github.com/cloudflare/cloudflare-docs/pull/17770

DiamondDragon•10/24/24, 6:04 PM

how do we test the workflow using

wrangler dev

wrangler dev

✔ script to run › dev

> workflows-starter@0.0.1 dev /Users/am/Coding/2024/workflows-starter
> wrangler dev


 ⛅️ wrangler 3.83.0
-------------------

Your worker has access to the following bindings:
- Workflows:
  - MY_WORKFLOW: MyWorkflow
⎔ Starting local server...
[wrangler:inf] Ready on http://localhost:8787

✔ script to run › dev

> workflows-starter@0.0.1 dev /Users/am/Coding/2024/workflows-starter
> wrangler dev


 ⛅️ wrangler 3.83.0
-------------------

Your worker has access to the following bindings:
- Workflows:
  - MY_WORKFLOW: MyWorkflow
⎔ Starting local server...
[wrangler:inf] Ready on http://localhost:8787

Advany•10/24/24, 6:11 PM

would workflows work for workers for platforms? Use case would be generating dispatch workers with custom workflows based on user input... Would I be able to add the workflows to the same dispatch workers and create the binding to it?

LordSilver•10/24/24, 8:52 PM

mmm k, lemme see

LordSilver•10/24/24, 8:52 PM

mmm, nice tutorial indeed

LordSilver•10/24/24, 8:54 PM

my ADHD has issues processing the wall of text of the blog post, maybe with some pagination i could have tricked my brain to swallow the bullet

fry69•10/24/24, 8:54 PM

See the guide -> https://developers.cloudflare.com/workflows/get-started/guide/

sdr•10/24/24, 9:56 PM

Will we be able to set a workflow binding within a pages app sometime soon?

makrdev•10/24/24, 10:05 PM

Congratulations on the beta release! What are your thoughts on the future of Workflows? How do you plan to evolve it? Is it going to be a fully developed workflow system like Inngest or Trigger, or is it just the foundation?

Dmitry•10/24/24, 10:48 PM

Been waiting to try out Workflows for sooooo long! So glad it's finally here

Was playing around with it a bit ... so cool and easy to use!

LLordSilver mmm k, lemme see

Matt Silverlock•10/24/24, 10:48 PM

Getting this link fixed.

Mmakrdev Congratulations on the beta release! What are your thoughts on the future of Wor...

Matt Silverlock•10/24/24, 10:48 PM

This is just early days: it's a beta

Dmitry•10/24/24, 10:48 PM

I might be able to even swap out Temporal for Cloudflare Workflows

Dmitry•10/24/24, 10:52 PM

I'm sure this has already been reported.. but seeing some weird flashing in terms to statuses?

Dmitry•10/24/24, 10:52 PM

Like it flashes from Completed to Errored?

Dmitry•10/24/24, 10:53 PM

Look's like it flashes when it's "Updating" ?

Dmitry•10/24/24, 10:56 PM

fry69•10/24/24, 10:57 PM

There might be some rough edges indeed -> workflows

Dmitry•10/24/24, 10:59 PM

Hmm interesting

Feel like that would have been something someone would have noticed with months of testing

Dmitry•10/24/24, 10:59 PM

Will keep reporting the bugs as I see them

Dmitry•10/24/24, 11:06 PM

Even though my wall time says 5s 123ms (at the top).. I'm only getting charged the 2 wall times for when my function ran correct (26ms and 24ms respectively)? Shouldn't the "Wall Time" at the top right there say 26ms+24ms instead of 5s 123ms?

Dmitry•10/24/24, 11:06 PM

Cause wall time is what we're being charged correct?

Dmitry•10/24/24, 11:06 PM

I'm not being charged for 5s 123ms of wall time here?

DDmitry I'm not being charged for 5s 123ms of wall time here?

fry69•10/24/24, 11:07 PM

As far as I know Cloudflare never charges for wall time, only for CPU time

DDmitry Cause wall time is what we're being charged correct?

Matt Silverlock•10/24/24, 11:26 PM

CPU time only. Covered in the docs and the blog post:

Cloudflare Docs

Pricing | Cloudflare Workflows docs

Workflows pricing is identical to Workers Standard pricing and are billed on two dimensions:

The Cloudflare Blog

Build durable applications on Cloudflare Workers: you write the Wor...

Cloudflare Workflows is now in open beta! Workflows allows you to build reliable, repeatable, long-lived multi-step applications that can automatically retry, persist state, and scale out. Read on to learn how Workflows works, how we built it on top of Durable Objects, and how you can deploy your first Workflows application.

MMatt Silverlock CPU time only. Covered in the docs and the blog post: * https://developers.cloud...

Dmitry•10/24/24, 11:27 PM

Gotcha I thought Wall Time = CPU Time

Dmitry•10/24/24, 11:27 PM

Makes more sense now thanks!

dave•10/25/24, 1:16 AM

Any technical downside to using custom IDs instead of the randomly generated ones?

Elliot Hesp•10/25/24, 6:29 AM

What are the memory constraints inside of a workflow? E.g download a big file, then do some processing in the next step

EElliot Hesp What are the memory constraints inside of a workflow? E.g download a big file, t...

fry69•10/25/24, 6:32 AM

-> https://developers.cloudflare.com/workflows/reference/limits/

dragonli•10/25/24, 6:46 AM

What is the maximum size of a workflow request body?

Ddragonli What is the maximum size of a workflow request body?

SeekerdasbatatasOP•10/25/24, 7:03 AM

If you mean the workflow instance payload ~1MiB

SSeekerdasbatatas If you mean the workflow instance payload ~1MiB

Advany•10/25/24, 7:41 AM

A way around that would be to save it to r2/kv and then use in the next step?

AAdvany A way around that would be to save it to r2/kv and then use in the next step?

SeekerdasbatatasOP•10/25/24, 8:11 AM

Exactly, I had an idea to make an abstraction on top of workflows to save every step to R2 and lazily load steps as you actually need them, we don't do it by default because it kind of defeats the purpose of the free tier

Cool side project for someone

as I don't have that much time to do it haahhaha

SSeekerdasbatatas If you mean the workflow instance payload ~1MiB

dragonli•10/25/24, 8:36 AM

SSeekerdasbatatas If you mean the workflow instance payload ~1MiB

DoggeSlapper•10/25/24, 8:47 AM

is there a simple way to let's say deploy hono into multiple workers?

DoggeSlapper•10/25/24, 8:47 AM

rn my build is quite small about 40kb but not sure how big things will get

DoggeSlapper•10/25/24, 8:48 AM

but well on paid plan there is bigger limit right?

SSeekerdasbatatas Exactly, I had an idea to make an abstraction on top of workflows to save every ...

Advany•10/25/24, 9:05 AM

looping at the code, you would not be able to emake an abstraction right. Because RPC is the only way to save it outside the step... So it would be creating something inside the step to 'save to r2' and 'get from r2'. It wouldn't be easier that just using the binding haha. Or am I missing something?

Ddave Any technical downside to using custom IDs instead of the randomly generated one...

Matt Silverlock•10/25/24, 9:31 AM

None.

LordSilver•10/25/24, 10:37 AM

Isn't this an oxymoron?

LordSilver•10/25/24, 10:37 AM

So you pay for CPU time, but you don't pay for Subrequests.

LordSilver•10/25/24, 10:39 AM

So if in my workflow I use fetch to get data from a website and that request takes 3s, I'm billed for that 3s of CPU time, so it's like I paid for the subrequest.

LLordSilver So if in my workflow I use fetch to get data from a website and that request tak...

fry69•10/25/24, 10:39 AM

Wall time (e.g. awaiting a fetch request) is not CPU time.

✔ script to run › dev > workflows-starter@0.0.1 dev /Users/am/Coding/2024/workflows-starter > wrangler dev ⛅️ wrangler 3.83.0 ------------------- Your worker has access to the following bindings: - Workflows: - MY_WORKFLOW: MyWorkflow ⎔ Starting local server... [wrangler:inf] Ready on http://localhost:8787

yeah create-cloudflare changes the `name` of the worker but not the references to itself 😅 - this

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