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FFB Joystick designed around VPForceControl kits forked from Gadroc's Design, modified for 86 series motors - TheAmazinGreat/86-Motor-VPF-FFB-Base

SR-F_Winger_[73]_David•1/6/25, 1:27 PM

Thanks Kaltokri!

Stal2k•1/6/25, 3:35 PM

Hey, bumping this after holiday/weekend. Anyone have any ideas? https://discordapp.com/channels/965234441511383080/968208779084701716/1324801644399165590 @walmis maybe this is more of a you question since at this point it looks like the problem might be in the Rhino itself and mine was a bit of a one-off?

SStal2k Hey, bumping this after holiday/weekend. Anyone have any ideas? https://discorda...

walmis•1/6/25, 3:41 PM

Hey, the Rhino only supplies 5V to the grip connector other wires are pass-through. A few things to check:
1. Is your Grip set to Disabled or Loopback?
2. Is the USB voltage more than ~4.8V?

IIRC last time there was the issue with a bad USB voltage

Wwalmis Hey, the Rhino only supplies 5V to the grip connector other wires are pass-throu...

Stal2k•1/6/25, 3:45 PM

Yes, this was awhile ago and it was an issue with an unpowered USB hub. Nothing has changed in terms of the connectivity chain, so it's still hooked up with a powered USB hub that previously worked. The grip is set to disabled, which iirc was the only option that worked with the passthrough you put in.

for the terminals on the GX connector, this is the correct order - 1. Ground 2. Data 3. Clock 4. Latch? I did make a new cable, I could have gotten something mixed up there, but the connections are all solid. I wasn't sure if it was at the point I should start testing through the device via multimeter like you had me do previouly or if there was another type of test I could do that is more helpful.

walmis•1/6/25, 3:49 PM

Yeah probably something is mixed up, if all buttons are solid it most likely could be Data is swapped with GND

Llama_Thumper•1/6/25, 3:49 PM

Guys, apologies for the NOOB question. I am finally setting up my Rhino FFB for first tries with IL2. Whilst configuring the keys I noticed that my axis are being recognised as buttons. Do you know of which way to fix this/what setting this may be?

LLlama_Thumper Guys, apologies for the NOOB question. I am finally setting up my Rhino FFB for ...

walmis•1/6/25, 3:50 PM

Which axis?

Stal2k•1/6/25, 3:51 PM

Can you verify that terminal numbers I posted above is correct from the Rhino side (1. Ground 2. Data 3. Clock 4. Latch)?

Wwalmis Which axis?

Llama_Thumper•1/6/25, 3:52 PM

thanks - both - please take into account I'm a complete NOOB as to the Rhino, ie have connected it via USB, updated firwmare, opened the configuration software to calibrate axis but literally nothing else so I'm probably missing some basic step (for which apologies)

Stal2k•1/6/25, 3:52 PM

I suppose I could just test it through the device, but where I have it mounted now it's not super easy to get into the back of it without undoing a lot of fasteners lol. I hope it's just a switched wire.

LLlama_Thumper thanks - both - please take into account I'm a complete NOOB as to the Rhino, ie...

Llama_Thumper•1/6/25, 3:56 PM

(may be something IL2 related - don't spend too much time on this, will just restart / mess around a bit and then come back here if I don't solve this - thought this may be an obvious setting/issue so wanted to ask)

LLlama_Thumper thanks - both - please take into account I'm a complete NOOB as to the Rhino, ie...

walmis•1/6/25, 3:57 PM

You'll need to provide a little bit more context, as it's hard to understand what's actually wrong here. X and Y axis have no axis-to-button functionality, so it may be something not done correctly in IL2 ( I don't have much IL2 experience myself, someone might be more helpful)

Llama_Thumper•1/6/25, 3:57 PM

no worries, will check it out. thanks!

Grumpy•1/6/25, 4:01 PM

I have had a recurring issue (3 times) over the last three days that one of my motors stopped working in flight. I reset it and it seemed to fix it, until it happened twice more. I have had the Rhino for almost a year and it has never occurred prior. Any ideas on what may be going on?

GGrumpy I have had a recurring issue (3 times) over the last three days that one of my m...

walmis•1/6/25, 4:02 PM

Can you post your exported .vpconf settings ?

Grumpy•1/6/25, 4:03 PM

I can but it will be later today. Thanks!

walmis•1/6/25, 4:03 PM

Great, I'll take a look. Probably filter settings need a few adjustments.

Kkaltokri https://github.com/TheAmazinGreat/86-Motor-VPF-FFB-Base/

elijahautistic•1/6/25, 5:21 PM

Thanks man ! That's very nice of you !

ono•1/6/25, 8:44 PM

Hello, what ist the Different between 86BLF03 and 86BLF04 motors? Cheers

Oono Hello, what ist the Different between 86BLF03 and 86BLF04 motors? Cheers

TheAmazinGreat•1/6/25, 9:04 PM

Length and Torque. Specs are in the #

faq

https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/986474224241741884/986485131906809866

I-WVoss•1/7/25, 5:33 AM

Good morning everyone!! Have any of you had the same problem as me, that the DCS F4 once in the flight tends to violently To go up high, and your Rhino apparently responds consistently?

TheAmazinGreat•1/7/25, 2:39 PM

A slightly forward trim is pretty normal for F4 in level flight. I do find that depending on the mission with an air start the trim isn’t perfect on load and the commanded position at the “Fly” screen is different than when it comes off of pause.

TheAmazinGreat•1/7/25, 2:40 PM

I tend to hold the stick when it loads in, then active pause and click fly. Trim to where I think it should be and then unpause. Seems to help. It does do a jolt no matter what once the briefing page loads.

Hotdognz•1/7/25, 11:26 PM

Hi all, im having trouble doing a firmware update to the unit I just purchased of my mate, he said it would need one.

When I connect it to my PC the PC detects it and it show's under game controllers, when I go to the following web https://vpforcecontrols.com/usb/rhino/site and click connect it comes up with a msg saying No compatible devices found, so I cant update the firmware

How do I get the web page to detect it ??

Hotdognz•1/7/25, 11:30 PM

This is the msg in VPForce FFB Configurator

HHotdognz Hi all, im having trouble doing a firmware update to the unit I just purchased o...

f14billy•1/8/25, 2:07 AM

Do you have another PC or laptop you can try?

f14billy•1/8/25, 2:07 AM

Or maybe another browser just in case.

Hotdognz•1/8/25, 3:13 AM

I have another PC will try it on that

Hotdognz•1/8/25, 9:03 AM

I have tried it on another PC and im still getting that no compatible devices are detected whn trying to do a firmwear update

HHotdognz I have tried it on another PC and im still getting that no compatible devices ar...

f14billy•1/8/25, 1:39 PM

🧰support

f14billy•1/8/25, 1:39 PM

Can you try that and see if that helps?

Havebug•1/8/25, 4:28 PM

Hi, is there a way to upload a configuration file through command line?

HHavebug Hi, is there a way to upload a configuration file through command line?

Number481•1/8/25, 6:46 PM

VPforce_FFB_Configurator.exe -config <path\to\config.vpconf> -serial <serial>VPforce_FFB_Configurator.exe -config <path\to\config.vpconf> -serial <serial> serial is optional unless you have multiple VPForce devices connected

Hotdognz•1/9/25, 3:48 AM

Hi im getting some where now, I have connected a Thrustmaster stick to the base, I have it connected via the https://vpforcecontrols.com/usb/rhino/

But it doesn't show what firmware it has and wont let me update it.

The VPForce v1.0.16 connects and shows Firmware 1.0.15

Do I need to update the firmware ??

Any help really appriciated

f14billy•1/9/25, 4:12 AM

Did you try the command prompt link I sent a couple of messages above?

Ff14billy Did you try the command prompt link I sent a couple of messages above?

Hotdognz•1/9/25, 4:43 AM

Thank you that worked, firmware updated

Hotdognz•1/9/25, 4:43 AM

Hotdognz•1/9/25, 4:44 AM

next issue my F18 Thrustmaster stick doesnt seem to be connected, no buttons are working

f14billy•1/9/25, 5:03 AM

Can you show your configurator page? To see what grip you have selected in the options

Hotdognz•1/9/25, 5:03 AM

got it sorted thanks

Hotdognz•1/9/25, 6:29 AM

@f14billyThanks for your help, firmware updated it seems to be working now in the VPForce FFB v1.0.17b2 and I have the joystick hooked up and working.

I have done an Auto Calibrate applied the factory defaults and applied them and stored them.

Only issue now it seems that the motors can produce an under voltage fault seen on the debug page, but if I switch the unit off and on it seems to fix it.

f14billy•1/9/25, 6:36 AM

You may want to post your configurator settings tab with the right side having all of the options expanded. From what I remember that issue was usually either a faulty power connection (loose), faulty power supply or maybe if you are using a USB hub try connecting it directly. If you have another power supply to test it would be great.

Hotdognz•1/9/25, 6:38 AM

@f14billyOk thanks ill have a look soon and re post

f14billy•1/9/25, 6:39 AM

If you shake the base a little and it gives you the error then you know it's a loose power connection somewhere.

Hotdognz•1/9/25, 6:40 AM

Are these the settings you mean

f14billy•1/9/25, 6:42 AM

Yeah I figured if someone saw something weird in those they could help you. Although they seem ok to me. Maybe it's a power issue. Either a loose connection inside or the power supply connector or even the power supply itself.

Hotdognz•1/9/25, 6:43 AM

It connects ok and seems to stay connected only happens every now and then with the motor issue.

Hotdognz•1/9/25, 6:44 AM

is there any way to test how the FFB works ??, in DCS I just had resitance no effects

f14billy•1/9/25, 6:45 AM

You would need to download and install telemffb and you can see all the effects it has on DCS

Hotdognz•1/9/25, 6:45 AM

do you have a link at all

https://github.com/TheAmazinGreat/86-Motor-VPF-FFB-Base/

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