Recently got an email telling me my preorder was almost ready, wasn’t expecting it nearly this early

Recently got an email telling me my preorder was almost ready, wasn’t expecting it nearly this early so I wanted to ask do you need to fully pay within 10 days or just confirm the order via the link?

unstopyOP•3/5/25, 11:16 PM

Didn’t see anything on the FAQ about it

Uunstopy Recently got an email telling me my preorder was almost ready, wasn’t expecting ...

Flo-Soft•3/6/25, 12:07 AM

For the first email with the link to the order form you just have to fill out the order form and add any additional parts you want to order (adapter...). That's the actual placing of your final order. When all parts are available you will get another email (New invoice...) containing the invoice of your ordered parts and the clear instructions how to pay.

unstopyOP•3/6/25, 12:07 AM

Ok I appreciate the help, thank you

Uunstopy Ok I appreciate the help, thank you

Piiman•3/6/25, 1:59 AM

Be aware the invoice will come soon after you place that order. For me it was, I got mail on Wednesday, and placed the order on Fri and on Monday I had the invoice with a few days to pay, which I paid, and 2.5 days later it was in my hands in Florida USA. But as you noted their list seems to be moving much faster, My order only took about 3 mos total so if you can't do it now get back on the list.

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Youtch•3/6/25, 11:14 AM

Thanks for sharing your settings, much appreaciated. In the VPForce manual, there is nothing explaining the Trim Release Damper, and all the mentions to Trim Release seemed to be related to MSFS, so I had just totally skipped this one. I will need to read more about it, to understand what is supposed to do, and see how to configure it. I went to the release note and found this: - Helicopter Trim Release Damper
- This is not a replacement of the in-game trim release functionality. It is a simple spring based dampening effect, identical to the one for MSFS.
- To configure, simply enable the effect and bind the same button that you have configured for TR in the sim. While the button is depressed, TelemFFB will add the dampening effect and will remove it when the button is released. The actual trimming and centering offset is still completely handled by DCS. Thanks again

CaptainNel•3/6/25, 11:20 AM

Yeah that’s the case for native DCS FFB, I don’t use it all I control all my FFB through TelemFFB. To set the spring, use override DCS spring. Then you get access to two more sliders, spring gain and then a separate trim damper slider too, as well as binds for FT release, FT re-centre and a 4 way trim hat

VPforceBot•3/6/25, 12:21 PM

:package:

RHINO #0939 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•3/6/25, 12:21 PM

:package:

RHINO #0940 Has Shipped!

EEagle1 Hi all, I just got my Rhino up and running, and everything works fine, but telem...

eivissa•3/7/25, 9:34 AM

I've got the same issue with Loopback not saving the selection. I am using the PumaX as a Button/Hat Source but on every reloading of the tool it defaults back to the Rhino. Also after a certain time flying the HPG H145 in FS2020 the Loopback tool crashes, but in the process it also kills the PumaX driver. You instantly notice this as only the stick lat/long axis (Rhino) work and everything else is dead. Any ideas?

Eeivissa I've got the same issue with Loopback not saving the selection. I am using the P...

Youtch•3/7/25, 1:00 PM

I also have the same issue with Loopback no saving the selection, even with the last version.

VPforceBot•3/7/25, 1:00 PM

:package:

RHINO #0941 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•3/7/25, 1:00 PM

:package:

RHINO #0942 Has Shipped!

CCaptainNel Yeah that’s the case for native DCS FFB, I don’t use it all I control all my FFB...

Youtch•3/7/25, 1:03 PM

I am not sure how the effect of Trim Release Damper is supposed to feel. Do you need to have also some higher Damper Gain selected in order for to work? Because Force Trim is working in the game, but I cannot feel any difference, which point to me having probably miss something in the configuration somewhere. Thanks again.

YYoutch I am not sure how the effect of Trim Release Damper is supposed to feel. Do you ...

CaptainNel•3/7/25, 1:49 PM

I’m not near my PC for the next few days or so apologies.

With a higher damper force and master gain turned up in VPConfig, the faster you move the cyclic the higher the force opposing it becomes. It simulates hydraulics quite well tbf.

CaptainNel•3/7/25, 1:50 PM

Have you got a screenshot of your VPConfig?

CCaptainNel Have you got a screenshot of your VPConfig?

Youtch•3/7/25, 3:34 PM

Here it goes. Many thanks again.

CaptainNel•3/7/25, 3:36 PM

Do you have the two pots wired up?

CaptainNel•3/7/25, 3:37 PM

You have global damper set at 8% and global spring set at 0%

CaptainNel•3/7/25, 3:37 PM

Personally I have spring at 100 and tune it per module, and damper at 70 and again tune it

CaptainNel•3/7/25, 3:39 PM

Are you using the newest version of telem? I don’t recognise the override configurator slider option you have there

YYoutch I am not sure how the effect of Trim Release Damper is supposed to feel. Do you ...

Number481•3/7/25, 3:56 PM

Trim release damper is a spring based effect. When you press TR and the game spring goes to 0, TelemFFB starts a temporary spring effect that feeds the center position back into itself that results in a damping feeling. It’s a different sensation than straight damper effect would be.

When you release TR, TelemFFB stops the effect and hands the spring back to the game.

CCaptainNel You have global damper set at 8% and global spring set at 0%

Youtch•3/7/25, 4:01 PM

Pots are not wired at all so only the values on the screenshots are applied. I am using Release 20250101 which I believe is the latest. Now I guess the problem of me not feeling the effect was because I had spring gain to 0.

CaptainNel•3/7/25, 4:04 PM

Yeah that’s a likely culprit, give it a whirl and see how it goes

CaptainNel•3/7/25, 4:04 PM

I’d also turn up damper slightly

CCaptainNel I’d also turn up damper slightly

Youtch•3/7/25, 5:59 PM

First of all thank you both CaptainNel and Number481 for your help with this. I wish the manual was up-to-date, and this function explained better. I changed the Spring to 40% and the Damper to 15%, and now I can feel the effect. Whenever I push Trim Release I can move the Cyclic freely, when i push force trim, it creates a "new center" with some "spring effect" recentering the stick around this "new center", then if I push Trim Release the artificial center disappear and I can move again freely. Now the big problem I have is that when I push the Force Trim button, it does not create the new center at the exact same point the cyclic is when I push Pilot Timmer/Trim, it seems to put it at some arbitrary point instead, and not immediately. Is it supposed to be one single push or continuous push and release? I am suspecting some conflict between the Pilot Trimmer button defined in DCS and the Trim button defined in VPForce Configurator, are we supposed to configure it in both?.

YYoutch First of all thank you both CaptainNel and Number481 for your help with this. I ...

CaptainNel•3/7/25, 6:09 PM

As far as I know, it varies. What I would suggest is unbinding the DCS native keybinds and control trim through telemffb so you have no conflicts

CaptainNel•3/7/25, 6:10 PM

The DCS binds are a method to replicate a trim system without FFB and hardware position gold

Reed•3/7/25, 6:12 PM

I haver used the tlelffb trim solution in the past, but have swapped over to dcs implementation as each supported airframe feels different. The 60 and still use the teleffb solution. works well for me. havetn had any issues.

CaptainNel•3/7/25, 6:16 PM

I use telemffb because everything feels the same

I prefer things to feel the same but I don’t really have anyt of the effects turned on or that it’s literally just for force trim ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

CaptainNel•3/7/25, 6:16 PM

Ya like what ya like

CCaptainNel I use telemffb because everything feels the same 😂 I prefer things to feel the ...

Youtch•3/7/25, 6:23 PM

Is there any use to the Trim button defined in VPForceConfigurator? The problem with TelemFFB is that it does not force trim the position of the pedals, does it?

CaptainNel•3/7/25, 6:28 PM

I personally have those off

CaptainNel•3/7/25, 6:28 PM

And no it doesn’t, that’s an issue I haven’t considered as mines are diy and springless tbf

CaptainNel•3/7/25, 6:29 PM

Most modules have a pedal trimmer

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Reed•3/7/25, 9:29 PM

The two cut outs on the lateral sides of each metal foot rest look interesting almost like you could put a switch in there that could be depressed when you put your feet on the pedals almost like for a trim release for petals or PTT

Boggy•3/8/25, 1:04 PM

Anybody here flying the T-45 or Hawk T1 in MSFS2020? The Rhino feels so limp on the ground and at slow speed. It seems that TelemFFB isn't recognising the module and can't set any sensible settings. Any ideas how to fix this?

CCaptainNel I personally have those off

Youtch•3/8/25, 5:27 PM

What do you have off exactly? The Force Trim in VPForce Configurator? VPForce Configurator Trim works well for me, but then it offset the center for the curves defined in DCS, which is not good, so I rather use the implementation of DCS, although I cannot get it to work properly anylonger

CaptainNel•3/8/25, 5:29 PM

I don’t have anything bound to the native DCS trims

CaptainNel•3/8/25, 5:29 PM

I Only use Telemffb

CaptainNel•3/8/25, 5:30 PM

Not the VPForce configurator

CaptainNel•3/8/25, 5:30 PM

Granted you need a pedal trim too but I’m not sure how you’d work around that as it’s not a feature I use

CaptainNel•3/8/25, 5:30 PM

The only trim buttons I have bound are in telemffb

CCaptainNel Not the VPForce configurator

Youtch•3/8/25, 5:32 PM

So, you left all the values related to Force Trim under effects tab in VPForce Configurator blank. And the Trimmer Mode in DCS Special option set to DEFAULT.

CaptainNel•3/8/25, 5:38 PM

Yup. Dcs trimmer mode is default, nothing in DCS is bound for trims, VPConfig hardware trim is off, TwlemFFB I use override DCS spring and the trim release binds in the dropdown in that tab

CCaptainNel Yup. Dcs trimmer mode is default, nothing in DCS is bound for trims, VPConfig ha...

Youtch•3/8/25, 5:40 PM

When I do that I get a message that Override DCS Spring is not compatible with Trim Release Damper, and I need to select one or another

CaptainNel•3/8/25, 5:40 PM

Yeah don’t use the standalone trim damper

CaptainNel•3/8/25, 5:40 PM

There’s another trim damper option under the override DCS spring option

CaptainNel•3/8/25, 5:41 PM

Use that one

CCaptainNel There’s another trim damper option under the override DCS spring option

Youtch•3/8/25, 5:41 PM

This was the trick!

Recently got an email telling me my preorder was almost ready, wasn’t expecting it nearly this early

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