VPforce Controls•14mo ago

Hey I am unable to update firmware - I am seeing this: But update firmware is greyed out in the web

Hey I am unable to update firmware - I am seeing this:
But update firmware is greyed out in the web browser:

ReignOP•11/28/24, 9:07 PM

is there a way to manually download/update the firmware? Thank you!

RReign Hey I am unable to update firmware - I am seeing this: But update firmware is gr...

walmis•11/28/24, 9:07 PM

Try this: 🧰support

Wwalmis Try this: https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/968208779084701716/115...

ReignOP•11/28/24, 9:15 PM

Ok so I was able to update the firmware, but now I am showing 24 inputs (I have no stick connected)

RReign Ok so I was able to update the firmware, but now I am showing 24 inputs (I have ...

ReignOP•11/28/24, 9:23 PM

I restarted, still seeing the same issue

ReignOP•11/28/24, 10:43 PM

plugged my stick back in and it cleared the issue!!! Thanks Walmis!! Cheers

RUSHER•11/29/24, 11:07 AM

Since like 4 firmware updates I keep getting USB disconnects. Before it was fine for months, now I´m having problems. Works fine for hours. But then I get a disconnect. Usaually when I´m on a server and it´s the wost time. 1hour flying to target - disconnect. on final aftter a sucessful sortie - disconnect. Sometimes turning off and on again helps, sometimes nothing helps. Anything I can do to find the problem?

RRUSHER Since like 4 firmware updates I keep getting USB disconnects. Before it was fine...

Hiob•11/29/24, 11:35 AM

Turning on and off (I assume you mean the e-stop button) only cuts the power to the motors. The board is powered by the 5V USB connection. So in order to cycle an USB connection issue, you need to unplug and pluf the USB connector.

Hiob•11/29/24, 11:36 AM

Which of course doesn't solve your original problem, I know.

HHiob Turning on and off (I assume you mean the e-stop button) only cuts the power to ...

RUSHER•11/29/24, 11:54 AM

Nevertheless good to understand the difference. Next time it happens I will try to check parameters if sth. looks weird.

RRUSHER Since like 4 firmware updates I keep getting USB disconnects. Before it was fine...

walmis•11/29/24, 12:40 PM

Are you 100% positive you get USB disconnects and not motor faults? Motor faults, usually due to unstable parameter, usually come with a long beep. If it's indeed USB I recommend checking all connections, especially power, because bad grounding (on the DC side) from PSU can cause ground loop intereference.
Also USB hubs are known to cause issues sometimes.
A USB isolator (based on ADUM3160 IC) is a good idea in some cases: https://www.amazon.com/DEVMO-USB-ADUM3160-Isolation-Protection/dp/B09L4QJM14

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Wwalmis Are you 100% positive you get USB disconnects and not motor faults? Motor faults...

TheAmazinGreat•11/29/24, 1:04 PM

This happened to me last night as well, I thought it was strange but also a strange coincidence to come here this morning and see this reported by @Gadreel .

It was in level flight with minimal forces so I wouldn’t guess a motor fault. I do not use a USB hub for my Rhino.

When it happened I popped out of DCS and opened the configurator. I’m pretty sure I remember seeing USB disconnected and red text next to motor status (don’t remember what the text said). Had to unplug and replug USB, I think forces came back immediately without a power cycle, just with the USB replug. It then was working again but without telemFFB effects.

I didn’t have configurator open at the time so didn’t have any history in the debug tab to show what happened. Will probably be keeping it up for now if this is potentially a recurring issue.

TheAmazinGreat•11/29/24, 1:08 PM

DCS reported in game via pop up text that VPF Rhino disconnected, never seen it do that on a motor fault.

walmis•11/29/24, 1:22 PM

Strange nontheless, I haven't touched USB code in the last revisions

Wwalmis Are you 100% positive you get USB disconnects and not motor faults? Motor faults...

RUSHER•11/29/24, 1:25 PM

I think today I had both. I first heard the beeping sound (same as if you turn the Rhino on/off) which as I understand means the Motors go offline (?). So I pressed the e stop and reset it again. Stick was working again. Then after some seconds I heard the Windows sound for USB disconnect and e-stop + reset didn´t work.
I use a USB3 port on the mainboard and I even switched to another USB3 port on the mainboard some time ago after which tthe problem seemed tto be gone. But it came again after some time.

RUSHER•11/29/24, 1:27 PM

I´ll keep the configurator open from now on to check what exactly disconnected and experiment with different USB-Ports. I will check all connections and if nothing helps I will check inside the Rhino.
Thanks for the reply!

5earchkaine•11/29/24, 2:16 PM

hi, does anybody know how to set my VKB grip as default device in the Rhino Input Loopback? everytime i start the programm i need to select it manually..., default is always my HE seq shifter.

walmis•11/29/24, 2:25 PM

hmm, it should remember the last selected input

walmis•11/29/24, 2:28 PM

if you hit quit and restart it always jumps to the first one?

5earchkaine•11/29/24, 2:34 PM

yes, it's always the first in the list

55earchkaine yes, it's always the first in the list

TheAmazinGreat•11/29/24, 3:02 PM

Changing grip type will click “apply” rather than “store”. Have you made sure to press “store settings” after selecting the vkb grip?

TTheAmazinGreat Changing grip type will click “apply” rather than “store”. Have you made sure to...

walmis•11/29/24, 3:06 PM

It's the loopback app not saving the last used device, will need to check it once I get back to my gaming rig

Alex "Freakshow" L.•11/29/24, 5:29 PM

Hi @walmis I just received my base... bad news... the power supply is bad. Tested w/ multimeter = 0 volts. Please advise.

AAlex "Freakshow" L.Hi @walmis I just received my base... bad news... the power supply is bad. Test...

walmis•11/29/24, 6:28 PM

Roger, DMd

slowmover•11/29/24, 7:14 PM

can anyone tell me why when i fly the f-18 i have no spring effect?

slowmover•11/29/24, 7:14 PM

stick moves freely without pressing any button

Sslowmover can anyone tell me why when i fly the f-18 i have no spring effect?

walmis•11/29/24, 7:16 PM

Can you show the loaded effects in the debug tab?

slowmover•11/29/24, 7:16 PM

Sslowmover can anyone tell me why when i fly the f-18 i have no spring effect?

Hiob•11/29/24, 7:17 PM

Do you have enabled hardware trim? Maybe the force release is stuck?

walmis•11/29/24, 7:18 PM

yeah, better turn off hardware trim for F-18

slowmover•11/29/24, 7:19 PM

even with off i still have no spring effect

walmis•11/29/24, 7:19 PM

effect 11 seems to have spring override, check telemFFB log for effect 11

slowmover•11/29/24, 7:25 PM

This here I think should be light white like other effects

slowmover•11/29/24, 7:25 PM

Let me do a restart everything

slowmover•11/29/24, 7:26 PM

restarted PC and Vpforce now lookes okey.let;s see it on game

gianlu.320•11/29/24, 7:59 PM

Hopefully somebody is able to help. I was unable to update to the latest firmware, but I used powershell "trick" and I was finally able to update. Now even if my computer recognizes the rhino as connected, nothing happens. Not even the usual sound when I turn on the rhino, No axis movement but the stick pushbuttons work. Any help?

gianlu.320•11/29/24, 8:03 PM

And Vp force configurator 1.0.17b2 shows now firmware 1.0.7.b12, usb connected but motor x and y offline

walmis•11/29/24, 8:14 PM

Is the motors powered? You should read a positive Vbus voltage in the telemetry pane

gianlu.320•11/29/24, 8:17 PM

No power to the motors. Vbus 0.00V

walmis•11/29/24, 8:19 PM

Check the E-stop, is the DC plugged in? Power brick connected to the 220V/110V outlet?

gianlu.320•11/29/24, 8:21 PM

ok my bad. When i unplugged the usb power command I must have slightly pulled the power cable.

gianlu.320•11/29/24, 8:21 PM

I feel like an idiot but relieved because now it works

gianlu.320•11/29/24, 8:21 PM

Thanks a lot for your help!!

Ggianlu.320 I feel like an idiot but relieved because now it works

Hiob•11/29/24, 8:34 PM

Probably most of us: „been there, done that….“….

Dr. No•11/29/24, 9:27 PM

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maleioch•11/29/24, 11:34 PM

Just received my Rhino and want to remove the bottom to layout some mounting options. The screws are tiny. With my eyesight, I can't tell for sure but they look like hex key. Anyone know what size?

Mmaleioch Just received my Rhino and want to remove the bottom to layout some mounting opt...

f14billy•11/30/24, 4:41 AM

It's actually torx. Not sure with size though.

DDr. No Can Telemffb be used on CLS-60? https://flitesim.com/shop/p/cls-60

Dr. No•11/30/24, 5:47 AM

Haha i feel very naive, of course its not going to work with CLS-60 I guess I was just asking long shot.

Mmaleioch Just received my Rhino and want to remove the bottom to layout some mounting opt...

LastRonin•11/30/24, 8:59 AM

Torx size 8

Cynemi•11/30/24, 7:46 PM

Is there anyone who was been able to fix the issue where the stick just shuts down with the turning off chime and you have to cycle the estop in order to get it back? Its really since it keeps happening during flight

CCynemi Is there anyone who was been able to fix the issue where the stick just shuts do...

Hiob•11/30/24, 8:47 PM

Are you on the latest beta firmware?

Hey I am unable to update firmware - I am seeing this: But update firmware is greyed out in the web

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