SI want to hide my database behind Cloudflare's Network without needing to have the 
Is that what Hyperdrive fixes?
Cloudflared application on all devices.. Is that what Hyperdrive fixes?
AHyperdrive is a way to talk from Workers to a centralized database. We integrate with tunnels too so you'd only need have cloudflared running once somewhere within your vpc to egress the traffic to your DB from.
Based on your questions I'm assuming you're not running your application on Workers?
Based on your questions I'm assuming you're not running your application on Workers?
SNo I am not.. 
AOkay. This is another interesting use case for non-workers ingress for us. I'll mention this over to our product folks.
AFor now though, Hyperdrive probably isn't going to be a lot of help for your use case, I'm afraid.
SAlright, thanks tho for the help 
SSweet thank you, let me know on the digital ocean stuff when back into the office just to get a firm answer if possible vs not.
Then I can explore alternatives if its a definite no!
Happy to speak to @thomasgauvin
also. As exploring alternatives is totally fine too.
Then I can explore alternatives if its a definite no!
Happy to speak to @thomasgauvin
also. As exploring alternatives is totally fine too.
NIs Hyperdrive on the Cloudflare IP range? (So we can whitelist those)
DYou could probably use cloudflared just fine
ITLDR: not yet.
TThis is correct, Hyperdrive is not on Cloudflare's IP range @Nick
JAre there any plans for supporting custom connection limits per region? Right now we seem to be hitting that limit and losing performance by being routed to a nearby region.
AWe're moving away from regional pooling, which should dramatically improve that without the additional config needed
APost your Hyperdrive ID and I'll enroll you early, we're still teeing up the migration for everyone
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JThanks!
JThis was created recently btw, so not sure if it already has the new version
AJust cut over for new configs last week, so it'd depend
Alet me check
AAh yeah, you're already on global pools
AMoving to thread
DIt is on CFās ASN though iirc?
HIIRC it is on a CF ASN, but not the CF ASN
DAhhhā¦ I definitely missed that.
S
Hello~ I was reading about hyperdrive, and wanted to confirm something: is hyperdrive ONLY for accessing a database from workers, or can it be used for connecting from other type of distributed applications (that aren't hosted on Cloudflare?).I assume the answer is "nope, sorry!", since it looks like Hyperdrive operates as a worker binding, but just want to confirm.
AYes, that is correct. We've kicked around opening it up more, but have not committed to that yet. Hyperdrive operates as a standalone service, so it is technically possible, though would take some work.
If you're willing to discuss your use case a bit, it'd help us as we evaluate.
If you're willing to discuss your use case a bit, it'd help us as we evaluate.
D@AJR Hmm, I think I may have found a pretty bad bug. When you reconnect, are you doing a fresh DNS lookup, or are you maybe accidentally using a cached entry?
LHi, combining Hyperdrive with Neon, which connection strings is the recommended? With pool o without it?
DNeon suggestions without the pooler.
https://neon.tech/docs/guides/cloudflare-hyperdrive#retrieve-your-neon-database-connection-string
Cloudflare suggests with the pooler.
https://developers.cloudflare.com/hyperdrive/examples/neon/#neon-dashboard
https://neon.tech/docs/guides/cloudflare-hyperdrive#retrieve-your-neon-database-connection-string
Cloudflare suggests with the pooler.
https://developers.cloudflare.com/hyperdrive/examples/neon/#neon-dashboard
LI'm testing with pooler, but I'm get an error: "Connection terminated unexpectedly" on stress test. My next test will be without.... thanks!
Dtbh I've found Neon very unreliable in the past with connections.
LYes, I'm discover stranger things on stress scenarios.
DAI, personally, think without the pooler will be a better experience
D@AJR As a sanity check, when I use the patch API, what happens to existing connections?
AIn most scenarios, a new pool will be created when you send traffic after the PATCH change to your configuration, and the existing connections will idle and then time out.
Dah dang, so that would deal with if the database password was expiring (since it would trigger a disconnect on the old pools), but wouldn't be useful for @AJR Hmm, I _think_ I _may_ have found a sadly
LHi, I'm working with Drizzle (node-postgres) + Hyperdrive + Neon, I'm trying with/without pooler's connection string and with/without SSL required in connection string... but, sometimes I receive an error: Connection terminated unexpectedly ... any ideas?
LI try with node-postgress pool configuration like: min = 0, idleTimeout=0, etc...
The error appears on stress scenarios (500 request in 10 seconds)
The error appears on stress scenarios (500 request in 10 seconds)
Dbeen thinking about this more; is there really no way to force close existing connections from the Hyperdrive side of things?
AWell, we'd need to build it. It'd be pretty doable, it's just not something we've had to do before.
ABut no, we don't currently have a "nuke this pool" button available to us.
AUnrelated: we've started teeing up migration of existing Hyperdrives to the new pool placement system. I love my demo page screencaps, so here y'all go.
DCould we have have the same/similar page that shows the stats like that for our Hyperdrives?
T@dave | ai.moda what do you think of hyperdrive's current analytics on latency? ie what are you looking to get out of this
Tpr incoming
DI'd be curious what my direct to database origin latency would be for this for example.
AIf you're in an experimenting mood, you can do vanilla TCP connections to your DB from Workers. It usually goes about as well as the demo page suggests so we don't suggest it, but it'd give you the easy comparison.
https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/tutorials/postgres/
https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/tutorials/postgres/
Cloudflare Docs
In this tutorial, you will learn how to create a Cloudflare Workers application and connect it to a PostgreSQL database using TCP Sockets and Hyperdrive. The Workers application you create in this tutorial will interact with a product database inside of PostgreSQL.
DThis is a prod Worker, I don't wanna attempt fate. 