Arctis 7 nova randomly don't work in steam game mode (desktop is fine)

So bit of a strange issue, but randomly my new arctis 7 Nova I just got don't work in steam game mode, meaning no audio in games or steam

I can switch the output to the tv speakers and everything works fine so this is different from my other issue where steam (and by extension any game ran in game mode) was muted

Booting into KDE works fine

Now the weird part is it's random sometimes reboot the PC fixes the issue
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