If you're using KV and you want to measure it's real easy and nothing fancy, just performance.now()

If you're using KV and you want to measure it's real easy and nothing fancy, just performance.now() and writing to Cloudflare's Analytics Engine, ex:

        var startReq = performance.now();
        await env.KV.put(key, req.body, { // or get
    
        });
        var getDur = performance.now() - startReq;
        if (env.AE)
          env.AE.writeDataPoint({
              blobs: [],
              doubles: [getDur],
              indexes: [key]
            });
...

        var startReq = performance.now();
        await env.KV.put(key, req.body, { // or get
    
        });
        var getDur = performance.now() - startReq;
        if (env.AE)
          env.AE.writeDataPoint({
              blobs: [],
              doubles: [getDur],
              indexes: [key]
            });
...

        var startReq = performance.now();
        await env.KV.put(key, req.body, { // or get
    
        });
        var getDur = performance.now() - startReq;
        if (env.AE)
          env.AE.writeDataPoint({
              blobs: [],
              doubles: [getDur],
              indexes: [key]
            });
...

        var startReq = performance.now();
        await env.KV.put(key, req.body, { // or get
    
        });
        var getDur = performance.now() - startReq;
        if (env.AE)
          env.AE.writeDataPoint({
              blobs: [],
              doubles: [getDur],
              indexes: [key]
            });
...

Then you can use Grafana w/ AE and build nice dashboards relatively easily

CChaika If you're using KV and you want to measure it's real easy and nothing fancy, jus...

elpupper•10/31/24, 6:15 PM

quick question since you seem like you know the ins and outs. How would you go about serving static content? with wildcard domains

would you just store everything in a r2 bucket, then have a worker in the front responding with the proper files?

Eelpupper quick question since you seem like you know the ins and outs. How would you go a...

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 6:16 PM

wildcard domains being one of your domains, all subdomains, or as in you'd want to hook up customer domains?

CChaika wildcard domains being one of your domains, all subdomains, or as in you'd want ...

elpupper•10/31/24, 6:18 PM

both

elpupper•10/31/24, 6:19 PM

I thought i might get away with doing cd of CF pages

elpupper•10/31/24, 6:19 PM

But doesnt seem like i can

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 6:19 PM

with the same set of static assets for all, or would customers have different ones or something?

CChaika with the same set of static assets for all, or would customers have different on...

elpupper•10/31/24, 6:19 PM

Different

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 6:20 PM

For customer domains you need CF For SaaS on top, and you can't do wildcard with CF For SaaS without Enterprise

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 6:20 PM

you could go Workers Static Assets, pay nothing for requests like pages, and use wildcard routes for your own domain

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 6:21 PM

then you can use CF For SaaS easily with plain Workers

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 6:21 PM

if you need lots of customer assets though, well you can only have 500 workers even on paid, and there's limits on assets/would be messy to intermingle, you'd probably want to just throw their custom stuff into KV

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 6:22 PM

KV is 25 MiB max though, per key (just like Pages and Workers Assets)

CChaika you could go Workers Static Assets, pay nothing for requests like pages, and use...

elpupper•10/31/24, 6:23 PM

I think this is what i need

CChaika if you need lots of customer assets though, well you can only have 500 workers e...

elpupper•10/31/24, 6:25 PM

What about queues

CChaika if you need lots of customer assets though, well you can only have 500 workers e...

elpupper•10/31/24, 6:26 PM

I will see as the content is statically generated

Eelpupper What about queues

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 6:26 PM

what about them?

CChaika what about them?

elpupper•10/31/24, 6:27 PM

Cant i offload the workload to them?

elpupper•10/31/24, 6:27 PM

I think 500 workers are more than enough for ~10m requests a day

Eelpupper I think 500 workers are more than enough for ~10m requests a day

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 6:28 PM

wat

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 6:28 PM

I was saying 500 workers max as you'd likely want to do a worker per customer, like you would a pages project per customer, if they had all their own assets. But hard with the hard-ish cap on workers

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 6:29 PM

500 Workers, meaning, only 500 Cloudflare Workers you can create. A Single worker can do a billion requests, not limited in scale, or running location, or anything

CChaika I was saying 500 workers max as you'd likely want to do a worker per customer, l...

elpupper•10/31/24, 6:30 PM

Why would i do that? Seems like a waste of resources

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 6:31 PM

so they can have their own static assets?

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 6:31 PM

can't quite throw a ton of customer static assets into a single worker

CChaika so they can have their own static assets?

elpupper•10/31/24, 6:31 PM

But i can just throw it into a r2 bucket

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 6:31 PM

You could. You pay for those requests though

elpupper•10/31/24, 6:31 PM

How much?

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 6:32 PM

https://developers.cloudflare.com/r2/pricing/

Cloudflare Docs

Pricing | Cloudflare R2 docs

R2 charges based on the total volume of data stored, along with two classes of operations on that data:

elpupper•10/31/24, 6:32 PM

Let me see

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 6:32 PM

GETs are Class Bs, you'd want Frequently Accessed Storage + storage cost

elpupper•10/31/24, 6:32 PM

0.36$ per million reads

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 6:32 PM

If you're going Worker, you'd want to use the R2 Binding, and then you'd want to use the Cache API as well. Worth noting any Cache API hits wouldn't cost you anything

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 6:33 PM

yea relatively cheap, cheaper then KV at $0.50 per mil

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 6:33 PM

still not cheaper then Worker Static Assets unlimited free requests, plus versioning and such

elpupper•10/31/24, 6:33 PM

:pepethink:

elpupper•10/31/24, 6:34 PM

Would cloudflare let me buy server slot(s) on their data centers?

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 6:35 PM

can't buy vps's or dedi's no, Cloudflare also doesn't own any data centers, merely colocating at existing ones, possible you could colocate at the same location but why

CChaika can't buy vps's or dedi's no, Cloudflare also doesn't own any data centers, mere...

elpupper•10/31/24, 6:35 PM

Hmm

CChaika can't buy vps's or dedi's no, Cloudflare also doesn't own any data centers, mere...

elpupper•10/31/24, 6:36 PM

Well my initial plan was to buy server space and my own hardware and run everything on nixos using microvm.nix and firecracker

elpupper•10/31/24, 6:36 PM

Since there isnt much reliable hosting here where i am

elpupper•10/31/24, 6:36 PM

But i saw cloudflare has servers here

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 6:39 PM

could try finding the Facility they're in and colocating there, possible it's listed on Cloudflare's peeringdb, I'm sure you could google for datacenters in your area as well to colocate in

elpupper•10/31/24, 6:42 PM

I will have a look but i will have a go at cloudflare firstly since its light on $$

CChaika could try finding the Facility they're in and colocating there, possible it's li...

elpupper•10/31/24, 6:43 PM

i appreciate your information your a legend thanks

ziegfried•10/31/24, 7:17 PM

I getting an error “invalid hostname” when trying to add a custom domain with a wildcard to my worker. This worked in the past. Anybody know what's up with that?

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 7:18 PM

Worker Custom Domains can't be wildcard, only routes

ziegfried•10/31/24, 7:18 PM

I am using custom wildcard domains with 2 workers right now

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 7:19 PM

Worker Routes can be wildcard

ziegfried•10/31/24, 7:20 PM

right, but without the domain, there's no DNS record actually pointing to the worker, or am I misunderstanding something?

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 7:20 PM

With Routes you just make originless records if you don't have an actual origin behind it, AAAA target 100::

If you're using KV and you want to measure it's real easy and nothing fancy, just performance.now()

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