Cloudflare Developers•10mo ago

if you stay away from remix what do you use in prod?

Ssumit if you stay away from remix what do you use in prod?

Isaac McFadyen•3/12/25, 10:55 PM

SvelteKit and Astro mainly.

Isaac McFadyen•3/12/25, 10:55 PM

I don't like React much either, only use it when I need to.

sumitOP•3/12/25, 10:58 PM

oh okay

matt•3/13/25, 2:49 AM

can a worker connect to a postgres server running in a tailscale network?

Erisa•3/13/25, 4:37 AM

workers have no special way of connecting to tailscale, youd have to expose it to the internet somehow
probably smth like https://developers.cloudflare.com/hyperdrive/configuration/connect-to-private-database/

Cloudflare Docs

Connect to a private database using Tunnel · Hyperdrive

Hyperdrive can securely connect to your private databases using Cloudflare Tunnel and Cloudflare Access.

matt•3/13/25, 5:10 AM

thanks @Erisa - i imagine this should be fairly secure too, given that a tunnel will not allow non-http connections, whereas hyperdrive must have been provided with an exemption

Erisa•3/13/25, 5:11 AM

non-http is possible as long as there's an agent on the other side proxying it back again, hyperdrive has that built in to the service

Erisa•3/13/25, 5:11 AM

and it's secure yes

Ashley•3/13/25, 8:59 AM

Just wanted to say thank you to whoever changed Email Workers to be able to reply to threaded emails, it’s such a huge improvement

esselungo•3/13/25, 10:24 AM

anybody willing to help for the conversation in crazy spikes of CPU time. how to troubleshoot?

kjanoudi•3/13/25, 11:16 AM

can anyone let me know the pricing structure for the browser rendering workers binding APIs

Kkjanoudi can anyone let me know the pricing structure for the browser rendering workers b...

Ashley•3/13/25, 1:01 PM

It’s free on the Workers Paid plan (not available on the free plan)

/dev/pug0•3/13/25, 1:37 PM

why does something like

            const { readable, writable } = new TransformStream();

            // Start pumping the body. NOTE: No await!
            sourceResponse.body.pipeTo(writable, {preventClose: true});

            return new Response(readable, {....})

            const { readable, writable } = new TransformStream();

            // Start pumping the body. NOTE: No await!
            sourceResponse.body.pipeTo(writable, {preventClose: true});

            return new Response(readable, {....})

in a workers fetch() cause the worker to exceed cpu time limit?

although it could also be memory too, since the file cuts out around the 128mb mark
when using sourceResponse.bodysourceResponse.body no such issues occur, so i assume tis something with the pipe?

AAshley Just wanted to say thank you to whoever changed Email Workers to be able to repl...

Seekerdasbatatas•3/13/25, 1:45 PM

you're welcome

let us know if something breaks

Evorage•3/13/25, 2:34 PM

as opposed to what?!?

SSilvan or well jquery if you need that much trust

RobbBoss•3/13/25, 2:35 PM

trust and jquery in the same sentence

please don't use jquery. I haven't heard a use case in 10 years. Wordpress is to blame for it's continued existence, I'm sure.

IIsaac McFadyen I don't like React much either, only use it when I need to.

RobbBoss•3/13/25, 2:36 PM

I agree with this, adding the caveat that I never need to. Even Astro's implicit embracing of React is troublesome for me.

RRobbBoss trust and jquery in the same sentence 😂 please don't use jquery. I haven't hear...

Silvan•3/13/25, 2:37 PM

i was being sarcastic

EEvorage as opposed to what?!? 😂

Hello, I’m Allie!•3/13/25, 2:37 PM

Region: Moon, coming :soontm: /j

HHello, I’m Allie!Region: Moon, coming :soontm: /j

Silvan•3/13/25, 2:38 PM

as long as it isnt mars

SSilvan i was being sarcastic

RobbBoss•3/13/25, 2:38 PM

I gathered. Sorry if it seemed otherwise.

RRobbBoss I agree with this, adding the caveat that I never need to. Even Astro's implicit...

Isaac McFadyen•3/13/25, 2:38 PM

My "need to" is primarily when a specific (often non-web) application requires me to. For example, the other day I wrote a custom extension for Raycast (https://www.raycast.com/) and they require React.

HHello, I’m Allie!Region: Moon, coming :soontm: /j

Chaika•3/13/25, 2:38 PM

Deployed to the Milky way galaxy

Isaac McFadyen•3/13/25, 2:38 PM

I definitely never use it for web if I can :lul:

Silvan•3/13/25, 2:39 PM

but muh vdom muh “use server”

CChaika Deployed to the Milky way galaxy

Hello, I’m Allie!•3/13/25, 2:39 PM

You are thinking too small. We will weave CF into the fabric of the universe, so you can run Workers on every electron

Silvan•3/13/25, 2:39 PM

whats the atom limit of a single worker instance?

SSilvan whats the atom limit of a single worker instance?

Hello, I’m Allie!•3/13/25, 2:40 PM

Infinite

IIsaac McFadyen My "need to" is primarily when a specific (often non-web) application requires m...

RobbBoss•3/13/25, 2:40 PM

Ah, I was in this scenario with Tina CMS and decided that since they didn't make it easy to write a webcomponent to replace their react component, I abandonded that CMS option. It's frustrating when devs pigeonhole us into React, but that's a fair use case. It's so cumbersome how it literally invites facebook into your entire codebase.

Silvan•3/13/25, 2:40 PM

i have not had a single good experience with a cms ever i cant lie

RobbBoss•3/13/25, 2:41 PM

Drupal 5 and 6 were awesome. long ago.

SSilvan i have not had a single good experience with a cms ever i cant lie

Hello, I’m Allie!•3/13/25, 2:41 PM

This is why a CMS should just be a folder of markdown

HHello, I’m Allie!This is why a CMS should just be a folder of markdown

Silvan•3/13/25, 2:41 PM

yep unironically

Hello, I’m Allie!•3/13/25, 2:41 PM

But also, #off-topic (definitely also me doing it)

Silvan•3/13/25, 2:42 PM

workers + r2 perfect cms

Evorage•3/13/25, 2:42 PM

is pages really dead? should I avoid it for future projects?
Deployment Failed... Why?

HHello, I’m Allie!This is why a CMS should just be a folder of markdown

RobbBoss•3/13/25, 2:43 PM

Bringing it back on-topic, this is how I wound up at Astro on Workers forever ago. I basically had been building a KV CMS and then Astro fit the bill on workers/pages

Tincan•3/13/25, 2:43 PM

hi guys, i used to use this command "npx wrangler pages dev -- yarn dev" but its being deprecated and has started having resource locked errors.

New command might be something like "npx wrangler pages dev .output/public --live-reload" but this isn't ideal as I still have to run yarn generate after changes to templates in my nuxt project, as output/plublic is not automatically updated when templates change. This is hugely slowed down workflow so I'm wondeing what the better approach is

EEvorage is pages really dead? should I avoid it for future projects? https://discord.com...

Isaac McFadyen•3/13/25, 2:46 PM

I'll refer you to this, but TLDR: not officially but kinda. workers-and-pages-discussions

Isaac McFadyen•3/13/25, 2:47 PM

Workers Assets is the recommended way going forward.

Evorage•3/13/25, 2:48 PM

thank you, it might beneficial to have a message on the dash when creating a pages project

Silvan•3/13/25, 2:49 PM

well it will still work for ages thats why they dont want to do that i think

Isaac McFadyen•3/13/25, 2:49 PM

Yeah that's mainly why I said it's not "officially" deprecated; it's still usable, but likely won't receive any new improvements.

Evorage•3/13/25, 2:51 PM

sort of "end of life"

Silvan•3/13/25, 2:54 PM

theres barely any features missing other than preview links for branches anyway

SSilvan well it will still work for ages thats why they dont want to do that i think

RobbBoss•3/13/25, 3:07 PM

I've given this a lot of thought, because I personally just lost a bunch of time due to the fact that we weren't looking in the /Public directory... and you just saved our butts, by the way.
Just the fact that building new products on it would be a bad idea (tm) is enough to warrant some kind of deprecation notice.

I said somewhere else, Python was deprecating Python 2 for over 10 years. It was important to make the notice, even if support would continue for a long time.

IIsaac McFadyen Yeah that's mainly why I said it's not "officially" deprecated; it's still usabl...

RobbBoss•3/13/25, 3:08 PM

This unofficial deprecation is equivalent to uncertainty in the platform and that is bad.

Silvan•3/13/25, 3:09 PM

I think a recommendation would be enough. but its a beta.

my guess? static assets stable with the next dev week

RobbBoss•3/13/25, 3:10 PM

Yeah, realizing that Workers Assets is still beta, I'm guessing that is why there has not been much notice. But they went ahead and recategorized everything and began name changes, and changing the menu around is kind of a hugely alarming notice to almost every user that things are changing, and without canonical word, that is uncertainty and is patently bad.

const { readable, writable } = new TransformStream(); // Start pumping the body. NOTE: No await! sourceResponse.body.pipeTo(writable, {preventClose: true}); return new Response(readable, {....})

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