Consistent in the same datacenter. But there are 340+ datacenters across the globe, and sometimes a

Consistent in the same datacenter. But there are 340+ datacenters across the globe, and sometimes a user can flip-flop between two (rare but happens) or might switch to a new one on cellular vs wifi, so don't rely on the consistency at all really.

IIsaac McFadyen Consistent in the same datacenter. But there are 340+ datacenters across the glo...

Hello, I’m Allie!•1/4/25, 3:43 AM

Note too that IIRC local writes can fail, causing read-after-writes to not be consistent either

Tthomasgauvin When you write to KV, the changes are immediately made to KV's origin stores. Th...

shinshin•1/4/25, 7:59 AM

I apologize for bringing up a past question.
Here's my question about the routing behavior of Workers.
In what scenarios would a Worker request be routed to a different location?

Sshinshin I apologize for bringing up a past question. Here's my question about the routin...

Hello, I’m Allie!•1/4/25, 8:51 AM

See here: kv

Razzmatazz•1/4/25, 3:27 PM

using the cloudflare TS API Library, I can successfully update a KV value using the

client.kv.namespaces.bulk.update

client.kv.namespaces.bulk.update

method, but when I try to use

client.kv.namespaces.values.update

client.kv.namespaces.values.update

it always returns a

null

null

value rather than any kind of error message. I feel like I'm going crazy

1.1.1.1APP•1/4/25, 4:34 PM

DNS over Discord: A records

google.com A @1.1.1.1 +noall +answer

google.com A @1.1.1.1 +noall +answer

NAME       | TTL  | DATA          
-----------+------+---------------
google.com | 204s | 64.233.185.113
google.com | 204s | 64.233.185.139
google.com | 204s | 64.233.185.138
google.com | 204s | 64.233.185.100
google.com | 204s | 64.233.185.102
google.com | 204s | 64.233.185.101

NAME       | TTL  | DATA          
-----------+------+---------------
google.com | 204s | 64.233.185.113
google.com | 204s | 64.233.185.139
google.com | 204s | 64.233.185.138
google.com | 204s | 64.233.185.100
google.com | 204s | 64.233.185.102
google.com | 204s | 64.233.185.101

diggy diggy hole

•

1/20/25, 3:27 PM

1.1.1.1APP•1/6/25, 5:13 AM

DNS over Discord: A records

yahoo.com A @1.1.1.3 +noall +answer

yahoo.com A @1.1.1.3 +noall +answer

NAME      | TTL    | DATA         
----------+--------+--------------
yahoo.com | 1,705s | 98.137.11.164
yahoo.com | 1,705s | 74.6.143.25  
yahoo.com | 1,705s | 74.6.231.21  
yahoo.com | 1,705s | 74.6.143.26  
yahoo.com | 1,705s | 74.6.231.20  
yahoo.com | 1,705s | 98.137.11.163

NAME      | TTL    | DATA         
----------+--------+--------------
yahoo.com | 1,705s | 98.137.11.164
yahoo.com | 1,705s | 74.6.143.25  
yahoo.com | 1,705s | 74.6.231.21  
yahoo.com | 1,705s | 74.6.143.26  
yahoo.com | 1,705s | 74.6.231.20  
yahoo.com | 1,705s | 98.137.11.163

diggy diggy hole

•

2/11/25, 1:35 PM

zegevlier•1/6/25, 12:55 PM

301 -> #Bot spam please

Rick•1/9/25, 12:16 PM

I am setting up kv for sesions management. But I cam acros this repo https://github.com/bruceharrison1984/kv-d1-benchmark
which suggests that d1 performance is similar to kv. Is that the case?
I would like to store and query other info about the session if I can. if d1 gives me the same performance, i'd rather use that.

GitHub

GitHub - bruceharrison1984/kv-d1-benchmark: A very small Cloudflare...

A very small Cloudflare Worker that compares response times of KV to D1 - bruceharrison1984/kv-d1-benchmark

Horsie•1/9/25, 12:31 PM

Can someone please help me understand what "Operations/Worker invocation" means?

Horsie•1/9/25, 12:31 PM

Can I access my kv from a worker only 1000 times per day? That seems unlikely

Walshy•1/9/25, 1:52 PM

Worker invocation means each time the Worker is invoked. So if you're using HTTP, every HTTP request received. Crons, every cron schedule fired, etc.

Every time the Worker is ran, you can do 1000 operations.

RRick I am setting up kv for sesions management. But I cam acros this repo https://git...

Walshy•1/9/25, 1:53 PM

Benchmark is old, KV is faster - https://blog.cloudflare.com/faster-workers-kv/

but I'd recommend just using the right tool for the job over the one which is a tad faster. what the right one is, that's for you to decide.

WWalshy Benchmark is old, KV is faster - <https://blog.cloudflare.com/faster-workers-kv/...

Rick•1/9/25, 3:22 PM

Thanks

WWalshy Worker invocation means each time the Worker is invoked. So if you're using HTTP...

Horsie•1/10/25, 3:21 AM

Oh I see. It's more like Operations per worker invocation.

Horsie•1/10/25, 3:22 AM

I get it now. Thanks.

Horsie•1/10/25, 3:22 AM

Perhaps it will be to spell it out over there. '/' can be misinterpreted as 'or'.

reor•1/10/25, 11:32 AM

I'm unable to delete a KV namespace, even though:

All associated Worker scripts have been deleted from deployment.
The namespace still shows associations with the respective scripts, even after attempting to delete it during a brief period when the KV storage was empty (this was temporary due to the situation below).

Situation:

I attempted to remove all KV pairs from the namespace directly using the Cloudflare API, but the KV pairs reappeared after a few hours.

What should i do? I suspects an in-depth technical support is required. Thank you.

reor•1/10/25, 11:41 AM

i used the following script to perform the data wipe of this problemetic kv namespace

wipe-kv-data.txt2.5KB

Rreor I'm unable to delete a KV namespace, even though: - All associated Worker scrip...

Igor•1/10/25, 6:00 PM

Could it be that you have multiple worker versions and previous version is still writing to the namespace? We would need namespace id to investigate, can you reply to direct message?

IIgor Could it be that you have multiple worker versions and previous version is still...

reor•1/12/25, 5:07 AM

Just replied through DM. Please have a look. Thanks!

Prince Gupta•1/13/25, 10:22 AM

Hello guys, I am new to cloudflare stack,

i am using workers KV, and yeah it works great but after sometime it stops handling requests and starts giving 400 why ??

I am doing

wrangler dev --remote

wrangler dev --remote

PPrince Gupta Hello guys, I am new to cloudflare stack, i am using workers KV, and yeah it wo...

Igor•1/13/25, 10:26 AM

You could be hitting free tier limits: https://developers.cloudflare.com/kv/platform/limits/

Cloudflare Docs

Limits · Cloudflare Workers KV

Prince Gupta•1/13/25, 10:26 AM

when i restart the server it works fine @Igor

Prince Gupta•1/13/25, 10:29 AM

Igor•1/13/25, 12:51 PM

Can you try to add more logging to capture more details? It might be something other than KV.

Igor•1/13/25, 12:53 PM

Specifying --log-level debug--log-level debug might help

besimking•1/13/25, 6:58 PM

Greetings. Is KV different from Redis? I mean is it just a fancy cloudflare naming or is it a different product?

Bbesimking Greetings. Is KV different from Redis? I mean is it just a fancy cloudflare nami...

Isaac McFadyenOP•1/13/25, 6:59 PM

Different product.

Isaac McFadyenOP•1/13/25, 6:59 PM

KV is Cloudflare's own product and so has it's own API methods/infrastructure/backend.

Isaac McFadyenOP•1/13/25, 6:59 PM

The exact backend powering KV isn't public though.

besimking•1/13/25, 6:59 PM

It is not opensource I guess?

Isaac McFadyenOP•1/13/25, 6:59 PM

No.

besimking•1/13/25, 7:00 PM

Thanks a lot @Isaac McFadyen

BruceX•1/16/25, 2:59 PM

hey everyone, is KV durable? can I rest assured stored content will persist indefinitely?

BBruceX hey everyone, is KV durable? can I rest assured stored content will persist inde...

Hello, I’m Allie!•1/16/25, 4:26 PM

Assuming that you don’t overwrite it, yes

Chaika•1/16/25, 4:29 PM

Also assuming that you pay the bill every month lol, but yes, durable

BruceX•1/16/25, 4:30 PM

thanks

戴

戴きますReina•1/17/25, 1:05 PM

guys i have a hono project , when i tried to get a kv key but return null even though already binding, it work fine when in cli too, didn tknow why this happen

戴

戴きますReina•1/17/25, 1:20 PM

i with pumpkin guy can help me LOL

Original message was deleted

Idle•1/20/25, 10:15 AM

?pings

SuperHelpflare•1/20/25, 10:15 AM

Please do not ping community members for non-moderation reasons. Doing so will not solve your issue faster and will make people less likely to want to help you.

King Kazu•1/21/25, 6:15 PM

I really want to use kv, but the cold read latency is kinda killing me. For context, I am starting an API gateway service for API provides (similar to something like an API marketplace), and I use KV to store config details about the API and the end user. KV is god tier when I load test with tons of reqs / sec, but for more realistic scenarios of bursted requests at a smaller scale, I am getting P90 of ~300ms which is just not feasible. Would love to stay on Cloudflare services such as D1, but Upstash Redis seems like a good fix. Any thoughts?

KKing Kazu I really want to use kv, but the cold read latency is kinda killing me. For cont...

Elliot Hesp•1/21/25, 6:30 PM

How often does that data change? The ttl property on get requests may help.

EElliot Hesp How often does that data change? The ttl property on get requests may help.

King Kazu•1/21/25, 6:40 PM

Not often but only thing is data changes should be reflected quickly (e.x certain api key gets banned, don’t want to wait super long)

Original message was deleted

se•1/23/25, 10:39 AM

Hello, only based on object TTL; i.e. after you update a value, the safest is to purge after max TTL defined for your objects + some small buffer.

iLearn•1/23/25, 6:57 PM

Following is my Question and Answer(given by ChatGPT)
Please confirm / update the Answer given by ChatGPT. Thanks.

QUESTION :
In the following Cloudflare Worker Code to List by Prefix .. how will the billing happen ? .. billing only for the Keys which are read and correspond to prefix or billing for complete scan of the KV namespace ?

export default {
async fetch(request, env, ctx) {
const value = await env.NAMESPACE.list({ prefix: "user:1:" });
return new Response(value.keys);
},
};

ANSWER by CHATGPT :
In Cloudflare Workers, billing for KV operations depends on the specific API calls and the data retrieved. Here's how the billing works for your provided code:

KV List API Billing

The
```
KV.list()
```
```
KV.list()
```
operation is billed based on the number of keys returned that match the
```
prefix
```
```
prefix
```
filter, not the total number of keys in the namespace.
The filtering by
```
prefix
```
```
prefix
```
is handled internally by Cloudflare, so the operation scans only the relevant part of the namespace that matches the specified
```
prefix
```
```
prefix
```
.

### 2. Breakdown of Costs

List Operation: Each call to
```
list()
```
```
list()
```
counts as a single read operation, regardless of the number of keys returned.
Key Retrieval: You are billed for each key returned in the
value.keys
value.keys
array. If the
```
list()
```
```
list()
```
operation retrieves 10 keys, it will count as 10 read operations.

### 3. Example Billing Scenario

Assume

NAMESPACE.list({ prefix: "user:1:" })

NAMESPACE.list({ prefix: "user:1:" })

returns 50 keys.

You are billed for:
- 1 list operation (base cost for calling the
```
list()
```
```
list()
```
  method).
- 50 read operations (one for each key returned in the result).

### 4. What Is NOT Charged

You are not billed for scanning or evaluating keys that do not match the
```
prefix
```
```
prefix
```
. The filtering happens on Cloudflare's side, and only matching keys are returned and billed.

This means you are billed based on the keys matching your prefix and retrieved by the

list()

list()

operation, not for scanning the entire namespace.

Mathis @ blaxel.ai•1/23/25, 10:12 PM

Hello, does the expiration set at the key creation persists if I put on the key without specifying expiration?

NAME | TTL | DATA -----------+------+--------------- google.com | 204s | 64.233.185.113 google.com | 204s | 64.233.185.139 google.com | 204s | 64.233.185.138 google.com | 204s | 64.233.185.100 google.com | 204s | 64.233.185.102 google.com | 204s | 64.233.185.101

NAME | TTL | DATA ----------+--------+-------------- yahoo.com | 1,705s | 98.137.11.164 yahoo.com | 1,705s | 74.6.143.25 yahoo.com | 1,705s | 74.6.231.21 yahoo.com | 1,705s | 74.6.143.26 yahoo.com | 1,705s | 74.6.231.20 yahoo.com | 1,705s | 98.137.11.163

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