Simple question.... I have a Moza AB9 FFB base. It was a gift.... I am now looking to DIY my TM TPR

Simple question.... I have a Moza AB9 FFB base. It was a gift....
I am now looking to DIY my TM TPR into FFB.... can those 2 live on the same PC?

FFeller-Buncher Simple question.... I have a Moza AB9 FFB base. It was a gift.... I am now look...

walmis•1/20/25, 2:56 PM

Yeah, I don't see why not

Feller-BuncherOP•1/20/25, 3:02 PM

VPForce has no entry in the export.lua?

TThrustSol I’ve been reading a lot of reviews and seeing people experience the odd overheat...

YuchenYan•1/20/25, 3:07 PM

https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/972180323787997255/1329938118383767694 I added some cooling fins and an additional fan. It can sustain dogfight almost all the time

YYuchenYan https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/972180323787997255/1329938118383...

ThrustSol•1/20/25, 4:25 PM

Thank you Yuchen, that’s great to know.
I just want to make the right decision as I’ve never had a ffb stick before and just don’t want anything that takes away from the experience of it.

Fr4Ged•1/20/25, 4:35 PM

I don't have any overheating issues but I don't fly warbirds and don't do long sessions of just dogfighting

FFr4Ged I don't have any overheating issues but I don't fly warbirds and don't do long s...

ThrustSol•1/20/25, 5:37 PM

Thank you for your message, it’s good to know that.

FFeller-Buncher VPForce has no entry in the export.lua?

walmis•1/20/25, 5:38 PM

It does, but it plays nice with others

Red Magic•1/21/25, 3:39 AM

Lmao

Red Magic•1/21/25, 3:40 AM

Realized I needed to turn down my VRS intensity when the Rhino shook my stick in my hand so violently that it unscrewed itself and rotated in my hand

LR.Jpatty•1/21/25, 4:16 AM

For those with diy sticks, what design did you use? Im looking at jflyer81s f16 grip..

Wyber Boyes•1/21/25, 9:17 AM

What's the current turnaround times for the steel mounting plate from order to dispatch?

WWyber Boyes What's the current turnaround times for the steel mounting plate from order to d...

walmis•1/21/25, 9:28 AM

Same or next day

Aerosmith•1/21/25, 3:55 PM

I'm still confused about how the DIY kit works and what I need to integrate it into my pedals and stick. On the connection diagram in the showcase channel there are two potentiometers marked as "optional". I can see that the motor driver boards are integrated in the back of the motors. I guess there's also some sort of encoder. But where does the position feedback come from? Other FFB builds use potis at the output shaft. If theese are not required and there's a gear between the motor and the gimbal then the encoder has to be a multi-turn absolute type which I doubt...

Bob Bushman•1/21/25, 4:00 PM

The Motor itself has positional sensor feed built into it.

Aerosmith•1/21/25, 4:04 PM

So it's a multi-turn encoder? Or is a homing/centering procedure required each time after I switch it on?

AAerosmith So it's a multi-turn encoder? Or is a homing/centering procedure required each t...

walmis•1/21/25, 4:18 PM

Most use cases for the DIY kit operate within a single revolution of the motor, so homing is not required if the motor starts with a "centered" calibration. While the motors support multi-turn configurations, they need to be centered at startup to establish the "central" revolution for proper operation.

The potentiometers shown in the diagram are multi-functional and can be used for tasks like adjusting spring gain or other settings.

Aerosmith•1/21/25, 4:24 PM

Can the centering be automated? Verifying that the controls are free from end stop to end stop is part of the pre-startup checklist, anyway. So if I do that the controls should be ready? I think I need either the bigger motors or a gear. Timing belts would be cheapest like in the Rhino base...

walmis•1/21/25, 4:38 PM

Auto centering would be a nice-to-have addition, but it's currenly on the roadmap for the future versions.

ItsPuppy00•1/21/25, 9:44 PM

hey, whats the turn around of the vkb adapters from order to shipped?

Trigger•1/22/25, 12:01 AM

~~Has anyone tried to use their stick as a force sensing stick? Is there a way to set it up like that in the configurator?~~ I should use search before asking questions.

Wwalmis Most use cases for the DIY kit operate within a single revolution of the motor, ...

Mike T•1/22/25, 1:35 AM

Walmis, so to simplify, the motor should turn only one revolution for axis sensing…….in my collective build using 57BLF motor I have a 11 tooth spur gear attached….meshing with a larger spur gear that is attached to collective stick…….it takes about a revolution and a half to go from bottomed out on collective to max collective up travel ……do I need then to design a larger diameter motor spur gear or smaller main collective spur gear to get it inside one revolution? Am I understanding this correctly?
Ta

MMike T Walmis, so to simplify, the motor should turn only one revolution for axis sensi...

smitty•1/22/25, 2:49 AM

this will work, but make sure your collective down position is calibrated within 0 and 4096. then the up position can be 5000, 6000 whatever. just be sure its in its down position when powering on. (if your numbers go the other way, like higher numbers in the down position, calibrate down at around 3900 or so and then the up position can be well into the negatives.

Ssmitty this will work, but make sure your collective down position is calibrated within...

Mike T•1/22/25, 5:20 AM

Righto……I think I understand……I’ll try that…..thanks

IItsPuppy00 hey, whats the turn around of the vkb adapters from order to shipped?

walmis•1/22/25, 7:19 AM

They're in stock, so either the same or next day usually

m2times_•1/22/25, 9:07 AM

only took 96 days from reservation to getting the order finalization message!

Mm2times_only took 96 days from reservation to getting the order finalization message!

ThrustSol•1/22/25, 9:23 AM

That’s awesome man

GTOfire•1/22/25, 11:51 AM

Is it me, or is 22 degrees of throw too wide for horizontal, but 11 degrees way too short for backward throw?

Just got my rhino base today and immediately was happy I got the 11deg limiters, but with them on there it feels like especially pulling the stick towards me is barely off center. (This is a feel thing, I can see that physically it is doing the same thing in all directions, no worries there).

How do others have their throw limits set up? I'm using a WW stick with the extension at its shortest setting.

GGTOfire Is it me, or is 22 degrees of throw too wide for horizontal, but 11 degrees way ...

Fierce_Fire•1/22/25, 1:04 PM

You could try a software limiter first to see what angle you like, then print(have someone print) a custom limiter using the parametric design of the original limiter

Fr4Ged•1/22/25, 1:08 PM

I am still using the software limiter to this day. Don't know if it is harmful to the Rhino but yeah

GTOfire•1/22/25, 1:09 PM

Yeah, I used to always yank on stuff too hard so I figured hw limits would be better

GTOfire•1/22/25, 1:09 PM

But then I'm not anywhere near good enough a pilot to be going to the extremes of the stick throw and not die 5 seconds later

VPforceBot•1/22/25, 1:15 PM

:package:

RHINO #0871 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•1/22/25, 1:15 PM

:package:

RHINO #0870 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•1/22/25, 1:15 PM

:package:

RHINO #0869 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•1/22/25, 1:15 PM

:package:

RHINO #0872 Has Shipped!

Anthony•1/22/25, 1:16 PM

Hammer 1-1•1/22/25, 1:46 PM

quick question about the stick: does it come with the floor mount for monstertech or is there a mount that I will have to fabricate specifically?

Hammer 1-1•1/22/25, 1:46 PM

just got my invoice today and before I pay I need to know if theres something else I need to add

Hammer 1-1•1/22/25, 1:47 PM

I dont have a monstertech, but I do have a nextlevelracing flight seat pro that Im already going to have to fabricate something to it

Fr4Ged•1/22/25, 1:48 PM

There should be a monstertech base plate option for the order but you don't need it if you can fabricate one for your next level seat imo

Hammer 1-1•1/22/25, 1:48 PM

im interested if it comes with a base plate at all

Hammer 1-1•1/22/25, 1:49 PM

need to know what Im messing with first so i can get supplies and design something

HHammer 1-1 need to know what Im messing with first so i can get supplies and design somethi...

Fr4Ged•1/22/25, 2:02 PM

https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/986474224241741884/987268082219253770

Hammer 1-1•1/22/25, 2:07 PM

dont see anything in there about floor mounts and the imgur link no bueno

Alighierian•1/22/25, 2:09 PM

There's a PDF with dimensions in the post he linked.

And that imgur link going dead is relatively recent afaik (it had photos of the Rhino itself)

Fr4Ged•1/22/25, 2:10 PM

I just added the monstertech base plate. Still haven't bought the MT seat but that is the plan

HHammer 1-1 im interested if it comes with a base plate at all

Fierce_Fire•1/22/25, 2:17 PM

I believe there is a base plate, but it has its own pattern and doesn't mount to any extrusion system or so

Alighierian•1/22/25, 2:24 PM

The pattern (160x160.3mm) matches the TM Cougar joystick, for what it's worth.

I.e.: You can also use other mounting plates designed for that device, given they're sturdy enough.
(Kinda what we did at MT, once we realised that match.)

Hammer 1-1•1/22/25, 3:13 PM

this is what its going to be mounted to, so looks like I have a bit of work to do

Hammer 1-1•1/22/25, 3:14 PM

looks like Im going to have to find another place for my vkb base too

Simple question.... I have a Moza AB9 FFB base. It was a gift.... I am now looking to DIY my TM TPR

Similar Threads